HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don't see how getting Laine for Anderson really helps anything... I don't love the Anderson contract obviously, but he has way less red flags. It's not like we need the cap space right away...

We will see but I get the feeling Columbus is not dealing from a position of strength... I doubt the demand is very high for Laine..

Under that scenario you’re hoping Laine can fill in some on the top six. With him coming off injury I’d see it as a depth move.

Anderson I think needs a change of scenery. He’s not really doing much for us and we really wouldn’t miss him.

 

[Rapala]

You nailed it. People making up why he was in the assistance program is BS.

Yeah I'm fairly certain he was admitted for a hangnail.
To be fair there are a limited number of issues that could possibly land him there.
None of them are ideal for a Professional Hockey Player.

 

[DAChampion]

Yeah I'm fairly certain he was admitted for a hangnail.
To be fair there are a limited number of issues that could possibly land him there.
None of them are ideal for a Professional Hockey Player.

IMO, if a player lands in the player assistance program it does not mean that the player should be avoided at all costs.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Yeah I'm fairly certain he was admitted for a hangnail.
To be fair there are a limited number of issues that could possibly land him there.
None of them are ideal for a Professional Hockey Player.

You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about and you're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

IMO, if a player lands in the player assistance program it does not mean that the player should be avoided at all costs.

Agreed.

But it should also be taken into consideration. Esp when you're in a market like Montreal.

 

[ericd]

Laine for Anderson and Savard

 

[Rapala]

You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about and you're embarrassing yourself.

Yeah right.
He was in the program because his team mates were mean to him.

Mental health and or addiction/dependancy of some sort.
You go ahead and name all the other issues that land and have landed players there since it's inception.

Give me a f***ing break

 

[Rapala]

IMO, if a player lands in the player assistance program it does not mean that the player should be avoided at all costs.

I agree but I also believe that working in a high stress environment isn't ideal.
He'd do well to get on some solid footing.

Personally I don't think there is a huge interest on our side.
People are acting like it's a do or die situation and he's the only player available.

When did the last highly publicized trade demand end up in Montreal.
I expect the unexpected from HuGo and if we do make a deal it's under everyone's radar.

 

[Habby4Life]

Yeah I'm fairly certain he was admitted for a hangnail.
To be fair there are a limited number of issues that could possibly land him there.
None of them are ideal for a Professional Hockey Player.

People are overreacting, what no team should touch him cause he got help, so what. Questioning his mental state is all bullshit. In fact, saying I having a problem and getting help says a lot about his mental toughness, not an easy thing to do these days.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Would you do:
To MTL: Laine (at least 1.2M retained)
To CLB: Anderson + Barron/Struble + 2025 Florida 1st.

We get Laine AND lose Anderson.
Columbus gets a 1st, plus a young dman. Hughes just turned a late 1st and a 2nd into Hage. I think he could do a lot with that pick, and the surplus 2nds we'll have from trading Savard, Armia, and Dvo at the TDL. I don't want to lose that pick. But I do want to try out Laine and lose Anderson's cap hit.

I wouldn't.

Makes no sense to give up valuable assets like Struble or that 2025 CAL/FLO 1st to get rid of Anderson at this point.
They don't need the cap space now and they likely won't need it next year either.
The longer they keep him, the easier and less costly it will be to get rid of his contract, if they want to.

And who would you replace Anderson with at this point of the offseason? Condotta? Heineman?
I doubt those guys are capable of scoring 20 goals in the NHL.

 

[Habby4Life]

You don't have a clue as to what you're talking about and you're embarrassing yourself.

How many guys in the nhl have an issue and are not seeking help, lots.

Guys like him are talking out their arse.

 

[26Mats]

I wouldn't.

Makes no sense to give up valuable assets like Struble or that 2025 CAL/FLO 1st to get rid of Anderson at this point.
They don't need the cap space now and they likely won't need it next year either.
The longer they keep him, the easier and less costly it will be to get rid of his contract, if they want to.

And who would you replace Anderson with at this point of the offseason? Condotta? Heineman?
I doubt those guys are capable of scoring 20 goals in the NHL.

Huh? Who could replace Anderson? Hopefully Laine.

 

[The Real Timo]

Huh? Who could replace Anderson? Hopefully Laine.

Nobody can replace

 

[ReHabs]

And who would you replace Anderson with at this point of the offseason?

A forward who can’t play the system and doesn’t forecheck and can’t handle a pass… oh dear, oh my, how on earth could we replace him.

 

[DAChampion]

I agree but I also believe that working in a high stress environment isn't ideal.
He'd do well to get on some solid footing.

I think that a lot of posters on here who lack life experience exaggerate how unique the Montreal market is.

Back when Jagr was a free agent, some people said he would sign here because Montreal has a casino (I'm serious). What those posters didn't realize is that they also have casinos in other markets.

Similarly here, some may think that Montreal is unique in making drugs, alcohol, clubbing, etc available to good looking millionaire athletes. It's not.

 

[Deus ex machina]

Huh? Who could replace Anderson? Hopefully Laine.

On the bottom 6.
Laine would fill the hole on the 2nd line.

That bottom 6 is already too small.

A forward who can’t play the system and doesn’t forecheck and can’t handle a pass… oh dear, oh my, how on earth could we replace him.

Who then?

 

[bsl]

1- He did not played more than 56 games in a season for the past 4 years.
2- He put up 141pts in 175 games, averaging a 66pts season
3- 66 goals in those 175 games, averaging 30 goals per season

Let's stop overselling him.

He's a good player when healthy no doubt,but I think Caufield is and will be a better goal scorer than him and I think Slafkovsky sill be a better player and I also think Demidov will be a ahead of him.

If his contract was on the last year...then maybe.

That's 3 wingers I place ahead of him and if one other make his case in the next 12 months, then he's a bottom 6 players and the last thing we need is another highely paid bottom 6 players so that's why they only way this could make sense is Anderson going the other way.

Let's not rush things, we have assets, we have trade capital and we have cap space but I think there will be better opportunity out there that would make more sense.

This is a no brainer. Laine upside is huge. If he feels comfortable and supported he could kill it. Downside? Sure. Not much.

 

[bsl]

Except you’re imagining the Laine of 2018-19. That’s a long time ago.

He’s 26 lol.

 

[Rapala]

People are overreacting, what no team should touch home cause he got help, so what. Questioning his mental state is all bullshit.

Laine was very open and candid about his mental health struggles there is no bullshit.
I've simply pointed out that recovery is not guaranteed and the numbers are out there.

Laine could be perfectly fine for now but he still isn't a player I would go after for a number of reasons.
He's getting paid more but isn't better than our Captain.
On top of that he's only managed to play 175 of 328 games in his past four seasons.
Laine has also had trouble fitting in with the two organizations he's played for whatever the reasons
.
I'd much rather find an individual with fewer or no flags at all.
This is not a low risk acquisition from my standpoint.

 

[26Mats]

On the bottom 6.
Laine would fill the hole on the 2nd line.

That bottom 6 is already too small.


Who then?

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Roy - Dach - Laine
Gallagher - Newhook - Armia (did great in 2023-24)
Pez - Evan's - Dvo

 

[vokiel]

Blender trade:

To MTL: Scott Mayfield, NYI 1st rounder
To CLB: Jordan Harris, MTL 4th, NYI 3rd
To NYI: Patrik Laine, William Trudeau

 

[bsl]

One more would be nice going forward. Honestly though, the top six we have going into this year is pretty good and next year we’ll add Demidov to it.

One more would mean Roy and Newhook go to the third giving us great depth.

Why are they in trouble? We are not expecting the playoffs anyway.

Dach and Newhook should be good for at least 50 each. Roy should get 40. That’s fine for a second line. The top six is pretty decent as is.

But we don’t really have much scoring depth beyond it. Demidov will help next year.

I want to see dach play 70 games this year. I don’t even count him in the top 6 right now.

 

[Habby4Life]

I want to see dach play 70 games this year. I don’t even count him in the top 6 right now.

No doubt, dude is this teams version of fragile Benoit Brunet.

 

[ReHabs]

Who then?

Don’t you think this is easily resolved?

I want to see dach play 70 games this year. I don’t even count him in the top 6 right now.

No no — you see, Dach is over his injury issues. Laine is an injury doubt. Dach is good for 60+ points (even though he’s only produced next to Suzuki) but Laine is simply an unknown entity at this point.

 

[bsl]

We have Joshua Roy. We don’t need Laine, or McGroarty, or Zegras, or Necas, or any other stinkin’ forward. We can’t disturb Joshua Roy’s path to greatness. He could maybe one day if the stars align get over 50 points.

This is how good teams operate, after all.

Roy is totally meh to me. Not big. Not fast. Like. Meh. And lot have him in the top six. lol.