HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[HuGort]

Spectacular haul, especially if Demidov is gone. Would be interesting to see what other trades are feasible right after that, with a subset of those players and some of the excess LDs, while keeping Philly's first rounder.

At 5 they be getting defenseman whose floor is #1 D, ceiling franchise defenseman.

 

[therocket9]

We don't know who's the roster player, and I personally don't have Lindstrom top 10 because of injury risk.

Only way I'd say no is if Demidov is still there (I think he won't be).


I'd trade down max to #12.

I have #3-12 almost in the same tier.

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Dickinson
4. Buium
5. Levshunov
6. Iginla
7. Connolly
8. Yakemchuk
9. Sennecke
10. Eiserman

HM: Parekh, Catton

Where is Lindstrom.

 

[Michoulicious]

Where is Lindstrom.

Not there, DND in that range because of the back for me... Probably at 13-15 the drop in talent would make the risk worth it.

 

[ML16]

Matheson is worth more than a late first as he is on a great contract and will be very good for the next 3-5 years. He is worth more than a Monahan rental which netted us a late first. He absolutely is a 1st pairing dman (annoying designation), maybe not a true #1 on a contender but certainly playing second string to such a defender as his partner.

The only dman who is even comparable as a skater is Makar and Matheson is bigger and more physical. He is an absolutely elite skater and PMD and it would undoubtedly take more than a late 1st to acquire him and his team friendly contract. Every single team in the NHL would want him and the bidding would easily net us two premium assets if not more.

Throwing in Beck who is likely worth a mid first rounder and the 26th overall pick is just horrendous asset management when the return is an 18 year old sixth overall pick who could easily flop.

Hard to decide which of Matheson’s, Beck’s or #26 OA’s value you overestimate the most here… Mentioning Matheson and Makar in the same sentence is heresy; the former is a second pairing D at best on a good team. Beck has yet to significantly raise his value from his original draft position (#33 OA) and a late first is meh.

Basically, if such an underwhelming package (second pairing D; bottom/middle-6 C prospect and a late 1st) is all it would take to pry away a #6 OA pick, it would happen yearly.

 

[sampollock]

no leaks or speculations from anybody

 

[morhilane]

no leaks or speculations from anybody

They are all at the slot machines drinking margaritas.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Wtf are the Caps doing

Blew 15M and they are still dog shit

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Far from spectacular, lol. I bet it’s Colorado’s first and it would depend on roster player.

Agreed. Spectacular if Philly's first rounder and the roster player mentioned in the post: Farabee. And as mentioned, if Demidov is gone.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

At 5 they be getting defenseman whose floor is #1 D, ceiling franchise defenseman.

If the Philly's first rounder 2025 is theirs, that would be available then too, while a top D will still be there at 12 and also getting Farabee, as in the original post. If Demidov is gone.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Not there, DND in that range because of the back for me... Probably at 13-15 the drop in talent would make the risk worth it.

Michou, remembering that you are a physician, what do you think of the stem cell therapy that I brought up earlier? Can they reconstruct something that approaches an unherniated disc? It seems available in the US already. This would be some player, with a normal spine... Might actually suggest this treatment preemptively.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Washington's spree is reminding me of Montreal's in '09 but I bet they don't even get a conference final out of it.

 

[Ezpz]

If Florida are dumping ekblad for cheap that could be a good reclamation project for us. We're weak as hell at RD. He was still Florida's #1 d at ES. Big upgrade on savard/kovacevic. If he rebounds an extension isn't out of the question as he's only 28.

 

[Saundies]

If Florida are dumping ekblad for cheap that could be a good reclamation project for us. We're weak as hell at RD. He was still Florida's #1 d at ES. Big upgrade on savard/kovacevic. If he rebounds an extension isn't out of the question as he's only 28.

He'd fit in really well here because he's always injured!

 

[The Great Weal]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806495663980679360

Makes sense. Utah should be interested.

 

[BLONG7]

no leaks or speculations from anybody

These guys are tight tight tight.......

 

[Michoulicious]

Michou, remembering that you are a physician, what do you think of the stem cell therapy that I brought up earlier? Can they reconstruct something that approaches an unherniated disc? It seems available in the US already. This would be some player, with a normal spine... Might actually suggest this treatment preemptively.

I am an ER physician, so unfortunately can't chime in on those emergent therapies... I have not seen yet any patient that benefited from a reconstructed organ/tissues from stem cell research in my practice, but I can't guarantee it does not exists! For herniated discs, most of the time people get conservative treatments (physio, painkillers, infiltrations, etc.) or spinal fusions if the go with surgeries, but I heard of artificial disks (like Eichel for his neck), which are still pretty uncommon.

 

[The Great Weal]

Saros extended. Really not sure what Nashville is doing, can’t commit to a direction. Also not sure how Askarov will get a chance as the starter anytime soon.

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

I am an ER physician, so unfortunately can't chime in on those emergent therapies... I have not seen yet any patient that benefited from a reconstructed organ/tissues from stem cell research in my practice, but I can't guarantee it does not exists! For herniated discs, most of the time people get conservative treatments (physio, painkillers, infiltrations, etc.) or spinal fusions if the go with surgeries, but I heard of artificial disks (like Eichel for his neck), which are still pretty uncommon.

I cited an NC practice earlier that specializes in stem cell treatment, so maybe it's possible now to rebuild the annulus fibrosus. Seems farfetched, but that's the current landscape, especially in the US. Exciting times to work in healthcare. I already weighed in about artificial disc replacement, but this stem cell approach could be used preemptively. Get your spine ready for the season !

 

[HuGort]

If Florida are dumping ekblad for cheap that could be a good reclamation project for us. We're weak as hell at RD. He was still Florida's #1 d at ES. Big upgrade on savard/kovacevic. If he rebounds an extension isn't out of the question as he's only 28.

Or we could retain on him. Ekblad at 3.75 would bring us good return

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Or we could retain on him. Ekblad at 3.75 would bring us good return

No retention spots until the new season,so would have to wait a few days

 

[xposbrad]

I am an ER physician, so unfortunately can't chime in on those emergent therapies... I have not seen yet any patient that benefited from a reconstructed organ/tissues from stem cell research in my practice, but I can't guarantee it does not exists! For herniated discs, most of the time people get conservative treatments (physio, painkillers, infiltrations, etc.) or spinal fusions if the go with surgeries, but I heard of artificial disks (like Eichel for his neck), which are still pretty uncommon.

I did stem cells in NYC in April from fat tissue for my shoulders. No positive results.

 

[le_sean]

Love Fowler, but I want Askarov

 

[therocket9]

If Florida are dumping ekblad for cheap that could be a good reclamation project for us. We're weak as hell at RD. He was still Florida's #1 d at ES. Big upgrade on savard/kovacevic. If he rebounds an extension isn't out of the question as he's only 28.

Don't think Ekblad waives his NMC to play for a bottom 5 team.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Love Fowler, but I want Askarov

Monty and Askarov would be a solid young duo for many years!! Fowler is still 3 good years away anyway IMO

 

[Gravity]

Monty and Askarov would be a solid young duo for many years!!

Fowler and Askarov. Monty can get bent.