HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

[CHfan1]

Not sure where our cap room is next year, but hoping we can get Rantonen in FA. Not sure COL has that much cap room to go 12m a year for him. I know we need to extend Hutson and Slaf's overpaid contract starts next year, but does it look like we have 12m free next year?

If Rantanen somehow hits free agency on July 1st I think he’ll get offers of more than $14 million (which is the contract Draisaitl just got). When Panarin hit free agency in 2019 he got 14.29% of the cap with a $11.64 million deal (that was after a 28 goal 87 point season). This season the cap is expected to go up to, at least, $92.5 million and Rantanen is on pace for his 3rd consecutive 40 goal+, 100 point + season.

 

[salbutera]

If Rantanen somehow hits free agency on July 1st I think he’ll get offers of more than $14 million (which is the contract Draisaitl just got). When Panarin hit free agency in 2019 he got 14.29% of the cap with a $11.64 million deal (that was after a 28 goal 87 point season). This season the cap is expected to go up to, at least, $92.5 million and Rantanen is on pace for his 3rd consecutive 40 goal+, 100 point + season.

And at that level of $$, Rantanen will look to maximize take home..

 

[salbutera]

 

[RationalExpectations]

If Rantanen somehow hits free agency on July 1st I think he’ll get offers of more than $14 million (which is the contract Draisaitl just got). When Panarin hit free agency in 2019 he got 14.29% of the cap with a $11.64 million deal (that was after a 28 goal 87 point season). This season the cap is expected to go up to, at least, $92.5 million and Rantanen is on pace for his 3rd consecutive 40 goal+, 100 point + season.

I think ANA SJS will be better Positioned than MTL due to not having Gallagher Anderson Price contracts weighing them down and being in the US

 

[donghabs98]

Pettersson fits the Habs age window really well. Im not sure what Vancouver would want (Anderson or Gally probably needs to be included for the cap). But with our prospect and pick depth, Habs could put a nice bundle together.

 

[morhilane]

NYR is probably looking at Miller way more than EP. Yea he’s very talented (EP) but not sure it’s what any team need to get them to the next stage in the playoffs.

I saw rumors back in October about Drury trying to get Miller back to the Rangers. It's not a new interest.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Marcotte notes that 3 NHL GMs are at the Laval/Abbotsford game tonight (Dubas, Sweeney, and Armstrong). He says that he's never seen as many top executives at Place Bell.

Renaud Lavoie says that he believes they're more there to watch Abbotsford with all the trade chatter going on with the Canucks. And since the chatter involves significant players in Vancouver, the NHL GMs get more directly involved.

 

[ReHabs]

I see the Bruins making big overtures toward acquiring EP40 and securing their roster for the next ten years.

The Habs can acquire him too — there’s nothing stopping us. Only problem is figuring out his actual level. 70pts at 11.6m and little ‘intangibles’ is tough to swallow… 90pts is much more tolerable….

 

[EveryDay]

Marcotte notes that 3 NHL GMs are at the Laval/Abbotsford game tonight (Dubas, Sweeney, and Armstrong). He says that he's never seen as many top executives at Place Bell.

Renaud Lavoie says that he believes they're more there to watch Abbotsford with all the trade chatter going on with the Canucks. And since the chatter involves significant players in Vancouver, the NHL GMs get more directly involved.

Only player worth watching in Abbotsford are Lekkerimaki, Petersson and Kundriashev(?).

 

[1909]

Patterson-Lafreniere I'm betting

Zibanejad-Kreider ????

 

[General Fanager]

Marcotte notes that 3 NHL GMs are at the Laval/Abbotsford game tonight (Dubas, Sweeney, and Armstrong). He says that he's never seen as many top executives at Place Bell.

Renaud Lavoie says that he believes they're more there to watch Abbotsford with all the trade chatter going on with the Canucks. And since the chatter involves significant players in Vancouver, the NHL GMs get more directly involved.

Dubas îs obviously in Laval to scout cause he is trading Crosby to The Habs.

 

[vokiel]

Dubas îs obviously in Laval to scout cause he is trading Crosby to The Habs.....

Absolutely, and we're trading Reinbacher for Tij

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I see the Bruins making big overtures toward acquiring EP40 and securing their roster for the next ten years.

The Habs can acquire him too — there’s nothing stopping us. Only problem is figuring out his actual level. 70pts at 11.6m and little ‘intangibles’ is tough to swallow… 90pts is much more tolerable….

That won't secure the roster for the Bruins. They would have Petterson, pasternak and a pile of mediocre forwards. they would have to give up the bulk of their tradable assets or Pastrnak to get him

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Wonder what's going to happen with Engstrom. He's a legit prospect but don't have the space for him. Could be a big trade chip.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Dubas îs obviously in Laval to scout cause he is trading Crosby to The Habs.....

Farrell, Primeau and a 2nd?

 

[Miller Time]

I mentioned Laine because the same BS was said...

Lots of BS gets said, adding to the pile isn't a recipe for anything more than... More bs

Montreal is the last place for Laine to be (False). I believe some of you are at it again with EP.

Again with the Laine talk... It's irrelevant, move on.

Not worth it? Come on man. It's an opportunity because he is trending low.

Fools gold is fools gold. Don't think KH would make that kind of mistake.

If it was last year, you would laugh in people's face at the notion of trying to trade for him... with a untouchable narrative so don't try

What nonsense is this? If he had a year left, yes the risk would obviously be lower as far as the player goes... but the number of teams willing to bid would also be much higher... So again, it would come down to assessing the ROI.

But that fantasy scenario is irrelevant since we have an actual scenario to asses.

Since it's not a video game, the superficial assessment you've made is not very realistic. Pretty straightforward.

It's not "quite obvious" why he is a bad fit for Montreal. That is something you just made up

Nothing I made up.

Perhaps you aren't familiar with the well documented player, management and media acknowledgement of the unique scrutiny and pressure involved with playing hockey in Montreal

Or with the public commentary by EP & his current management re. his situation in Vancouver.

Either way, google is your friend if you'd like to look into it and better ground your posts

 

[Thomas Sowell]

I see the Bruins making big overtures toward acquiring EP40 and securing their roster for the next ten years.

The Habs can acquire him too — there’s nothing stopping us. Only problem is figuring out his actual level. 70pts at 11.6m and little ‘intangibles’ is tough to swallow… 90pts is much more tolerable….

Keep in mind he will be centering Laine and demidov. I think 70 pts is impossible lol. He will be above a point per game with those two.

 

[themilosh]

Doubt we even get a sniff at EP anyway. There's always someone willing to overpay.

Overpay is an optic. I've always been an advocate of overpaying if it lands legitimacy.. a Centre the calibre of EP, is worth shipping out pieces to make it happen.
I'd be willing to send CC + Beck for EP. It's gotta be something worthwhile, and always includes a sting.
But when a team has a chance to acquire a legit 1/2C you must act accordingly.

 

[austin316]

I’d be looking to move on from Slaf this offseason if there is a fit with someone else. Approaching 200 games played in the NHL now and he’s clearly not a difference maker.

Time to move on and admit our mistake and recover some assets while we still can.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I’d be looking to move on from Slaf this offseason if there is a fit with someone else. Approaching 200 games played in the NHL now and he’s clearly not a difference maker.

Time to move on and admit our mistake and recover some assets while we still can.

Ridiculous. He is 20 years old. He probably needs 2-3 years to reach his full potential. If he is going to not show up now that he has been paid then there is no point watching the Habs. Because that means HuGo can't evaluate character so the team will never go anywhere

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I see the Bruins making big overtures toward acquiring EP40 and securing their roster for the next ten years.

The Habs can acquire him too — there’s nothing stopping us. Only problem is figuring out his actual level. 70pts at 11.6m and little ‘intangibles’ is tough to swallow… 90pts is much more tolerable….

Pettersson is just Swedish. Miller is a mouthy American. I'm not so concerned about Petey's intangibles as I am his knee problems.

However, that is alleviated somewhat by the knowledge that Pettersson played his best hockey when Miller was out.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Canucks have always been interested in Lafreniere. I think they employ his former agent or something?

He's not a center, though. Vancouver needs centers & top 4Ds. Something that NYR don't have - at least ones that also don't have trade protection.

Boston could do it if they offer Lindholm (C), Carlo & Poitras.

 

[General Fanager]

Absolutely, and we're trading Reinbacher for Tij

you mean Tij ++

 

[General Fanager]

I see the Bruins making big overtures toward acquiring EP40 and securing their roster for the next ten years.

The Habs can acquire him too — there’s nothing stopping us. Only problem is figuring out his actual level. 70pts at 11.6m and little ‘intangibles’ is tough to swallow… 90pts is much more tolerable….

Im not sure Boston has the pieces necessary and as for The Habs, it would be cool but at what cost?

 

[General Fanager]

Offer Dach, Newhook, and Matheson with both our 1st's. Those are 3 quality NHL Players with Matheson in his prime and the other two as RFA assets still maturing. Dach/Newhook/Matheson = $11M. These 3 players have a shot at improving the Canucks and they get two solid 1st round darts to hit with.

Crazy offer but I would do it.

That's for EP?

He is a great player and is an upgrade at centre for sure but I suspect no matter how good he would be in a Habs uniform we would all be here dogging that cap hit and HuGo for taking it on.

I also think Van wouldn't want that deal. Seems like a quantity over quality thing to me. I bet they would want one of CC, Slaf or Demidov to start.