HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

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I saw Lavoie mentioning Olivier in Spanre’s post game show. He’d be a perfect fit for the Habs. Do they wait for him to become a UFA or do they try to land him sooner so they have a better shot at signing him?
wanted him in the off-season the he was an RFA...i don't see any reason why CB would let him walk. The league sees the value in the tough guys who can play. Sadly, I think he resigns there
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Frederic should be another target if he walks in the off-season.


free pezzetta!


next year:

slaf/cole/suzy
demidov/dach/laine
gally/evans/anderson
olivier/beck/tuch
 
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Obviously take a swing at the top free agents, if they make it there like Marner Shesh, Rants.

Not sure if Bennett is considered a top, or 2nd tied, but definitely go for him.

I'm assuming he's retiring, but if not I'd honestly sign Fleury. I'd tell him he doesn't have to play even as a full-time backup of 30ish games. I'd take those 30 and split them up as around 20 for him and 10 for Dobes.

If he retires I look at Freddy Andersen. Probably don't have to make the same deal as he's hurt quite often.

If neither, maybe look at Allen and do similar to Fleury.

Depends how Dobes does the rest of the year he might keep progressing well and look more ready for the backup spot than not.

Jamie Benn- More than likely takes a lot less and stays in Dallas, but would bring him in for some more toughness, leadership and so his pos plays aren't against the Habs.

John Tavares - slow as f***, but a menace in front of the net and a beast on the dot. Being a leaf fan probably takes a lot less to stay, or doesn't want to play for the Habs, but I'd be interested.

Aaron Ekblad - RHD, cup winner and has been solid lately in his career. Would fill a need with leadership, right d. Probably cost a lot thought and be a bad contract.

Neal Pionk- he's a bit of a p-unk, but he's another RHD with some bite but the issue is he's a smaller, puck moving dman.

Yannick Gourde - French dude, pest, energy player. Problem is he'll be 34 shortly after next season starts. His offense is trending down, older, so if he's good with 2 years and cheap, like maybe 3 mill max might be an option.

Brandon Tanev- like Gourde, energy player, but will be 34 next year in December, so it would need to be a short contract.

Anthony Mantha - if the Habs strike out everywhere, then sign him cheap. He was decent for the Flames to start the season. Now he's done for the year, so another 1 year, 1 mill contract.

Jordan Greenway - Would be a nice bottom 6 add. Would hope for him.

Luke Kunin - would be a nice 4th like addition.

Tanner Jeannot - would be a nice bottom 6 add.

Trent Fredric - would be a solid middle 6 add.

Nicolas Hague - I just want him because I wanted the Habs to draft him. There's no logical reason for him.

Nick Bjugstad - similar Hague, I wanted the Habs to get him, but he's good on the dot and a capable 4th liner if Evans leaves/is traded away.

Klim Kostin- pretty tough guy, good 4th line/13th forward. He's RFA, but I imagine he won't be getting a QO. Would be a Russian on the team, too.

Nathan Bastian - 4th line centre physical, but got worked by a dwarf in Lomberg.

Christian Fischer - if the Habs miss out on everyone and everything an ok 4th liner/13th forward.

Mathieu Olivier - A must sign. Probably the heavyweight in the league, good PKer and has skill to play.

Brett Leason - Nothing happens sign him and give him some top 6 minutes and see what happens. Though could be a decent bottom 6 player.

Drew O'Connor - give him some ice time and see what he can do potentially

Walker Duehr- sign for Laval, but he has good size and decent speed for a call up if need be

Julien Gauthier - good size and a nice shot, so a good player to play both leagues.

Wortherspoon and Arseneau re-signed.

Dylan McIlrath- if they can, sign him and that way Laval is more than covered for toughness. McIlrath can also be solid in a few games here and there in the NHL and be a solid contributor in the AHL, too.

Justin Brazeau - would sign him for the Habs, but I'm a home for him.

Justin Bailey - mostly AHLer with size and skill there and can cover for a call up here and there

Riley Tufte - like Bailey, but I'd be more willing to see him get a chance with decent NHL lineages and maybe some games to see what he can do.

Derrick Pouliot if Mailloux makes the Habs, or is traded.


Obviously not all of them, but there's some nice options to fill needs/replace players for the Habs in the off season..
 
Jiricek sure can be an interesting piece to bid on. I was high on him in his draft year. As his development stagnate that much ?
 
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Mathieu Olivier - A must sign. Probably the heavyweight in the league, good PKer and has skill to play.
The critical question is why would Olivier sign with Habs if he sees the treatment Xhekaj or Pezzetta get from Marty. It almost seems like MSL does not appreciate these kind of players.
 
If these guys went to market I’d be inquiring.


Jordan Greenway - 27yrs old
Brett Howden - 26yrs old
Justin Brazeau - 26yrs old
Mathieu Olivier - 27yrs old
Trent Frederic - 27yrs old

Nicklaus Perbix - 26yrs old
William Borgen - 27yrs old

I’d look at 3-4 year deals to bring them to 30-31yrs old whichever we could acquire. The two on defense Perbix and Borgen I’d want both.

Specifically to shore up the defense and have Reinbacher in the AHL, Mailloux and Barron competing and rotating that final spot on the right side. To ease them in.

Guhle Perbix
Hutson Borgen
Matheson Mailloux
Xhekaj Barron
Struble

This way allows the perfect amount of lefty righties. Adds size and mobility. Savard which has slowed down would be replaced.
 
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Obviously take a swing at the top free agents, if they make it there like Marner Shesh, Rants.

Not sure if Bennett is considered a top, or 2nd tied, but definitely go for him.

I'm assuming he's retiring, but if not I'd honestly sign Fleury. I'd tell him he doesn't have to play even as a full-time backup of 30ish games. I'd take those 30 and split them up as around 20 for him and 10 for Dobes.

If he retires I look at Freddy Andersen. Probably don't have to make the same deal as he's hurt quite often.

If neither, maybe look at Allen and do similar to Fleury.

Depends how Dobes does the rest of the year he might keep progressing well and look more ready for the backup spot than not.

Jamie Benn- More than likely takes a lot less and stays in Dallas, but would bring him in for some more toughness, leadership and so his pos plays aren't against the Habs.

John Tavares - slow as f***, but a menace in front of the net and a beast on the dot. Being a leaf fan probably takes a lot less to stay, or doesn't want to play for the Habs, but I'd be interested.

Aaron Ekblad - RHD, cup winner and has been solid lately in his career. Would fill a need with leadership, right d. Probably cost a lot thought and be a bad contract.

Neal Pionk- he's a bit of a p-unk, but he's another RHD with some bite but the issue is he's a smaller, puck moving dman.

Yannick Gourde - French dude, pest, energy player. Problem is he'll be 34 shortly after next season starts. His offense is trending down, older, so if he's good with 2 years and cheap, like maybe 3 mill max might be an option.

Brandon Tanev- like Gourde, energy player, but will be 34 next year in December, so it would need to be a short contract.

Anthony Mantha - if the Habs strike out everywhere, then sign him cheap. He was decent for the Flames to start the season. Now he's done for the year, so another 1 year, 1 mill contract.

Jordan Greenway - Would be a nice bottom 6 add. Would hope for him.

Luke Kunin - would be a nice 4th like addition.

Tanner Jeannot - would be a nice bottom 6 add.

Trent Fredric - would be a solid middle 6 add.

Nicolas Hague - I just want him because I wanted the Habs to draft him. There's no logical reason for him.

Nick Bjugstad - similar Hague, I wanted the Habs to get him, but he's good on the dot and a capable 4th liner if Evans leaves/is traded away.

Klim Kostin- pretty tough guy, good 4th line/13th forward. He's RFA, but I imagine he won't be getting a QO. Would be a Russian on the team, too.

Nathan Bastian - 4th line centre physical, but got worked by a dwarf in Lomberg.

Christian Fischer - if the Habs miss out on everyone and everything an ok 4th liner/13th forward.

Mathieu Olivier - A must sign. Probably the heavyweight in the league, good PKer and has skill to play.

Brett Leason - Nothing happens sign him and give him some top 6 minutes and see what happens. Though could be a decent bottom 6 player.

Drew O'Connor - give him some ice time and see what he can do potentially

Walker Duehr- sign for Laval, but he has good size and decent speed for a call up if need be

Julien Gauthier - good size and a nice shot, so a good player to play both leagues.

Wortherspoon and Arseneau re-signed.

Dylan McIlrath- if they can, sign him and that way Laval is more than covered for toughness. McIlrath can also be solid in a few games here and there in the NHL and be a solid contributor in the AHL, too.

Justin Brazeau - would sign him for the Habs, but I'm a home for him.

Justin Bailey - mostly AHLer with size and skill there and can cover for a call up here and there

Riley Tufte - like Bailey, but I'd be more willing to see him get a chance with decent NHL lineages and maybe some games to see what he can do.

Derrick Pouliot if Mailloux makes the Habs, or is traded.


Obviously not all of them, but there's some nice options to fill needs/replace players for the Habs in the off season..
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The critical question is why would Olivier sign with Habs if he sees the treatment Xhekaj or Pezzetta get from Marty. It almost seems like MSL does not appreciate these kind of players.

You mean when they get held accountable for their play? Xhekaj hasn't been removed from the line-up since he's come back in and played well.

Pezzetta is a hot-dog eater.

Olivier can play a regualr bottom 6 shift and kill penalties. He'd definitely play if we had him.
 
How much do we offer Olivier?

2,5M$ for 5 years?

5 years feels too much, but he's relatively young at 27 y.o . I am sure we can offer him something worth his while.

He's a Quartexx client and his agent is Phil Lecavalier. Surely they can field a competitive offer; plus he could get some sponsorship money like Xhekaj. It's time for Kent to do his tampering magic.​
 
How much do we offer Olivier?

2,5M$ for 5 years?
I'd start from the DLO deal (4 years at 1.7 IIRC) and bump it up just a bit for inflation. 2M for 4 years would look real good for that type of player and be really hard to refuse. You add whatever sponsorship a guy like him could get and he'd be making out like a freaking bandit.
 
I'd start from the DLO deal (4 years at 1.7 IIRC) and bump it up just a bit for inflation. 2M for 4 years would look real good for that type of player and be really hard to refuse. You add whatever sponsorship a guy like him could get and he'd be making out like a bandit.
Yeah I agree 4 years is better but at 2M$, I wouldn’t have a problem going for 5 years.

I think he should bring us what Anderson is bringing right now (+fighting) for half/third of the price.
 
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Yeah I agree 4 years is better but at 2M$, I wouldn’t have a problem going for 5 years.

I think he should bring us what Anderson is bringing right now (+fighting) for half/third of the price.
He'd probably sign with anyone who offers him 5 years, that might be more term than what he actually has left for his career. Bruisers like that don't go much longer after 30 historically.
 
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Obviously take a swing at the top free agents, if they make it there like Marner Shesh, Rants.

Obviously not all of them, but there's some nice options to fill needs/replace players for the Habs in the off season..
There are some early indications that the cap will increase quite a bit next year, around $9M or so.

That means there will be a lot of competition for the UFAs on the market, because teams that would otherwise be cap limited will be able to throw money away for a big score.

And here's the problem.. who will want to go to a rebuilding team ranked #32 in a highly taxed province? The premium to pay for a UFA in Montreal will be enormous.

Not sure 2025 would be the year to go hard on UFAs, and I would hate to see them demolish the whole salary structure for one or two hasbeens that are likely to compromise the years when it will matter.
 
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He'd probably sign with anyone who offers him 5 years, that might be more term than what he actually has left for his career. Bruisers like that don't go much longer after 30 historically.
I wouldn’t have a problem with giving him 5 years if it what it take. He’s still gonna be a tough guy at 33 and at 2n, it won’t hurt that much
 
Problem is....considering they want to add to what they already had, there's not a whole lot of interesting return for the Habs
Reid Schaefer would be one

Svechkov another and as mentioned, L'Heureux would be another. Joakim Kemmel and then whatever prospects they might have outside of the AHL.

Reid Schaefer would be a really nice piece to acquire that might be reasonable in a deal for Matheson
 
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