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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024-25 Season

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OldCraig71 said:
Would anyone entertain a trade offer for Brady Tkachuk that involved Slafkovsky? We are getting Demidov next year and adding a proven young veteran in BT would give this team a big shot in the arm. I like his combination of talent and pesky play, he sort of reminds of a young Corey Perry. I think he would be great come playoff time as well, no lack of confidence and doesn't get intimidated by the competition. If we had only chosen him instead of Kotkaniemi.
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No way Ottawa is.

Best bet would be Slaf for Byfield.
 
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Agree that without certainty you can re-sign Tkachuk after three years, you don't tradeforhim at this stage of the rebuild since MONTREAL will only make push for a long playoff push once his contract is up.

Suzuki's contract is up two years after Tkachuk's and caufield'scontractis up three years after the Ottawa player. Laine would needtobe re-upped after next season, two years before the end of Tkachuk's contract.

The staggering of all these contracts is good when trying to assemble a longer Cup window.

Trading Slafkovsky for Tkachuk would leave a potential lineup of:

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Hage - Laine
Heineman - Beck - Dach
Newhook - Evans - Roy
Anderson, Gallagher

At least, Anderson and Gallagher's contracts would be up whenTkachul's and demidov's contracts would need to be extended.

Keep in mind that the 2025 draft could land a surprise at C for the top-6 and change the look the future lineup:

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Demidov
Caufield - Misa - Laine
Heineman - Hage - Dach
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Anderson, Gallagher

Maybe we even spread out the scoring over the top-9 and roll out the lines to take away the coaching factor?

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Demidov
Heineman - Misa - Laine
Caufield - Hage - Dach
Newhook - Beck - Roy
Anderson, Gallagher

I'd personally love to see Montreal pick Carbonneau with a later 1st round pick:

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Demidov
Heineman - Misa - Laine
Caufield - Hage - Dach
Carbonneau - Beck - Roy
Newhook, Anderson, Gallagher

I think that, following a Slafkovsky for Tkachuk trade, and assuming we can draft Misa, by the time Anderson and Gallagher's contracts are up, the rebuild is pretty much over, with Montreal needing to have added a shutdown RHD to the mix on the UFA front:

Tkachuk - Suzuki - Demidov
Heineman - Misa - Laine
Caufield - Hage - Dach
Carbonneau - Beck - Roy

Hutson - UFA
Guhle - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux

Fowler
Montembeault
 
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
No way Ottawa is.

Best bet would be Slaf for Byfield.
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Ottawa totally should’ve traded Tkachuk at 20 years old, when he scored 44 points or when he scored 36 points in 56 games. Was totally destined to not be better.

Every team develop and let their young players mature, the habs needs to be different and trade them all before they’re even close to their peak!

But then would want to ‘’bet’’ on a player from another team that had a similar season at 21 that Slaf had as a 19 years old… doesn’t make much sense.
 
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SlafySZN said:
Ottawa totally should’ve traded Tkachuk at 20 years old, when he scored 44 points or when he scored 36 points in 56 games. Was totally destined to not be better.

Every team develop and let their young players mature, the habs needs to be different and trade them all before they’re even close to their peak!

But then would want to ‘’bet’’ on a player from another team that had a similar season at 21 that Slaf had as a 19 years old… doesn’t make much sense.
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Agreed except that some teams don't let their prospects develop. Rangers, Colorado. Nashville etc.
 
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OldCraig71 said:
Would anyone entertain a trade offer for Brady Tkachuk that involved Slafkovsky? We are getting Demidov next year and adding a proven young veteran in BT would give this team a big shot in the arm. I like his combination of talent and pesky play, he sort of reminds of a young Corey Perry. I think he would be great come playoff time as well, no lack of confidence and doesn't get intimidated by the competition. If we had only chosen him instead of Kotkaniemi.
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Tkachuk is gawd awful defensively. This guy dogs it defensively. He's no leader & is a huge whiner on the ice. It's a big reason Ottawa sucks.

NYR put out that Post article to let Tkachuk know they want him. They are hoping he asks for a trade since Ottawa seems to be going no where again.

I don't see Ottawa trading him anywhere in the East if they get to that.
 
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MarkovsKnee said:
Tkachuk is gawd awful defensively. This guy dogs it defensively. He's no leader & is a huge whiner on the ice. It's a big reason Ottawa sucks.

NYR put out that Post article to let Tkachuk know they want him. They are hoping he asks for a trade since Ottawa seems to be going no where again.

I don't see Ottawa trading him anywhere in the East if they get to that.
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The allure of being in the Big Apple helps them attract players/free agents but they haven't won anything since 94 so none of it has yielded results. I saw it and assumed there might be a desire to send him out of Ottawa and for them it wouldn't be the first time they traded a star player.

Slaf has stalled a bit in my opinion and the report that management has talked to him about his game is also concerning considering the money they signed him to in the summer. I wonder if he will ever be a 70-90-point player or a 50-point big guy that leaves us wanting more.
 
MarkovsKnee said:
I'd do that too. I would be ok with a Dach - Kaako swap, too, although we'd have too many wingers.
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Good thing Newhook could take a center spot in that case, even though he kinda sucks at it. He can pilot a line until we're ready to give Beck or Kapanen a shot at the NHL.
 
Boss Man Hughes said:
Agreed except that some teams don't let their prospects develop. Rangers, Colorado. Nashville etc.
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Yes and no, rangers let Lafreniere develop and now gets minutes in the top 6 and they probably had no idea of trading him ever. Colorado let Mackinnon develop even in his ‘’down’’ years, same goes for Rantanen who exploded around 21. My point is more that young players needs some time to develop to get to their ‘’finished’’ product, fans here It’s like they want young guys to be at their peak years and skip the development part right when they arrive. They wanna trade 20 years old kids after 2-3 seasons while you’re not seeing that from columbus or ducks fans about Fantilli or Carlsson.
 
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OldCraig71 said:
The allure of being in the Big Apple helps them attract players/free agents but they haven't won anything since 94 so none of it has yielded results. I saw it and assumed there might be a desire to send him out of Ottawa and for them it wouldn't be the first time they traded a star player.

Slaf has stalled a bit in my opinion and the report that management has talked to him about his game is also concerning considering the money they signed him to in the summer. I wonder if he will ever be a 70-90-point player or a 50-point big guy that leaves us wanting more.
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Slafkovsky will figure it out.
 
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OldCraig71 said:
The allure of being in the Big Apple helps them attract players/free agents but they haven't won anything since 94 so none of it has yielded results. I saw it and assumed there might be a desire to send him out of Ottawa and for them it wouldn't be the first time they traded a star player.

Slaf has stalled a bit in my opinion and the report that management has talked to him about his game is also concerning considering the money they signed him to in the summer. I wonder if he will ever be a 70-90-point player or a 50-point big guy that leaves us wanting more.
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He scored 50 points as a 19 years old and still on a 50 points pace this year with people whining about him and not playing his best. He is on par with most 19-20 years old high picks in the league. How can someone think he ‘’stalled’’ in becoming more than a 50 points guy lol.
 
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SlafySZN said:
He scored 50 points as a 19 years old and still on a 50 points pace this year with people whining about him and not playing his best. He is on par with most 19-20 years old high picks in the league. How can someone think he ‘’stalled’’ in becoming more than a 50 points guy lol.
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Scouts projected him to be a second-line player which is a 50-60 point guy.
 
SlafySZN said:
Ottawa totally should’ve traded Tkachuk at 20 years old, when he scored 44 points or when he scored 36 points in 56 games. Was totally destined to not be better.

Every team develop and let their young players mature, the habs needs to be different and trade them all before they’re even close to their peak!

But then would want to ‘’bet’’ on a player from another team that had a similar season at 21 that Slaf had as a 19 years old… doesn’t make much sense.
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I'm not advocating for trading Slaf, but you have to be realistic and right now he's nowhere near worth what Tkachuk is.

The team decided to go all in on slaf after 50ish good games, so now they're going to have to ride it out with him and hopefully he gets back to that player who could potentially be a 30-30 player.
 
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Jurivan Demidovsky said:
Entertainment purposes only, In this crazy scenario Montreal wins the cup this season! Is it worth it? The cap actually works lol. Let the freak outs begin! Lol

To Pitsburgh: Demidov, Reinbacher/or/Mailloux, 2025 1st, 2025 1st #2, 2026 1st, Barron, Savard, Armia, Matheson, Dvorak, Anderson

To Montreal: Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Karlsson, Puljujarvi


Dach - Crosby - Laine
Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Heineman - Malkin - Gallagher
Newhook- Evans - Puljujarvi

Hutson - Letang
Guhle - Karlsson
Xhekaj - Struble

Montembeault
Dobes
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you need to be muted forever goodbye
 
Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
I'm not advocating for trading Slaf, but you have to be realistic and right now he's nowhere near worth what Tkachuk is.

The team decided to go all in on slaf after 50ish good games, so now they're going to have to ride it out with him and hopefully he gets back to that player who could potentially be a 30-30 player.
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What are you talkimg about? There is nothing to ride out yet. he has only played 24 games and many with guys playing like crap. He may not be 100% and he is only 20 years old. If he looks the same in a couple of years it is time to worry.
 
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MarkovsKnee said:
Slafkovsky will figure it out.
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Exactly the difference between Slaf and Tkachuk is Slaf wants to and is being asked to have a defensive consciousness.
I'm not surprised Slaf is having difficulty balancing his game between the loose game of last season and accountability this year.
I see signs of improvement and once he trusts and has confidence in his own instincts he will play faster hockey.
 
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