HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale
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sampollock
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I would like to trade Matheson coming off that season. but for in a package for a established young top guy
BergevinBurner
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McGroarty seems like a prime Hughes target. Fits our window, on a team without much leverage and he's much more NHL ready than whoever we'd take at 26th. Maybe something around 26+Barron+? could be on the table.
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Suzuki and Dach played in the AHL, jus not for Laval. Guhle played in the AHL as well.
And I’m not sure why you’re bringing up Slaf? I literally said “Other than Slaf who else on this team never went through the AHL?“.
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Suzuki didn't play in the AHL. Dach played 3 games total. Caufield played 8 AHL games. Ghule 3 games.
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No clue what the situation is with him. From what I've read he wants to play a big role wherever he's playing, and Winnipeg can't guarantee that for him next season if he signs there. So he maybe he'll opt to return to college and try for a championship there. If he were moved to a rebuilding team then it'd be much easier to slot him into a consistent top 9 position, so perhaps he'd be willing to sign in that situation.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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Matheson will be gone at best next year deadline lol. Idk why people are so high on him. He makes a point for 2 deadly turnovers he cost us.
Id ship him myself for a 10th oa. This guy has 0 future in Montreal either way. The only excuse i see is that we need veterans, then just sign a cheap ufa for a year.
I don't think Hutson needs to watch Matheson making 40 brutal turnovers a game and his famous lose the puck at the blueline.
People rather signs washed ufas and keep the 1-2 assets with a bit of value because of a dead season.
Make a splash trade or sell at the TDL , this team doesn't need any UFA this year except like i said extra body if we trade
We traded Matheson for Petry and Poehling. Run away if someone gives u a good first pick
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A malign star kept him
It's the opposite - it's the fans who'll trade anything with a pulse who live in an alternate reality in which real players and the team don't actually matter and think it's reasonable business to whore everything out for a pick no matter what. It's not a realistic strategy. If you're going to trade Matheson, do it for an actual tangible player. His value should worth more than the 10th overall, which is a good pick, but it's far from a homerun pick.
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Takes a confident 20 years old kid to play hardball with an NHL team lmao. Just sign your ELC and pay your dues.
Fairs lol but this isn't the draft thread...that kinda of twerking for prospects can stay in those threads lol.
From what I can find for Suzuki, he apparently went to play one playoff game. Wether or not he actually played in that game I don’t know, I never followed the Wolves.
Either way my point remains the same. Dude ain’t no Bedard, not sure how he can demand a guarantee spot and I don’t think many teams outside of SJ/CHI can guarantee that. Just be a pro, sign your ELC, show up to training camp and earn your spot.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
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A guy wanting a trade is gonna be traded at the biggest trade dates in the year.
My guess , he's going to Buffalo
As part of the league rules, teams can trade during the playoffs but not on game days. So we can expect a few trades to be announced tomorrow
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A malign star kept him
I think it's about the money. It's probably not all that advantageous for him to go from college to the AHL whereas getting access to NHL $ is extremely appealing.
It's a numbers game and it seems like the Jets are getting boned here but from the player's perspective, the logic checks out.
Had to pick the team that got « hijacked » by a friend of his?
Doubt it…
Ben Chariot got the Habs a 1st and 4th...you must mean Matheson falling off a literal cliff and ceasing to exist.
No they're not...i'm not evetrying to be difficult or obtuse here, there are no 25+ min Dmen, with 60+ points and making less than 5M/yr that are on the market.
There just isn't...
yes you trust your scouting staff to do their jobs.
The amateur scouting staff job is to project the value of a player, and that is never a sure thing. This isn't even a debate unless you're talking about a Connor McDavid/Sidney Crosby/Alexander Ovechkin type of talent, and i'm sorry, but you're not drafting that at #10.
The pro scouting staff job is to properly gauge the value of players actually playing IN the NHL (I know you know this) and determining their value and if you look at the value of Dmen traded in the NHL in, well forever, their value is very well established and no Dman of the pedigree of Matheson is being traded for a lottery scratch ticket other than on message boards.
I'm not FOR Montreal keeping Matheson, I do think his value is highest right now (2 years at 4.8M, coming off a career year).
I'm just not for giving him away and crossing my fingers the player we pick 10th overall is more Miko Rantanen than Tyson Jost.
Nah, no way...i'm giving up tangible value, I need tangible return.
For me, there's no one I wouldn't trade for the right trade...so I get the talk of moving Matheson, it's the poor returns i'm seeing being discussed that's shocking to me.
Habs fans seem to not like Matheson for whatever reason, but as I've said before, take away the name "Matheson" and just shop his profile, there's no reasonable fan who says i'm trading that for a mid 1st round pick.
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Here but no longer posting regularly and it’s probably for the best.
You and others are doing a great job keeping exchanges interesting and that’s all that really matters.
LaP
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I wouldn't trade Matheson for the 10th overall and I have zero interest in signing either Perron or Stamkos in free agency.
So yeah.....
Yeah I understand that. And if he was playing for a shit team like Chicago/SJ I get it. There’s no reason for them to say no.
But Winnipeg was the 4th best team in the league. They were firing on all cylinders for the last 25 games and were battling for home ice advantage till the end in a stacked Western conference.
When was he supposed to play? And over who? You play him in one of the last game in the season where you’re trying to secure home ice?
Or you play him in the playoffs and his first NHL game is a playoff game against the Avs? Kid ain’t ready for that. Skating is supposedly a big weakness of his, can’t throw him against guys like Mack, Makar, Rantanen, Nichushkin, Lehky etc.
Such high stake games against that Colorado team ain’t the time or the place to work on your weak skating.
If the Jets were out of the playoff race than I’m sure they would have gladly signed him and let him play a game or 2 like we did with Hutson to burn a year. You want to break into a contender you’re just gonna have to do it the proper way. Just my opinion, I have nothing against the kid.
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