Well, at worst his game falls off a cliff (which happens to players in their 30s) and he's worth nothing.
Ben Chariot got the Habs a 1st and 4th...you must mean Matheson falling off a literal cliff and ceasing to exist.
The reason to not maximize his current value with the team is what it serves vs. what he can return. Because players like Matheson ARE available on the market, its core players like that in their early to mid 20s that aren't. And odds aren't good that who a team picks in the mid to late 20s vs. 10th range will be of the same quality (there's been a TON of research in that area).
No they're not...i'm not evetrying to be difficult or obtuse here, there are no 25+ min Dmen, with 60+ points and making less than 5M/yr that are on the market.
There just isn't...
Its not on the amateur scouting staff to judge the value of a pro player on my team. They're supposed to project what prospects can be in the NHL. Its on the pro scouting staff and coaching staff to give the information on internal pieces and its on upper management to parse the information and make a determination. You still have to trust your scouting staff.
yes you trust your scouting staff to do their jobs.
The amateur scouting staff job is to project the value of a player, and that is never a sure thing. This isn't even a debate unless you're talking about a Connor McDavid/Sidney Crosby/Alexander Ovechkin type of talent, and i'm sorry, but you're not drafting that at #10.
The pro scouting staff job is to properly gauge the value of players actually playing IN the NHL (I know you know this) and determining their value and if you look at the value of Dmen traded in the NHL in, well forever, their value is very well established and no Dman of the pedigree of Matheson is being traded for a lottery scratch ticket other than on message boards.
I'm not against Montreal keeping Matheson (they need to replace his minutes at least partially if they trade him) or trade him for a young player instead, but its a no brainer fore a rebuilding team to move a player who doesn't fit your long term plans for age reasons for a pick/prospect/young NHLer who does. It just depends on the pick (and who is available there or the player/prospect.
Does it? The point is your getting less certainty/information for potential upside.
I'm not FOR Montreal keeping Matheson, I do think his value is highest right now (2 years at 4.8M, coming off a career year).
I'm just not for giving him away and crossing my fingers the player we pick 10th overall is more Miko Rantanen than Tyson Jost.
Nah, no way...i'm giving up tangible value, I need tangible return.
Fully agree here, i don't quite get all the trade Matheson now talk. Who is going to replace the point production and the ice time he eats up? The young guys also need some mentors on the team. I would at the very least keep him for this season.
For me, there's no one I wouldn't trade for the right trade...so I get the talk of moving Matheson, it's the poor returns i'm seeing being discussed that's shocking to me.
Habs fans seem to not like Matheson for whatever reason, but as I've said before, take away the name "Matheson" and just shop his profile, there's no reasonable fan who says i'm trading that for a mid 1st round pick.
