HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[Lafleurs Guy]

Vachon23; *Let's sign this 50pts 35yo PP specialist*

Everybody;

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That’s how I feel in the draft thread when I suggest taking Eiserman.

For two seasons. Two seasons Montreal doesn't need the cap space and with no implication that he's a core piece or setting the table. Its not like teams haven't acquired contracts like his in the past without resetting the cap. You think Every middle 6 forward Montreal has is going to try to get above 6 mil because Monahan was paid that in 2022-2023? Did Monahan have undue pressure when he was Montreal's 3rd highest paid player in 2022-2023?

Tavares is part of Toronto's "core-4" (or "core-5"). The issue wasn't the salary, it was that he was signed long term as a core piece. If Laine were to be acquired and demonstrates play at a high enough level the would lead to him being re-signed at a big number, then that's just a massive win.

How he would handle the baseline pressure of the market is a fair question and consideration, but unless Montreal trades the equivalent of Sergachev for him, I don't buy that he'd have more pressure because of a high salary because it doesn't really make sense why.

Okay, forget the contract portion.

I’m still not a fan of this move. And I absolutely think the fans would get on him the moment he went cold. You’ve seen this place when a player slumps. And I just don’t think this guy has the mental makeup for Montreal.

You know our best paid player is "permanently injured" Carey Price, right? Just to be precise because people keep saying it is Nick.

“Akshually…”

Come on man…

Habs have had nothing but slumping players though, we’re used to it. Guys like Anderson and Drouin and their year-long goal-less streaks come to mind. We’re even collectively numb at this point.

And Drouin had to stop playing hockey altogether for a while. He suffered deep depression and Laine also has red flags on this front. I don’t think we’re the right fit.

 

[Vachon23]

Vachon23; *Let's sign this 50pts 35yo PP specialist*

Everybody;

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I’m not the one who came with Perron

It’s not like if we couldn’t use help on the PP

And the end of the day, he’s the UFA that make the most sense since he won’t ask for term/that much money and he will take a spot before the guy we will take at 5 will be ready

 

[ReHabs]

Drouin never being ripped for dogging it is one of the hottest takes I've seen here in a while, and I like the idea of Montreal acquiring Laine.

Depends on your perspective and definition but mean snark online among die-hard fans is not even 10% of the fan commentary experience. The media was always rooting for him -- even when it was laughable and clearly pathetic to suggest he could turn it around. Drouin went MIA both figuratively and literally and the city was still hoping for the best for Drouin until the last minute.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Depends on your perspective and definition but mean snark online among die-hard fans is not even 10% of the fan commentary experience. The media was always rooting for him -- even when it was laughable and clearly pathetic to suggest he could turn it around. Drouin went MIA both figuratively and literally and the city was still hoping for the best for Drouin until the last minute.

I wouldn't limit the things said about Drouin online to "Snark", but it wasn't limited to online anyways.

 

[the]

If a trade can be done between Dumb Donkey and Laine I would definitely pull the trigger.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

I don't understand why people are so scared of trading Matheson lol , do you expect the team to have Matheson on it when we are contending?

What's so bad about a rebuilding team going in with holes in the roster , I don't see the big deal , I guess we are trying to compete next year so Hughes won't flip him

What is amazing is how everybody was shitting on the guy during the season but now that the trade talks are going on post season dude has value and is an important piece of the team all of the sudden.

 

[Captain Mountain]

What is amazing is how everybody was shitting on the guy during the season but now that the trade talks are going on post season dude has value and is an important piece of the team all of the sudden.

They may be different people.

Anyone who thinks the guy who finished 3rd in TOI and had among the toughest minutes in the NHL isn't an important piece or is easily replaceable wasn't paying close enough attention.

Doesn't mean he can't be traded, but the reason Montreal wants veteran D has not changed and Matheson has performed admirably.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I’m not the one who came with Perron

It’s not like if we couldn’t use help on the PP

And the end of the day, he’s the UFA that make the most sense since he won’t ask for term/that much money and he will take a spot before the guy we will take at 5 will be ready

I wouldn't mind Perron one bit as a short term UFA signing. He always said he'd like to play for the Habs before he retires.

More than that, he can still produce. His last two years in Detroit:

47 pts (17G, 30A) in 76 GP last year.
56 pts (24G, 32A) in 82 GP the year before.

If Habs can add that kind of secondary scoring, even if Perron produces less than he has in the past, it would still be a welcome addition to the Habs' line-up.

 

[sampollock]

habs needs according to me

1. 2nd line scorer asap
2. two players min for the 3rd and 4th lines. pezz and harvey P stay in AHL
3. love the long shot try of laine

can't take these ahl players anymore on the 3rd and 4th lines.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

lol devils say no

 

[Adam Michaels]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

I think the Devils are probably dangling the 10th OA pick for a goalie like Markstrom or Sarros.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

Devils might be ok with it depending on how they view Matheson. I think Seattle says no and I think Kent doesn't want to deal Matheson for various reasons (Kulture, Montrealer, his buddy, need for veterans, accelerated rebuild, etc) if I were a betting man.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

Why would the Devil's want Matheson?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Why would the Devil's want Matheson?

Because we told them to.

 

[sheed36]

I think the Devils are probably dangling the 10th OA pick for a goalie like Markstrom or Sarros.

IMO if the Devils would move the 10th OA pick alone for a 34 year old Markstrom (if he'd waive his NMC for NJ) the deal would already be done by Conroy before the Devils came to their senses. That would be a very high price to pay for a 34 year old goalie.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I’m not the one who came with Perron

It’s not like if we couldn’t use help on the PP

And the end of the day, he’s the UFA that make the most sense since he won’t ask for term/that much money and he will take a spot before the guy we will take at 5 will be ready

Woudlnt mind Perron for a year but do we have space for him ?

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Roy - Dvorak - Gallagher
Armia - Evans - RHP


Might also make some trades at the draft plus gotta start giving Heinemen some chances he can become a good 3rd liner

At this point i rather give our young guys some chances in the line up but if we move some heads i would be down for Perron on a 1 year contract i always liked him

 

[BaseballCoach]

If a trade can be done between Dumb Donkey and Laine I would definitely pull the trigger.

July 2 or later

To Columbus:
Montreal 5 OA
Montreal 26 OA
Choice of Anderson, Gallagher, Dvorak
Carey Price

To Montreal:
Laine no retention
Columbus 4 OA

 

[vokiel]

Here's a good three team trade proposal since the devils have stated open interest in trading the 10th OA pick:

NJD - Matheson, Armia, WPG 2024 1st (2024)

SEA - 10th OA (2024), 2nd COL (2024)

MTL - 8th OA pick (2024)

It isn't good.

 

[HabzSauce]

I think you're tilting against something nobody has said. Namely, no one has said to trade Dach for anyone. Also it isn't a trade for the sake of making a trade -- far from it. It is to leverage a position of strength (LD) to acquire help in a position of weakness (F). You can disagree about the relative values and worthiness of certain players, that's fair enough.

I don't think keeping a top6 spot open for Joshua Roy (9pts in 23gp in the NHL, below PPG in the AHL) is how a reasonable NHL team would approach a season they don't plan to squander.

I wasn't saying you or anyone was suggesting that we trade Dach. Was just a response to your opinion that Necas and Zegras are both better than Dach, which I disagree with.
Agreed we should be trading from a position of strength, but for me - Necas/Zegras is making trades just to make trades. Neither of them are worth both the cost to acquire, and also the cost against the cap when they get their new deals. Just a matter of preference.

Any reasonable NHL team who has been living in the basement over the past 3 years would be smart to evaluate what they currently have before making big moves. We still have a bunch of deadweight with a lot of kids on the way - there are only so many openings. As for Roy, it was his first 23 games last year. So far he looked good, and I'd like to see what more he can do as he continues to develop over trading for necas/zegras. Top 6/9 minutes will help with that, just like it did with Slaf.

 

[Jaynki]

We won't get Laine with giving Anderson.

Laine has not negative value.

This player is not available if he don't ask for a trade.

He perceived value may be low relative to his ceiling and it is impossible to know if he will become a consistent ppg winger again.

But he is far from having negative value.

 

[Habs10Habs]

My only question is what number should I put on the back of a Habs jersey. When we obtain Laine?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

We won't get Laine with giving Anderson.

Laine has not negative value.

This player is not available if he don't ask for a trade.

He perceived value may be low relative to his ceiling and it is impossible to know if he will become a consistent ppg winger again.

But he is far from having negative value.

He has asked for a trade.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Would you trade the Habs 2025 1st (unprotected) and the WPG 1st to the sens/kraken for the 7th/8th OA pick this year?

 

[Guy Larose]

July 2 or later

To Columbus:
Montreal 5 OA
Montreal 26 OA
Choice of Anderson, Gallagher, Dvorak
Carey Price

To Montreal:
Laine no retention
Columbus 4 OA

Doesn't make sense. The 5th and 26th will be spent on June 28th.