HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[CanadienShark]

You're overlooking the main point again because your getting caught in the weeds. Stuck on Markstrom and zero talk about the retention which the Devils would be interested in big time.

Break down the same strategy but with your trade valuations in it. Lets me nit pick you like the paper boy in Ski School chasing people around for his $2.

ski school where is my $2 - Google Suche

You're missing the point. Markstrom (even retained) will not come anywhere remotely close to that.

 

[EveryDay]

According to Bruce garrioch, Mathieu Joseph is available in Ottawa.

Would you do Joseph for Dvorak?

 

[Habs Halifax]

You're missing the point. Markstrom (even retained) will not come anywhere remotely close to that.

No, not missing the point. I already acknowledged that. Are you scared to post your own trade valuations using the same type of strategy or are you going to go on and on and on about Markstrom only?

 

[CanadienShark]

No, not missing the point. I already acknowledged that. Are you scared to post your own trade valuations using the same type of strategy or are you going to go on and on and on about Markstrom only?

What are you even talking about now? Why do I need to post a proposal? And what are you trying for with this proposal, if not flipping Markstrom for 10th overall? That's why I keep harping on Markstrom - he was the entire premise of your deals.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Any idea as t why Verbeek wants Zegras gone???

I believe he doesn't really want him gone. I think there is a bit of team fit issues and it's a little sour from their contraction talks last summer. He's looking to flip to add assets in other areas.

The other layer is I think Verbeek also thinks Zegras is a perimeter skilled type and he might be afraid to pay him that $8M+ after this bridge deal is done. Trying to move him now while his contract is easier to move.

 

[morhilane]

According to Bruce garrioch, Mathieu Joseph is available in Ottawa.

Would you do Joseph for Dvorak?

He's been available for a year. Either nobody wants him or Ottawa is asking way too much.

 

[Kosseca]

He's been available for a year. Either nobody wants him or Ottawa is asking way too much.

Ottawa need cap space. most team wont take him at his full cap hit.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

According to Bruce garrioch, Mathieu Joseph is available in Ottawa.

Would you do Joseph for Dvorak?

Yeah, probably.

Joseph checks a lot of boxes that it sounds like the Habs want

 

[hvac412]

Indeed.
Reminds me of the Suzuki talk before last season.
What Arber has accomplished in the limited time spent playing at an elite level is incredible.
Why would anyone think a Dman of his age in those circumstances is a finished product?
I don't know what Xhekaj's ceiling is but I'm positive he hasn't reached it yet.

Sean ( if i wasn't doing radio I'd be flipping burgers) Cambell from tsn690 disagrees

 

[Kents polished head]

I would keep an eye on Lundell and Florida, as far as our "annual young NHL player acquisition" is concerned.

Florida doesn't have a 1st round pick this season, they have tons of important signings to do, Lundell is up for a new contract, and I could see them choosing to re-sign Montour and Reinhart before a young guy like Lundell. They also could use a guy like Harris who's dependable and cheap on their 3rd pair.

I don't know if the guy is going to be available nor what it would take to get him, but it's the kind of situation where I think Hughes is going to be all ears.

If I had to bet I would think the Panthers are likely to hang on to him, but you never know.

I'd still offer something like Winnipeg's 1st round pick, Colorado's 2nd round pick and Jordan Harris for Lundell.

 

[EveryDay]

I would keep an eye on Lundell and Florida, as far as our "annual young NHL player acquisition" is concerned.

Florida doesn't have a 1st round pick this season, they have tons of important signings to do, Lundell is up for a new contract, and I could see them choosing to re-sign Montour and Reinhart before a young guy like Lundell. They also could use a guy like Harris who's dependable and cheap on their 3rd pair.

I don't know if the guy is going to be available nor what it would take to get him, but it's the kind of situation where I think Hughes is going to be all ears.

If I had to bet I would think the Panthers are likely to hang on to him, but you never know.

He's a futur star IMO.

I believe there is about 1% chance he's getting trade since Bennett will be UFA next summer. I would love to add him to our team but the cost would probably be our 5th OV pick this year.

Would you pull the trigger if that was the deal? I might honestly, he's one of my favorite young player in the league but that would mean that Dach is either moved to RW or as a 3rd line center.

 

[Kents polished head]

He's a futur star IMO.

I believe there is about 1% chance he's getting trade since Bennett will be UFA next summer. I would love to add him to our team but the cost would probably be our 5th OV pick this year.

Would you pull the trigger if that was the deal? I might honestly, he's one of my favorite young player in the league but that would mean that Dach is either moved to RW or as a 3rd line center.

Not sure I would qualify him as a "future star", but yeah, I figured the package I suggested might have been on the low end.

If we could somehow do something similar to Romanov/Dach (by acquiring a mid 1st-rounder and flipping it to Florida for Lundell in a separate deal as part of the package), I would definitely do it.

As for the 5th overall pick, I'll tell you after I know who we picked if I would have done the trade haha.

 

[le_sean]

Panthers are definitely keeping Lundell over Bennett. He’s homegrown, 5 years younger, filled in great at 2C when Bennett was hurt. Bennett is going to be like Gallagher in his 30s, he’ll keep getting banged up with his style of play.

 

[Kents polished head]

Another guy I would be interested in is Cole Perfetti that would fit the mold, but the issue I see with him it that he's another forward on the smaller side.

I went around all of the potential targets yesterday evening and I don't see a whole lot of obvious guys that would fit the usual criteria. They're either too proven or not enough proven.

I think it's actually likely we keep the 26th this season.

 

[EveryDay]

Not sure I would qualify him as a "future star", but yeah, I figured the package I suggested might have been on the low end.

If we could somehow do something similar to Romanov/Dach (by acquiring a mid 1st-rounder and flipping it to Florida for Lundell in a separate deal as part of the package), I would definitely do it.

As for the 5th overall pick, I'll tell you after I know who we picked if I would have done the trade haha.

Honestly I don't beleive a mid round pick would be enough for him, he's really talented and the Panthers are not going to rebuild soon IMO. I'm not even sure they would accept Guhle/Reinbacher for him if that was the offer. He's going to be a great 2nd line center hovering around 60-70 pts per season while been a Selke top 10 players for the next decade.

Would you trade that type of player if he was in MTL?

 

[Kents polished head]

Honestly I don't beleive a mid round pick would be enough for him, he's really talented and the Panthers are not going to rebuild soon IMO. I'm not even sure they would accept Guhle/Reinbacher for him if that was the offer. He's going to be a great 2nd line center hovering around 60-70 pts per season while been a Selke top 10 players for the next decade.

Would you trade that type of player if he was in MTL?

I probably don't see him as highly as you do.

 

[Habs Halifax]

What are you even talking about now? Why do I need to post a proposal? And what are you trying for with this proposal, if not flipping Markstrom for 10th overall? That's why I keep harping on Markstrom - he was the entire premise of your deals.

What I am talking about is you don't like the details involved in the overall strategy move. So post your details on how you think you can pull it off. It's not that complicated.

You're playing the "got cha" game with no proper context into what you would do. Don't worry, you are not alone. This site is full of it.

 

[CanadienShark]

What I am talking about is you don't like the details involved in the overall strategy move. So post your details on how you think you can pull it off. It's not that complicated.

You're playing the "got cha" game with no proper context into what you would do. Don't worry, you are not alone. This site is full of it.

No thanks. I'm not going to make a proposal. I never said I would. You're not making much sense, quite honestly.

 

[Habs Halifax]

No thanks. I'm not going to make a proposal. I never said I would. You're not making much sense, quite honestly.

So you are just here to bark at other proposals? Cool bro

 

[CanadienShark]

So you are just here to bark at other proposals? Cool bro

Only the outlandish, crazy ones.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Only the outlandish, crazy ones.

Doesn't make you look any better

Go back and reread. I acknowledged the trade post was at the absolute high end and this is about getting the 10th pick/Zegras in the very first reply to you . You got stuck in a pot hole (Markstrom) while driving and forgot where you were driving now.

Now you are too chicken to rephrase the trade breakdown in you own evaluations. Wow.. great character... Just here to bark about bad proposals.

 

[Doublechin]

Panthers are definitely keeping Lundell over Bennett. He’s homegrown, 5 years younger, filled in great at 2C when Bennett was hurt. Bennett is going to be like Gallagher in his 30s, he’ll keep getting banged up with his style of play.

I agree

That next Bennett deal is most likely going to be something like 7x6.5 and will 90% be a total trap

 

[Apfel Struble]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1798414116509642814

Makes sense sadly. Montreal is rich in futures and the Canes would want quality vets in their primes

If we take out the young core players like Suzuki, Caufield and Guhle, only Matheson, Montembeault are in play. Both of them would definitely interest the Canes, but would leave a hole in the Habs roster

If I were the Canes GM, I would be interested in Montembeault the most and propose something like Necas FOR Montembeault + Xhekaj as the main pieces

It hurts a bit on the Habs side

 

[Egresch]

I would keep an eye on Lundell and Florida, as far as our "annual young NHL player acquisition" is concerned.

Florida doesn't have a 1st round pick this season, they have tons of important signings to do, Lundell is up for a new contract, and I could see them choosing to re-sign Montour and Reinhart before a young guy like Lundell. They also could use a guy like Harris who's dependable and cheap on their 3rd pair.

I don't know if the guy is going to be available nor what it would take to get him, but it's the kind of situation where I think Hughes is going to be all ears.

If I had to bet I would think the Panthers are likely to hang on to him, but you never know.

I'd still offer something like Winnipeg's 1st round pick, Colorado's 2nd round pick and Jordan Harris for Lundell.

I have been mentioning Lundell as potential target for couple month. He would fit amazingly, left-handed center, strong defensively, unlocked offensive potential, great playoff pedigree.
It would cost a fortune, but there is a small chance the Panthers trade him. I even asked on main board and Panthers fans wrote that they would rather lose Reinhart, Montour or just trade Bobrovsky, Ekblad in order to keep Lundell in team. They would definitely not want to trade within division.

 

[Kents polished head]

I have been mentioning Lundell as potential target for couple month. He would fit amazingly, left-handed center, strong defensively, unlocked offensive potential, great playoff pedigree.
It would cost a fortune, but there is a small chance the Panthers trade him. I even asked on main board and Panthers fans wrote that they would rather lose Reinhart, Montour or just trade Bobrovsky, Ekblad in order to keep Lundell in team. They would definitely not want to trade within division.

Not that I'd be interested into trading him within the conference (or at all, really). But I wonder what a guy like Xhekaj would fetch in a trade.

You have to imagine his value is at least similar to Romanov's when we traded him...