HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #87: 2024 Season Finale

[417]

I'm not for or against that trade. It seems we're trading Matheson's offense for Necas's. A wash. Also, with that move, we eliminate half the veterans on defense. Is that a smart move?

It would be a risk but you’d be adding a long term asset at the cost of a valuable short term one.

I think when we sit here and imagine trade proposals, I always try to give up something I'd rather not give because you have to give quality to get quality. This idea that you can pool up a bunch of prospects/players/picks you don't super value to get a player you do value, isn't realistic.

The Jets 1st round pick + Harris + Anderson, essential what amounts to our undesired trade commodities (based on a lot of what I read here or online) isn't going to bring the kind of return we think or hope for.

So yes, it would hurt to lose Matheson, who again I value very highly, but I'd do it for Necas and figure out how to fill that void with our many LHDs and picks we have over the next few years.

Necas could be a fixture on our top 6 for the next 6-8 years, Matheson isn't projected to be.

I doubt it would be a 1 for 1, but as the framework of a deal, there's something rhere IMO.

 

[Pat Riot]

A name no one is talking about and there has been rumours before....

Jordan Kyrou.

I bet you that is the target this off season.

Jordan Cryou has been talked about. Mentally fragile wont survive in mtl jungle.

 

[Habs Icing]

It would be a risk but you’d be adding a long term asset at the cost of a valuable short term one.

I think when we sit here and imagine trade proposals, I always try to give up something I'd rather not give because you have to give quality to get quality. This idea that you can pool up a bunch of prospects/players/picks you don't super value to get a player you do value, isn't realistic.

The Jets 1st round pick + Harris + Anderson, essential what amounts to our undesired trade commodities (based on a lot of what I read here or online) isn't going to bring the kind of return we think or hope for.

So yes, it would hurt to lose Matheson, who again I value very highly, but I'd do it for Necas and figure out how to fill that void with our many LHDs and picks we have over the next few years.

Necas could be a fixture on our top 6 for the next 6-8 years, Matheson isn't projected to be.

I doubt it would be a 1 for 1, but as the framework of a deal, there's something rhere IMO.

Maybe not 8 years but I can see management seeing him as a fixture for 5-6 years.

 

[Whalers Fan]

thats why you trade hutson for necas (signed at 7mx7) and draft parekh/Levshunov

Hutson has a chance to be something very special. There's no way you trade him for Necas.

 

[417]

Maybe not 8 years but I can see management seeing him as a fixture for 5-6 years.

Sure that's a possibility, I want to reiterate that this isn't a reflection of me not valuing Matheson.

I’m just using an organizational strength (LHD) to fill an organizational void (proven top 6 wingers).

But I totally get your apprehension with the proposed deal.

 

[Beer and Chips]

Hughes is going to ask the price for anyone available out there, this help defining the market price for his own players.

But a few weeks before the 2022 draft, media-insiders were saying that Hughes was calling everyone to find another 1st round pick in the top 10 (ended up #13 and was used in the Dach trade).

In the last week, I heard/read a few of the same media-insiders saying that Hughes is trying to trade up (from Winnipeg 1st)/get another selection in the top 15.

This I would prefer over a bidding war for Necas and Pesce, and sign short term veterans. I worry they are trying speed up the rebuild too quickly and give up on some of these young defensemen too soon.

 

[Laboeuf]

I would call Hurricanes offer them 7th round pick for Necas Kotkanimi and their future first round pick. Then turn around buyout KK.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I would call Hurricanes offer them 7th round pick for Necas Kotkanimi and their future first round pick. Then turn around buyout KK.

Or, the Canes just do that and keep Necas and that 1st...

 

[The Great Weal]

I see many posters are in a hurry to unload Barron. That's a mistake in my view. I would give him at least half the season to show any improvement before contemplating any trade.

What's going to be the plan for him if he doesn't dominate camp? He will likely be the #7 dman but I don't see how that will give him the chance to improve. I'd also expect Mailloux and Reinbacher to overtake him sooner rather than later.

 

[themilosh]

Hutson has a chance to be something very special. There's no way you trade him for Necas.

uhmmm: Necas (signed at $7Mx7) yes I do it... that opens up a LD spot for us to pick up a similar (but bigger) RHD puck mover in Parekh.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Question.

Would it change anything if we acquire Florida 2025 1st round pick?
Would it give us more options/control over Calgary 1st round pick in the Monahan trade?

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Ideally, the Armias aka Anderson, Dvorak, Pez, Kova, Evans, Gally and Savard are gone before the season starts. So they can stockpile on picks again although most of these guys are just dead weight lingering around from the BargainBin era.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Question.

Would it change anything if we acquire Florida 2025 1st round pick?
Would it give us more options/control over Calgary 1st round pick in the Monahan trade?

Presumably they can only trade the Cal or Fla 2025 1st to the Habs. And then the other pick would also belong to Montreal. Don't know if they could trade one of thm to another team if HuGo agrees to it.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Question.

Would it change anything if we acquire Florida 2025 1st round pick?
Would it give us more options/control over Calgary 1st round pick in the Monahan trade?

The trade would likely need an agreed cancelation of the previous agreement. So, Calgary trades Florida's 1st to the Habs and the Habs get an additional pick, prospect, something to cancel getting Calgary's pick.

If Calgary trades Florida's pick without that, Montreal would likely get Calgary's 1st automatically then

 

[Whalers Fan]

uhmmm: Necas (signed at $7Mx7) yes I do it... that opens up a LD spot for us to pick up a similar (but bigger) RHD puck mover in Parekh.

Hutson has a unique skill set that could potentially make him a huge difference maker on a contending team. Necas, while a decent player, does not have that potential. Trading Hutson at this point could end up being a monumental mistake.

 

[OldCraig71]

uhmmm: Necas (signed at $7Mx7) yes I do it... that opens up a LD spot for us to pick up a similar (but bigger) RHD puck mover in Parekh.

This isn't going to happen.

 

[Runner77]

This isn't going to happen.

In the history of HF draft threads on this forum, I doubt that any fake trade someone posted ever saw the light of day.

I like your odds.

 

[Milhouse40]

uhmmm: Necas (signed at $7Mx7) yes I do it... that opens up a LD spot for us to pick up a similar (but bigger) RHD puck mover in Parekh.

I strongly believe that our lack of offense and our PP problem all come from the same place, the lack of help from the blueline. I think Hutson can solve both of these issue.

But the biggest problem is Hutson's elite potential.
We don't know what we have yet and he has the potential to be like top 5 in the NHL offensively for a D, just can't trade that potential.

 

[Scintillating10]

uhmmm: Necas (signed at $7Mx7) yes I do it... that opens up a LD spot for us to pick up a similar (but bigger) RHD puck mover in Parekh.

What role you see Necas playing on Habs?

 

[sampollock]

Tanner Jeannot

Would this guy not look good on the 3rd line. 2 years at 2.67 mil.

 

[Runner77]

Tanner Jeannot

Would this guy not look good on the 3rd line. 2 years at 2.67 mil.

Why would Tampa not hold on to him at that low AAV?

 

[OldCraig71]

Could Dakota Joshua be a ufa target for Hughes? A big body late bloomer type of player that won't cost a fortune to sign and I say this without really knowing our cap situation. He played well for the Canucks in the playoffs and is an interesting player.

 

[sampollock]

Why would Tampa not hold on to him at that low AAV?

They may need the cap room

 

[417]

Tanner Jeannot

Would this guy not look good on the 3rd line. 2 years at 2.67 mil.

I find he's a terrible hockey player still living off th reputation of one magical year and above average pugilistic skills.

He's a bigger Michael Pezzetta.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Tanner Jeannot

Would this guy not look good on the 3rd line. 2 years at 2.67 mil.

Yeah, would be a nice player to add. Could potentially get him longish term if things work out.

Why would Tampa not hold on to him at that low AAV?

Tampa needs cap space and he's easier to move on from than Cirelli, Cernak, etc.