HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[Riggins]

They would be nuts to turn down a second, he isn’t that good. The D core can manage the remaining 20 games. Easily replaceable with a 1yr UFA next summer.

Next trade deadline they would be lucky to even get a 2nd.

Just don’t see the value other posters do.

If it's a 1st you do it. If it's a 2nd forget it, you can easily get that next year at the deadline and get another full year of Savard to mentor the young D. Good veteran UFA leaders don't grow on trees, you can't just easily sign them.

 

[Habby4Life]

A late 2nd is worth nothing. He can always be trade at the next deadline.

Hutson went 62!

David Savard or Lane Hutson, no brainer!!!

For what a 3rd or a fourth?

If it's a first you do it. If it's a 2nd forget it, you can easily get that next year at the deadline and get another full year of Savard to mentor the young D.

They won’t get a 2nd next year, he isn’t getting any better.

Mentoring, any UFA can do that.

 

[WinterLion]

Doesn't seem like much... buyers market, or is Lubushkin crap now?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Hutson went 62!

For what a 3rd or a fourth?

A late 2nd. He should have gone much higher though. Savard wants to stay with the Habs so Hughes is not going to move him unless he gets a deal he can't turn down. Won't look good to move a player who wants to play for the Habs for a 2nd. Won't look good to the rest of the team either and future UFA's. If someone offers say a 1st and a B prospect or a 1st and a 3rd or 4th everyone will understand that on a rebuilding team he couldn't turn that down.

 

[Habby4Life]

A late 2nd. He should have gone much higher though. Savard wants to stay with the Habs so Hughes is not going to move him unless he gets a deal he can't turn down. Won't look good to move a player who wants to play for the Habs for a 2nd. Won't look good to the rest of the team either. If someone offers say a 1st and a B prospect or a 1st and a 3rd or 4th everyone will understand that on a rebuilding team he couldn't turn that down.

He should have went higher, he didn’t! Second round pick has value if you draft properly.

Won’t look good to who? No one would blink an eye. We are talking about David Savard not Serge Savard, lol.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

He should have went higher, he didn’t! Second round pick has value if you draft properly.

Won’t look good to who? No one would blink an eye. We are talking about David Savard not Serge Savard, lol.

Savard is a decent player and well liked. Do you not understand that nobody wants to play for a Quebec team. They aren't going to want to give out NTC OR NMC's. The only way to avoid that is to treat the players well. Savard, current players and future acquisitions will understand a move for assets like a 1st or even an early 2nd. A late 2nd they may feel is just churning assets. I believe the 2025 draft is much deeper so a 2025 2nd + might be enough.

 

[Habby4Life]

Savard is a decent player and well liked. Do you not understand that nobody wants to play for a Quebec team. They aren't going to want to give out NTC OR NMC's. The only way to avoid that is to treat the players well. Savard, current players and future acquisitions will understand a move for assets like a 1st or even an early 2nd. A late 2nd they may feel is just churning assets. I believe the 2025 draft is much deeper so a 2025 2nd + might be enough.

trading Savard isn’t going to kill their chances of acquiring other players via trade or UFA, let’s be serious. Trading a guy is not treating a player poorly.

Anyway, imo, if offered a second, I’d pay his cab fare to get him to the airport!

 

[Sorinth]

Why, he’s nothing special. Totally replaceable.

If Hugo turned down a 2nd for Savard that’s bad asset management.

Asset management is also about helping the young guys you already have reach their potential. For example Savard helping Xhekaj reach his potential is way better asset management then getting a 2nd round pick.

 

[Habby4Life]

Asset management is also about helping the young guys you already have reach their potential. For example Savard helping Xhekaj reach his potential is way better asset management then getting a 2nd round pick.

The young guys have been around Eddy, Savard, Math long enough that they would be fine for 20 games.

you would think we were discussing Ray Bourque, lol.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

The young guys have been around Eddy, Savard, Math long enough that they would be fine for 20 games.

you would think we were discussing Ray Bourque, lol.

And what about next season?? He would be there to work with Mailloux, Hutson etc. He will NOT be moved for a 2nd. If team wants him they will have to pay a premium for that reason and for his fearlessness (blocking shots etc)

 

[Habby4Life]

And what about next season?? He would be there to work with Mailloux, Hutson etc. He will NOT be moved for a 2nd. If team wants him they will have to pay a premium for that reason and for his fearlessness (blocking shots etc)

Can’t sign a UFA next season?? Can’t be done.

You don’t know he won’t be moved for a second, none of us do. Only in Habs Land David Savard becomes irreplaceable.

My opinion stands, he’s nothing special an 5/6 that can be easily replaced. If offered a second Hughes should drive him to the airport. That’s my take.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Runner77]

Operative words: “believes” and “would”.

 

[Sorinth]

The young guys have been around Eddy, Savard, Math long enough that they would be fine for 20 games.

you would think we were discussing Ray Bourque, lol.

Xhekaj has been playing the best hockey of his NHL career these past few games, and we're going to mess that up for what, a 5% chance at a decent player? That's terrible asset management.

 

[HuGort]

 

[Runner77]

And yet the team that got him was not among the 4 finalists?

Must be cause Dallas landed “Tanev” and not “Taney”.

 

[26Mats]

Only Toronto strikes me as not stingy with their 1sts. But their GM just gave Hughes two 1sts in deals that didn't work out for him. Bit sure he'd trade a 2st for an aging player.

Holland did trade a 1st for Ekholm, who's a little older than Savard. But Savard would seem to be a big upgrade over Vincent Desharnais.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Only Toronto strikes me as not stingy with their 1sts. But their GM just gave Hughes two 1sts in deals that didn't work out for him. Bit sure he'd trade a 2st for an aging player.

Holland did trade a 1st for Ekholm, who's a little older than Savard. But Savard would seem to be a big upgrade over Vincent Desharnais.

Ekholm is pretty damn good and has a good amount of term at a fair deal.

Holland is also a coward and took that long to add to McDavid/Drai with real additions

 

[vokiel]

Operative words: “believes” and “would”.

That's not good.. Multiple picks worth a 1st??? Ridiculous ideas once more.

 

[Zorro]

Xhekaj has been playing the best hockey of his NHL career these past few games, and we're going to mess that up for what, a 5% chance at a decent player? That's terrible asset management.

If a 2nd is on the table, you take it...in a vacuum, sure that late 2nd doesn't look super great, however, it has a ton of value in terms of trades. That 2nd rounder would give us an additional 2nd rounder (we already have the Avs 2nd) on top of our 2 first rounders. That's 4 picks in the 2 rounds. If there's a player you like in the draft, you can use that draft currency and move up. Or you can pull another dach-like trade. HuGo has already hinted at the fact that they don't plan on using all of their draft picks to select players.

In terms of mentoring, there's lots of players that can do that. The players understand that this is a business and if anything, it shows that the player in question still has value and you're giving them a chance at a cup.

 

[Egresch]

That's not good.. Multiple picks worth a 1st??? Ridiculous ideas once more.

Agree, I do not think this is really an option for us. We have probably the best prospect depth in league and bunch of draft picks in next years. We need to trade quantity for quality. I like what Dallas did to acquire Tanev. No 1st, no top prospect lost, just bundle of assets.

 

[Guy Larose]

If a 2nd is on the table, you take it...in a vacuum, sure that late 2nd doesn't look super great, however, it has a ton of value in terms of trades. That 2nd rounder would give us an additional 2nd rounder (we already have the Avs 2nd) on top of our 2 first rounders. That's 4 picks in the 2 rounds. If there's a player you like in the draft, you can use that draft currency and move up. Or you can pull another dach-like trade. HuGo has already hinted at the fact that they don't plan on using all of their draft picks to select players.

In terms of mentoring, there's lots of players that can do that. The players understand that this is a business and if anything, it shows that the player in question still has value and you're giving them a chance at a cup.

No

 

[vokiel]

Agree, I do not think this is really an option for us. We have probably the best prospect depth in league and bunch of draft picks in next years. We need to trade quantity for quality. I like what Dallas did to acquire Tanev. No 1st, no top prospect lost, just bundle of assets.

They sacrificed a long term asset. Is it something Kent Hughes demonstrated he can do yet?

We're not out of any rebuilds, until he does it numerous times.

 

[Deleted member 257557]

He should have went higher, he didn’t! Second round pick has value if you draft properly.

Won’t look good to who? No one would blink an eye. We are talking about David Savard not Serge Savard, lol.

I completely disagree with your take on Savard and his worth to the habs. How he pairs with our young D is worth more than a 2nd for sure. Savard fits perfect right now.

You want Barron mentoring Hutson mentoring Xhekaj and hope for progression next year? lol

 

[26Mats]

Agree, I do not think this is really an option for us. We have probably the best prospect depth in league and bunch of draft picks in next years. We need to trade quantity for quality. I like what Dallas did to acquire Tanev. No 1st, no top prospect lost, just bundle of assets.

It's going to interesting to see what we can get for our deep prospect pool.

I mean, how much value do Struble, Harris, Barron, Trudeau and Engstrom, Bogdan, and Kovacevic have?

We may have to either let the cream rise to the top and trade those that don't for small returns, or trade one the big guns (Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson, Mailloux, Xhekaj, Matheson) if we want to land a good forward piece).

If you count, that's 13 dmen. We can't keep them all. Will be interesting to see who stays, who goes, and what we get for them.

 

[tazsub3]

I believe he's talking out of his ass on the players involved and just offering a personal opinion.

Yea , doubt kk has much value let alone for ep… like saying the habs will be trading Anderson plus for ep.