HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[eklund the clown]

Would you trade Montembeault + Dvorak + Winnipeg 1st for Levi + Middlestadt

i would but why would buffalo?

 

[sheed36]

I can see Kovacevic being traded before the deadline since teams are always looking for cheap depth dmen for the playoffs plus he's also signed for next season for really cheap.

I can also see Hughes possibly moving Harris out for a forward currently on an NHL roster who's around the same age and in a similar type situation as what Harris is and being in and out of the line up.

I expect teams will also be calling and asking about Savard but I think Hughes would rather just keep him for now unless he maybe gets an offer just too good to pass up on, whatever that could be.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Middlestadt is 25 and never had a 60 point season. I’d take a flyer on him but definitely not overpaying.

 

[Runner77]

Middlestadt is 25 and never had a 60 point season. I’d take a flyer on him but definitely not overpaying.

I understand that “Mittelstadt” is German for “middling stats”.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

 

[Deebs]

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

I'd love to steal Knies from them but it won't happen.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

Honestly, no.

Having seen a lot of their games he doesn't look very good.

Granted, I don't work for any team.

Also, granted people who do get jobs in the NHL still constantly do idiotic shit and stay employed.

 

[Runner77]

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

Knies is a non-starter for them in trade talks.

FWIW:

Friedman also pointed out that many experts scouting the draft feel there is a significant drop-off in talent beyond the top 20 and the Leafs do not want to trade prospects Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan, or everyday rookie Matthew Knies.

Hence, they would rather dangle their 2024 first rounder and even then, they seem to believe that they can use it to get more than a rental.

Link

 

[bcv]

Middlestadt is 25 and never had a 60 point season. I’d take a flyer on him but definitely not overpaying.

He has 73 pts in his last 82 games. Habs should be all over him if he’s made available.

 

[Lockin17]

Some talks about Harris going to Calgary

What would be the ask for Hughes ?

 

[General Fanager]

Some talks about Harris going to Calgary

What would be the ask for Hughes ?

link?

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

I doubt they move him. The value isnt there and they need as many guys on ELC as possible...

 

[Lockin17]

link?


I doubt they move him. The value isnt there and they need as many guys on ELC as possible...

Sportsnet voit Jordan Harris être échangé aux Flames de Calgary

Les discussions concernant l'avenir de Jordan Harris à Montréal font couler beaucoup d'encre.

www.infolnh.com

 

[The Great Weal]

Definitely wouldn’t mind going for Knies

 

[General Fanager]

Sportsnet voit Jordan Harris être échangé aux Flames de Calgary

Les discussions concernant l'avenir de Jordan Harris à Montréal font couler beaucoup d'encre.

www.infolnh.com

thats speculation,..not "talks" as you put it....

 

[Sterling Archer]

I understand that “Mittelstadt” is German for “middling stats”.

He’s definitely been mid. I think my spelling is a more accurate representation of his game.

Anyone have any interest in Knies out of Toronto? He's a having a tough rookie season, but posseses lots of nice tools that could be useful on a team such as ours.

I know it's Toronto and deals betwen rivals are not easily consummated, but they do need D and their draft capital is seriously lacking. We have both in spades.

Could something be worked out? Is it something we should explore?

They’re not trading him.

He has 73 pts in his last 82 games. Habs should be all over him if he’s made available.

Yeah but not at any price.

 

[ohiohabsfan29]

I haven't seen a lot of Zegras but I don't understand this hatred of him. In his draft class, he is the third-highest point-getter. Two points behind Cozens. Jack Hughes is in first place. Zegras is also 22 points ahead of our CC. He has 53 goals and 93 assists. He can't be that lousy of a teammate. He has the 3rd most assists from his draft class. Now if there's a problem with his defensive play that's another thing but offensively he is virtually tied with Cozens.

And this post is coming from a hockey Chauvinist. I usually don't go to bat for American players because I think for the most part many of them are overrated. The NHL wants to sell the game in the states therefore they hype up the American kids. So if I can see that Zegras is an offensively legit player, why can't you guys?

As for trading him, it depends on the ask. If it's this year's 1st round, I wouldn't do it. We could get a chance at Lindstrom or Demidov but I would consider it if the ask is Winnipeg's 1st and a B prospect.

I don’t hate him whatsoever. I don’t like the idea of giving up multiple assets for him based on this idea that he’s some major goal scorer when there’s no evidence to support that.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Knies is a non-starter for them in trade talks.

FWIW:

Friedman also pointed out that many experts scouting the draft feel there is a significant drop-off in talent beyond the top 20 and the Leafs do not want to trade prospects Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan, or everyday rookie Matthew Knies.

Hence, they would rather dangle their 2024 first rounder and even then, they seem to believe that they can use it to get more than a rental.

Link

Thanks man, I wasn't aware of his availability. Just was curious if he was worth a look and or feasible. Seems he's off the table.

 

[ML16]

There's more than one way to fill the holes before the start of next season.

Yeah, I might have exagerated a bit with the wording; winning the lottery, signing Guentzel and trading for a NHL-ready top-4 RHD would be one of the most straightforward roads, but many others could also lead to Rome, I concur…

What I meant essentially is that if Guentzel somehow becomes a Habs’ target this offseason, it would have to be within a larger, more aggressive plan to ice a competitive team as soon as 2024-2025 - and that such plan necessarily entails gambling on many ELC/RFA hitting their stride at the same time. Since it’s not likely (but not impossible) I conclude that summer 2025 seems like a likelier window for big game hunting.

 

[salbutera]

I don’t hate him whatsoever. I don’t like the idea of giving up multiple assets for him based on this idea that he’s some major goal scorer when there’s no evidence to support that.

2-of Zegras’-3 ELC years were 60pts+

In the last 10-years, 8-players on ELC had higher PPG than Zegras - McDavid, Draisaitl, Matthews, Marner and Nylander being 5-of them

Zegras has his issues but that’s pretty damn impressive if you ask me…

 

[Saundies]

How can you turn your nose up at Zegras when the team literally hasn't had more than one 60 point player on it since 2015? He has a down year and all of the sudden he's terrible and one-dimensional.

I'm not saying he isn't overrated, he probably is. I just don't believe he's as bad as people are starting to say and has something this team hasn't had enough of in too long -- offensive skill.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Knies is a non-starter for them in trade talks.

FWIW:

Friedman also pointed out that many experts scouting the draft feel there is a significant drop-off in talent beyond the top 20 and the Leafs do not want to trade prospects Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan, or everyday rookie Matthew Knies.

Hence, they would rather dangle their 2024 first rounder and even then, they seem to believe that they can use it to get more than a rental.

Link

Knies has definitely fallen off. He looks more like a grindy, bottom 6 energy guy than a top 6 forward right now. NHL is a tough place for rookies.

 

[calder candidate]

Leafs are in pretty bad cap situation they are trading guy on ELC like knies.

 

[nhlfan9191]

How can you turn your nose up at Zegras when the team literally hasn't had more than one 60 point player on it since 2015? He has a down year and all of the sudden he's terrible and one-dimensional.

I'm not saying he isn't overrated, he probably is. I just don't believe he's as bad as people are starting to say and has something this team hasn't had enough of in too long -- offensive skill.

With someone like Zegras, you have to ask yourself why he’d even be available from a team like Anaheim that’s in the same position that we are in now. Young 22 year old center with a few 60 points seasons yet he’s constantly in trade talks even before the down season. The reason he’s available is because he’s soft as butter and if you have serious aspirations of winning, those aren’t the kind of players you have filling out your roster unless you’re Toronto.

 

[salbutera]

With someone like Zegras, you have to ask yourself why he’d even be available from a team like Anaheim that’s in the same position that we are in now. Young 22 year old center with a few 60 points seasons yet he’s constantly in trade talks even before the down season. The reason he’s available is because he’s soft as butter and if you have serious aspirations of winning, those aren’t the kind of players you have filling out your roster unless you’re Toronto.

I feel better knowing, that his MidFairfield youth hockey coach is the present Habs coach and his teammate at college is the present GMs son

 

[WinterLion]

Some talks about Harris going to Calgary

What would be the ask for Hughes ?

Maybe a young middle six forward who can play soon? A Jake Evans upgrade maybe? Just guessing...