HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[tazsub3]

Pretty sure he is, he’s on pace to break the AHL rookie goal scoring record for defensemen. He’s currently 2nd in total points from a rookie Dman (behind Brandt Clarke), and 9 overall among all defensemen. He’s a big guy, plays a physical game and a right handed shot to boot.

I don’t know what more you could want from a rookie prospect.

But wait he must be trash cause he shared pictures and was lynched while the nhl let suspected gang rappist flourish in its league .
Just writing this made realize once again what a shitty world pro sport is !
Ps I think what he did is a crime but not all crime created equal

 

[Captain Mountain]

There 3 pts off but there also 3 team in front of them and they are currently 10th… they moved Lindholm, they will sell a couple of other player.
The don’t have many interesting prospects… I be happy if they aren’t but if I’m them losing my pick I prefer to keep a near top 10 pick and give us Florida pick instead also better to start tanking for 2026 and grab what might be the best player since McDavid.

I don't really care about interesting prospects, I care about who they have graduating soon/could be graduating. And you could do a whole lot worse than Zary, Pelletier, Coronato and Wolf.

Look, for all the issues they have, their goal differential is almost even, they have a decent group of veterans and a ton of cap space and trade assets. It depends on which way they go with Hanifin, but there's enough there to compete for a playoff spot. A lineup of:

Zary-Kadri-x
Huberdeau-Sharangovich-Kuzmenko
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman

Weegar-Andersson

Markstrom
Wolf

with over 24 million in cap space, excess picks and prospects (from the Lindholm and Tanev trades) and either Hanifin or extra trade assets is more than enough to be better than a bottom 10 team.

And what you or I would do in their position has little bearing on what they're actually going to do, and it sure sounds like they're looking to do a retool instead of a rebuild. Which makes sense because even looking more rebuild isn't a guarantee that you'll finish in the bottom 10 - see the Flyers.

 

[Sagikev]

Define A level D prospect? Hedman, Makar? No he ain’t that, no one trades those types

If Grade A prospects are norris winning players, then there are like... 3 grade A prospects lol

 

[DAChampion]

It would hurt for the Habs to lose Mailloux.

 

[vokiel]

It would hurt for the Habs to lose Mailloux.

You don't think they could find another dmen with big slapper?

 

[Sorinth]

It would hurt for the Habs to lose Mailloux.

He's a good prospect no doubt but he's a guy we can probably also afford to take the hit and lose. And he's such a boom or bust kind of guy that it's not even like keeping him is a sure thing that we don't lose anyways.

Having Mailloux, Barron, and Hutson in the same lineup is likely going to be tough unless one of them ends up much better defensively then current expectations/projetions and/or can produce excellent numbers without PP time. Now it's fair to say that we should trade Barron and keep Mailloux in that numbers game, but that's also why Mailloux might get you that star player and Barron wouldn't.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

He's a good prospect no doubt but he's a guy we can probably also afford to take the hit and lose. And he's such a boom or bust kind of guy that it's not even like keeping him is a sure thing that we don't lose anyways.

Having Mailloux, Barron, and Hutson in the same lineup is likely going to be tough unless one of them ends up much better defensively then current expectations/projetions and/or can produce excellent numbers without PP time. Now it's fair to say that we should trade Barron and keep Mailloux in that numbers game, but that's also why Mailloux might get you that star player and Barron wouldn't.

Trade Barron for a forward in a similar spot.

 

[Sorinth]

Trade Barron for a forward in a similar spot.

If the other team wants Mailloux then they probably won't settle for Barron, they'll just say no and find another team who is willing to trade a Mailloux level prospect.

 

[DAChampion]

You don't think they could find another dmen with big slapper?

It won't be easy.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If the other team wants Mailloux then they probably won't settle for Barron, they'll just say no and find another team who is willing to trade a Mailloux level prospect.

I'm not saying offer them Barron instead, I'm saying just trade Barron.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

You don't think they could find another dmen with big slapper?

last time i saw a defenseman slapshot was in 2022

 

[calder candidate]

I don't really care about interesting prospects, I care about who they have graduating soon/could be graduating. And you could do a whole lot worse than Zary, Pelletier, Coronato and Wolf.

Look, for all the issues they have, their goal differential is almost even, they have a decent group of veterans and a ton of cap space and trade assets. It depends on which way they go with Hanifin, but there's enough there to compete for a playoff spot. A lineup of:

Zary-Kadri-x
Huberdeau-Sharangovich-Kuzmenko
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman

Weegar-Andersson

Markstrom
Wolf

with over 24 million in cap space, excess picks and prospects (from the Lindholm and Tanev trades) and either Hanifin or extra trade assets is more than enough to be better than a bottom 10 team.

And what you or I would do in their position has little bearing on what they're actually going to do, and it sure sounds like they're looking to do a retool instead of a rebuild. Which makes sense because even looking more rebuild isn't a guarantee that you'll finish in the bottom 10 - see the Flyers.

Are these veterans going to be better next year?
If their trading away Tanev and Hanifin will they be putting a better team on the ice next year? Who are the good UFA and how many of them will be looking to sign in Calgary?
They are currently 10th you can you at all the positive you can also look at all they other team around them and think these could also improve next year?
MTL should be better
BUF, OTT both were expected to do better
MIN, ARZ, SEA could also get better

I don't think they will finish last but I pretty convince that they aren't a playoff team either, they are very likely to finish between 7 and 13, regarless of what the planis, if we get to the TDL and the are fighting for 11, 12 or 13th pretty sure that tanking to10th and giving Florida pick instead of their own will be option they consider.

 

[Sorinth]

I'm not saying offer them Barron instead, I'm saying just trade Barron.

Well you likely aren't getting a top-6 F if Barron is the main piece of a trade. So it's unlikely to actually make the team better and I'm not sure trading Barron just to make room makes much sense.

 

[vokiel]

Lighting losing Sergachev: Matheson to Tampa for a Thunderous ransom!

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Well you likely aren't getting a top-6 F if Barron is the main piece of a trade. So it's unlikely to actually make the team better and I'm not sure trading Barron just to make room makes much sense.

Then you aren't getting one for Mailloux either. if you are trading Mailloux it's because you don't think he will better than Barron. If you think he can be decent defensively then his offense makes him untouchable.

 

[Sorinth]

Then you aren't getting one for Mailloux either. if you are trading Mailloux it's because you don't think he will better than Barron. If you think he can be decent defensively then his offense makes him untouchable.

Sorry but that's complete BS. It's not about whose going to be better and trading only the worst ones. Doing that will lead you nowhere because to get value in a trade you more often then not need to give up value. And sometimes that means keeping the worse player and trading the better one because it's the only way to get the return that you actually need, in this case a top-6 F.

 

[red devil]

 

[StCaufield]

When we trade Savard I think we should model it around something like the Dach trade. If we could add a high pick to the deal and get a good young forward who needs a change would you do that? We have so many picks I figure being aggressive would be a good gamble. Any thoughts on who you’d target?

 

[WinterLion]

Lighting losing Sergachev: Matheson to Tampa for a Thunderous ransom!

Yeah I think they still have their 1st for 2029...

 

[1909]

That three goalies' carousel is the worst thing that HuGo could go with. Primeau should had been put on waivers right after the Camp. 75% chances he would not had been taken, and he would have started in Laval.

 

[themilosh]

You find it hard to believe that a team hasn't offered a 1st for David Savard a month before the tdl? What

Most likely he doesn't return a 1st at the tdl. I'm expecting a similar package to what we got for Scandella if we trade Savard (a 2nd and 4th).

Monahan was a slam dunk to return a 1st. The circumstances would have to be very good for Savard to return 1st.

Savard is now worth a 1st in lieu of Sergechev season ending injury tonight.

 

[HuGort]

Allen contract making him hard to move. He'd already been gone but bad contract. Near 4 million for a backup is steep.

Lighting losing Sergachev: Matheson to Tampa for a Thunderous ransom!

Lol. Tampa hasn't got much to give up. Lightning have heavily mortgaged their future. Their farm system is one of worst in league and no top pick until 2026.

 

[Scotianhab]

Agreed

Allen contract making him hard to move. He'd already been gone but bad contract. Near 4 million for a backup is steep.


Lol. Tampa hasn't got much to give up. Lightning have heavily mortgaged their future. Their farm system is one of worst in league and no top pick until 2026.

Agreed the Lightning are bad trade partners. They have no high picks, their farm is one of the worse. Rather explore other options if possible

 

[durojean]

MSL coached him at MidFairfield, & Hughes knows him well

I assume that a deal would only happens because both are familiar with the player

PLus, while still probably good, Zegras value is at a point where if he puts it together, he ll come at a bargain.

 

[Miller Time]

Well you likely aren't getting a top-6 F if Barron is the main piece of a trade. So it's unlikely to actually make the team better and I'm not sure trading Barron just to make room makes much sense.

I would say unequivocally that trading Barron "just to make room" would be a terrible decision... & One that I doubt is on KHs radar.

Barring trades, Matheson, Savard & Guhle are locks, leaving Xhekaj, Barron, Kovacevic & Barron rounding out the top 7 next fall.

Hutson, Mailloux & Strubble are all waiver exempt next year and injuries are inevitable. All 3 can start the season in Laval until injury or trade opens up a spot. Perhaps not ideal if any of them make it beyond a doubt that they are in the top 4 of the available Habs d group... But that's a good problem to have, not one you start dumping assets for.

KH will find a deal he likes... There's bound to be a lot of player movement this summer given the big cap increase.