HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[sampollock]

Reinhart will not leave a top contending team in a tax free state to pay high taxes on a non contender if he does he will sign with his hometown Canucks.....better chance to get top 6 talent in a trade like for Meier who has been awful this year but is still just 27 and scored 40 last year.

tax free is the key in all that

Dreger on tsn 1200 says Caps are taking some calls on Edmundson, or there's interest in him

watch the laughs get him

 

[vokiel]

You have to think they will move a D though... right??!?!?

If they don't move Savard maybe it will be Kovacevich?

Barron or Harris goes

 

[Canadiens98]

If we are going to retain 50%, why would 1 playoff run with Savard be more valuable than 2? I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes is asking for a 1st in next years draft which is stronger as an asking price since I find it hard to believe a team hasn't offered a 1st for this year's draft.

In my opinion it's simply due to his age - Uncertainty as to whether there will be a drop off next season. Turning 34 this year and sacrificing his body every game, you never know when that'll catch up to him. If his contract was expiring at the end of this season I have no doubt in my mind we'd get a 1st + more for him.

 

[Habs Icing]

Savard will return a 1st+. He right shot, good defensively, low cap hit, has a ring. Plus having decent year offensively.

What the eff happened to Lebrun. Is he taking lessons from Dreger?

Lebrun: the Habs are not looking to trade Savard but if a team makes a good offer they will. He's right no matter what happens.

 

[Rapala]

Barron or Harris goes

They haven't given up on Barron and he was sent back because they feel there is more to him.
Harris on the other hand is who he is and has little upside IMO other than gaining experience.

 

[Bacchus1]

What the eff happened to Lebrun. Is he taking lessons from Dreger?

Lebrun: the Habs are not looking to trade Savard but if a team makes a good offer they will. He's right no matter what happens.

Having a veteran player who is good in the room and sets a positive expectation is gold. If Savard is that, then great. We have a young team and we don’t want to have negative influences and expectations that leads to another Galchenyuk era.

 

[Habs Icing]

Axel Jonsson-Fjallby on waivers, great on PK, very fast, do we take a flyer?​

I thought he was a Jet.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Axel Jonsson-Fjallby on waivers, great on PK, very fast, do we take a flyer?​

He's on waivers every year. We’ll pass per usual.

 

[Bacchus1]

Saw this article about trading Allen for Campbell for a 1st.

NHL Notebook: Is Jake Allen a fit for the Oilers, and news on the Coyotes’ future ‘days or weeks’ away

The Edmonton Oilers' turnaround this year has been significant. From o...

oilersnation.com

To me that sounds WAY TOO LITTLE. I’d want a 1st, a very good prospect or two, and maybe another pick.

Allen is probably worth their 2nd, taking Campbell is at least worth a 1st, and saving their butts at the last minute is priceless. They could make some noise in the playoffs if they have their goalie situation solved.

I would take Holloway (if injuries aren’t a concern) or Broberg (i could see him break out in a new environment).

 

[vokiel]

They haven't given up on Barron and he was sent back because they feel there is more to him.
Harris on the other hand is who he is and has little upside IMO other than gaining experience.

I don't care. They are both bottom pairing, if we need to fit in Hutson and/or Reinbacher, they are gone. I'd rather keep Arber. They'll keep both their local vets and so that leaves very little room to no room at all for them.

 

[LaP]

Axel Jonsson-Fjallby on waivers, great on PK, very fast, do we take a flyer?​

No. Type of journeyman who risk having a career year giving it all since it would likely be his last chance. Been there done that you don't want this type of last chance journeyman in your lineup.

 

[Habs Icing]

Reinhart is a good player but he's benefited from playing on a good powerplay in Florida and 52% of his goals the last 3 years were on the powerplay. He has also spent a lot of time with Barkov at ES which also inflates his point totals and his shooting % is 28% which is unsustainable.

Similar to Huberdeau, he will get overpaid for his UFA years based on these point totals and I'd rather not be the team that does it.

I'm not saying we should get Reinhart, although I wanted him on the Habs a few years ago but your reasons for not getting him don't quite make the grade for me.
1) What does it matter where he scores his goals? Are PP goals worth less than ES?
2) Reinhart has 14 more points than Barkov. Explain to me how Barkov is inflating Reinhart's points.

 

[Mr Bop]

I get the sneaky suspicion there’s a deal coming for Armia , will undoubtedly need retention

That would be great. He got 19 minutes of ice time last night, they are certainly showcasing him haha. I'd say his play this year has been a lot better than last year. There may be some value there, maybe a 3rd?

 

[Zilo44]

Zegras vs Mailloux + 2024 1st Winnipeg

That’s my prediction

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Zegras vs Mailloux + 2024 1st Winnipeg

That’s my prediction

Would you trade Caufield for a late 1st and B prospect ?

And Z has more value then CC

 

[Captain Mountain]

Sam Reinhart is having quite a season and is UfA at the end of the season. Would you give him a $9M 7 year contract (until 35) ? After this year I’m done with the rebuilt and would love to get back in the playoff but we desperately need top 6 talent.

Caufield Suzuki Slaf
Newhoook Dach Reinhart
Armia Dvorak Anderson
RHP/Yloven Evans Gallagher

I think Florida would be extremely lucky to get Reinhart at that contract. You're probably looking at something around Huberdeau's AAV if you want to get him on the free agent market.

I also wish people could just decide that a rebuild is done like that, but it doesn't work that way.

Saw this article about trading Allen for Campbell for a 1st.

NHL Notebook: Is Jake Allen a fit for the Oilers, and news on the Coyotes’ future ‘days or weeks’ away

The Edmonton Oilers' turnaround this year has been significant. From o...

oilersnation.com

To me that sounds WAY TOO LITTLE. I’d want a 1st, a very good prospect or two, and maybe another pick.

Allen is probably worth their 2nd, taking Campbell is at least worth a 1st, and saving their butts at the last minute is priceless. They could make some noise in the playoffs if they have their goalie situation solved.

I would take Holloway (if injuries aren’t a concern) or Broberg (i could see him break out in a new environment).

That's not what the article said. And its referencing an article about teams that may have interest in Allen, not what he could go for.

 

[Colezuki]

Zegras vs Mailloux + 2024 1st Winnipeg

That’s my prediction

WPG 1st, the CGY 1st and one of Harris/Struble is mine

 

[salbutera]

WPG 1st, the CGY 1st and one of Harris/Struble is mine

It’ll cost a 9-12OA pick for Ana to move Zegras… so basically Habs own 1st rounder

 

[The Great Weal]

Would you trade Caufield for a late 1st and B prospect ?

And Z has more value then CC

No he doesn’t and Mailloux isn’t a b prospect

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

No he doesn’t and Mailloux isn’t a b prospect

Z is a better player then Caufield always has been and Mailloux aint a A level prospect

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

I'm not saying we should get Reinhart, although I wanted him on the Habs a few years ago but your reasons for not getting him don't quite make the grade for me.
1) What does it matter where he scores his goals? Are PP goals worth less than ES?
2) Reinhart has 14 more points than Barkov. Explain to me how Barkov is inflating Reinhart's points.

1 - It doesn't matter where goals are scored, the point is he isn't scoring nearly as many goals on the powerplay here or on most other teams. He's on a strong PP with Barkov, Verhaege, Tkachuk and Montour, which greatly benefits his goal totals. Huberdeau's last year in Florida he had 38 points on the powerplay, since leaving he has 22 powerplay points in 128 games.

2 - Reinhart has 0.68 PPG at even strength, while Barkov also has 0.68 PPG at even strength. Reinhart has played more games and has had more production on the PP.

 

[sampollock]

Z is a better player then Caufield always has been and Mailloux aint a A level prospect

CC is going no where

Zegras is interesting, but if they want the farm, which they will.. KH wont go there

 

[calder candidate]

For me Pettersson is the target.

Anyone pushing against the idea of targeting a 100 point player is out to lunch. He's only turning 26 next November.

But, I don't see Van letting him get away.

It not even likely that Pettersson would sign OS, he might use it to negotiate but signing OS would be is last resort and even if he does VAN would match regardless of the offer it your be a 7 year deal max which might be better for VAN, Since he would likely be negotiating very similar AAV on a 8 year deal with VAN…

 

[LaP]

Z is a better player then Caufield always has been and Mailloux aint a A level prospect

Offensively yeah i guess. But the rest of Zegras' game is extremely unpolished which for a center is extremely problematic. He'll be 23 soon he doesn't have 5 years to polish it. I would not trade a top 10 pick for him personally.

 

[LaP]

It not even likely that Pettersson would sign OS, he might use it to negotiate but signing OS would be is last resort and even if he does VAN would match regardless of the offer it your be a 7 year deal max which might be better for VAN, Since he would likely be negotiating very similar AAV on a 8 year deal with VAN…

Sadly for Vancouver MB is not a GM anymore so it's very unlikely EP receives a 8 millions for 5 years OS.