HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[DAChampion]

Why?
They just lost their 3C for the season. Wouldn't they want him more?

The rumour is that their GM, Drury, is cheap. He's not willing to give up a 1st or a good prospect to improve his team's odds in the playoffs.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Hope not booze or dope

He's gone for mental health issues.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

The rumour is that their GM, Drury, is cheap. He's not willing to give up a 1st or a good prospect to improve his team's odds in the playoffs.

Which is kind of stupid because they should be in win now mode. Panarin is running that team, and he's not getting any younger. I can understand not giving up Perreault, but their 1st should be in play this year. It's not as deep as a draft as 2023 was, which was one of the deeper 1st rounds in a long time.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

The rumour is that their GM, Drury, is cheap. He's not willing to give up a 1st or a good prospect to improve his team's odds in the playoffs.

Drury definitely is not cheap - In his two trade deadlines Drury traded a first for Copp 2 years ago, then last year traded a first for Tarasenko and a 2nd which could've been a first for Kane if they made the ECF.

The Rangers are in win now mode so I'd be surprised if Drury doesn't try and make a big trade given how wide open things are this year.

 

[Andy]

I find it silly that contending teams are so cheap.

Pens, Caps, Hawks, Kings, Bolts traded assets to fill their holes. I bet none of those teams regret those trades.

Cup windows only stay open for so long. Even when I think about teams like the blues, they probably don't win the cup unless the make trades for O'Reiley, Schenn, Bouwmeester.

 

[salbutera]

The rumour is that their GM, Drury, is cheap. He's not willing to give up a 1st or a good prospect to improve his team's odds in the playoffs.

I believe that was Larry Brooks’ personal take…

 

[salbutera]

I find it silly that contending teams are so cheap.

Pens, Caps, Hawks, Kings, Bolts traded assets to fill their holes. I bet none of those teams regret those trades.

Cup windows only stay open for so long. Even when I think about teams like the blues, they probably don't win the cup unless the make trades for O'Reiley, Schenn, Bouwmeester.

Not sure how much this plays into things … but there’s been chatter owners want waiver pickups, in-season trades abolished as a means of further cost savings, since executing either type of transaction is out of pocket co$t that needs to be paid for by teams. Friedman & Marek have talked about it, Dregs & Ferraro have as well, Biz Nasty made a sly remark about it on Spittin Chicklets a few weeks back

 

[Andy]

Not sure how much this plays into things … but there’s been chatter owners want waiver pickups, in-season trades abolished as a means of further cost savings, since executing either type of transaction is out of pocket co$t that needs to be paid for. Friedman & Marek have talked about it, Dregs & Ferraro have as well

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard



Also side note:
I don't understand the NYR logic:

They don't want to trade big assets because their forward core is older and will need some youth injection. But at the same time, they only have a cup window because of that older forward core.

It's sounds like MB thinking where you just end up in no man's land.

 

[SwiftyHab]

I find it silly that contending teams are so cheap.

Pens, Caps, Hawks, Kings, Bolts traded assets to fill their holes. I bet none of those teams regret those trades.

Cup windows only stay open for so long. Even when I think about teams like the blues, they probably don't win the cup unless the make trades for O'Reiley, Schenn, Bouwmeester.

Contending teams are not going to say that you can have whatever you want 5 weeks before the trade deadline. Theyre going to hum and haw until the players they need are just about out the door and then theyre going to pony up. And i dont know about you but I want a few of those damn ponys!

 

[salbutera]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard



Also side note:
I don't understand the NYR logic:

They don't want to trade big assets because their forward core is older and will need some youth injection. But at the same time, they only have a cup window because of that older forward core.

It's sounds like MB thinking where you just end up in no man's land.

Or it could simply be a case of playing possum, putting the word out there of no interest and waiting to pounce at the right time. Almost every contender is up against the cap & looking for ways to make space

Who knows… either way I get the feel owners are more & more focused on cost savings and holding a gun to their GMs heads

 

[Hins77]

I find it silly that contending teams are so cheap.

Pens, Caps, Hawks, Kings, Bolts traded assets to fill their holes. I bet none of those teams regret those trades.

Cup windows only stay open for so long. Even when I think about teams like the blues, they probably don't win the cup unless the make trades for O'Reiley, Schenn, Bouwmeester.

Teams are cheap, but the closer we are going to be from the Deadline, more the market is gonna be for sellers. Buyers teams don’t want to give asset right now to the risk that the player get a major injury. They don’t want to burn asset for nothing. The closer you get the player at rhe deadline. The closer you are from the playoff, so less of injury. And once a buyers team get a big fish, others team will counter react and will be willing to pay more

 

[Adam Michaels]

Man could Habs use a guy like Kaliyev in their Top-6/Top-9.

 

[sampollock]

What other options were you hoping for?

Mental health

 

[Captain Mountain]

The rumour is that their GM, Drury, is cheap. He's not willing to give up a 1st or a good prospect to improve his team's odds in the playoffs.

He traded 1sts for Tarasenko and Copp (was a condition). and the 2nd moved for Kane could have become a 1st as well.

If its a rumour, then it doesn't match his history.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Man could Habs use a guy like Kaliyev in their Top-6/Top-9.

They had one.. Mike Hoffman. Don't think they wanna do that again.

 

[salbutera]

Man could Habs use a guy like Kaliyev in their Top-6/Top-9.

Depth player w edge huh? Would LAK want Pearson back who they drafted and know well?

Kaliyev for Pearson + 2/3rd rounder?

 

[Runner77]

Anyone suggesting we trade for Laine needs a med change.

To be fair, those comments happened before it was announced that Laine was entering the Player Assistance Program.

 

[Egresch]

I find it silly that contending teams are so cheap.

Pens, Caps, Hawks, Kings, Bolts traded assets to fill their holes. I bet none of those teams regret those trades.

Cup windows only stay open for so long. Even when I think about teams like the blues, they probably don't win the cup unless the make trades for O'Reiley, Schenn, Bouwmeester.

I agree, especially if you consider that their picks are late 1st which do not really have huge probability of NHL impact player. Caroline is one of examples. They are contender for six seasons, but it seems like they are afraid to take a final risk and find couple more players to elevate their chances. HuGo history with Habs indicates they are not afraid of trades which might be useful in couple years.

 

[26Mats]

“Teams have not only called the Montreal Canadiens about tough defenseman Arber Xhekaj , but some have also presented concrete offers.

In fact, we learn that the Habs have received an offer for a young NHL forward, a former first round pick, with second line potential. Montreal refused. » - David Pagnotta

no way this is true

Why do you think it's not true we've received an offer of a forward who hasn't even established himself as a 2nd liner?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Not sure how much this plays into things … but there’s been chatter owners want waiver pickups, in-season trades abolished as a means of further cost savings, since executing either type of transaction is out of pocket co$t that needs to be paid for by teams. Friedman & Marek have talked about it, Dregs & Ferraro have as well, Biz Nasty made a sly remark about it on Spittin Chicklets a few weeks back

NYR is one of the richest teams in North American sports. That seems more like an Arizona move to me.

 

[Guy Larose]

He traded 1sts for Tarasenko and Copp (was a condition). and the 2nd moved for Kane could have become a 1st as well.

If its a rumour, then it doesn't match his history.

It's one of those things that start in a thread on the main boards by fans, that all of a sudden become rumor or fact. Even Brooks is speculating.

 

[HomaridII]

Depth player w edge huh? Would LAK want Pearson back who they drafted and know well?

Kaliyev for Pearson + 2/3rd rounder?

Gallagher is a better fit lmao

 

[DAChampion]

A team like the Rangers should give up their 1st rounder nearly every single year.

Pittsburgh did it, eventually it paid off.

 

[LaP]

It's mainly draft picks that go at TD these days, and secondary prospects like Barron. Colorado kept their top prospect their cup run year (Olofsson). Tampa's big trade with Nashville last TD was all picks.

At most we're getting a late 1st & secondary prospect. If we're trading with Winnipeg, it's probably 1st & Chaz Lucius.

I doubt we get Lucius and a 1st for Monahan. Would be Lucius and a 2nd or 3rd. If we get a 1st the prospect coming with it will be of lower ceiling someone who project as a depth player at the very best.

A team like the Rangers should give up their 1st rounder nearly every single year.

Pittsburgh did it, eventually it paid off.

Specially since they have a good prospect pool / young players already.

Gabe Perreault, Othmann, Cuylle, Schneider + a young defense. No reason for them to not be all in with their picks.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Man could Habs use a guy like Kaliyev in their Top-6/Top-9.

Pezzetta.

It's fair.