HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

[RationalExpectations]

I really liked Kent Johnson in his draft year. Still only 21 years old but expiring RFA come the end of this season. They have him on their 3rd line this year and he's even spent some time in the minors.

Has produced 14 points in 28 NHL games this year, and 40 in 79 games last year (16 goals).

They may be willing to part ways with him if they can get a good return - If our pick isn't high enough to take one of the top forwards in this draft, wouldn't mind sending that over to Columbus.

Why would CBJ do this ? They would be more likely to make the same trades the Habs are making. They need young players rather than draft picks.

They have Gaudreau Werenski contracts on their books and will need to contend sooner than later.

 

[Canadiens98]

Why would CBJ do this ? They would be more likely to make the same trades the Habs are making. They need young players rather than draft picks.

They have Gaudreau Werenski contracts on their books and will need to contend sooner than later.

My thinking was because they already have Fantili, Sillinger, Chinakhov coupled with Laine and Gaudreau to go with their projected top 5 pick this year. I just thought Kent Johnson would be the odd man out as he's still on their 3rd line and they've sent him to the minors this season

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Very unlikely, but wonder if they would consider moving Rutger McGroarty, American boy, captain of the WJC team, Kent Hughes knows that draft class… hopefully he can pull a Cutter Gauthier and refuse to sign with them. Also, love the name!

No. He's an untouchable.

 

[RationalExpectations]

My thinking was because they already have Fantili, Sillinger, Chinakhov coupled with Laine and Gaudreau to go with their projected top 5 pick this year. I just thought Kent Johnson would be the odd man out as he's still on their 3rd line and they've sent him to the minors this season

Well he has been putting 1.5PPG in the AHL, 0.5 PPG in the NHL. Sillinger has produced less on average at NHL level and does not seem really better than him. He is as young as Roy !

If you think he is not that good then why would you spend a 5-10 OA for him ?

 

[Canadiens98]

Well he has been putting 1.5PPG in the AHL, 0.5 PPG in the NHL. Sillinger has produced less on average at NHL level and does not seem really better than him. He is as young as Roy !

If you think he is not that good then why would you spend a 5-10 OA for him ?

I think that he is good, that's why I suggested trading our 1st for him if we can't select a top forward in the draft. He's averaging under 14 minutes a game so I thought maybe he'd be available

 

[WeThreeKings]

Holtz and Kent Johnson are two candidates for sure.

Not sure if they'd like Kent Johnson but if you had the choice of Zegras or Johnson, Johnson would be the better candidate.

 

[vokiel]

Honestly, I think we have enough picks. I would rather we focus on developing players at all levels, including the NHL. The best way to do that is to have vets on the team. Matheson, Savard and Monahan are too important for us this year. I'd rather we keep them all. I know this is an unpopular opinion.

I don't think it's an entirely unpopular opinion. Everyone knows this is the way, the issue is if you're keeping too many vets around, it's stifles the team's flexibility on making deals using cap space and also limits NHL ice time for the players already playing with a contract. Having lots of contracts limits how many of your draftees you can sign.

The goal should be thinning down the amount of contracts we've got by prioritizing exchanging the medium terms for shorter terms. That also means not extending contracts like Monahan's and trading Allen for anything. I do think we need to keep Savard and Matheson, but that's only because both Hutson and Reinbacher will need seasoning in the AHL.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Hughes has shown that he likes to target those kind of players ( Dach,Newhook ) so possible we see the same happening this offseason specially if we can go get more picks at deadline

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

i agree that we have tons of picks specially when theres a 50 contracts max in the NHL but worst case you trade or package the picks for better players the Habs are stuck with a bunch of okay or good players but no ppg or elite talent in our club or farm and until that changes will be stuck a mediocre club like we have been for years

Not even sure i remember our last ppg player i think it was Kovalev ?

Caufiled, Suzuki. Slafkovsky are likely PPG forwards as would Dach be if he wasn't a glass body. It's not likley any of them are 100 pters though.

Holtz and Kent Johnson are two candidates for sure.

Not sure if they'd like Kent Johnson but if you had the choice of Zegras or Johnson, Johnson would be the better candidate.

Zegras is far more talented. Not sure about his attitude or play. Has anyone here actually watched Ducks games?

 

[jrom]

Would Colby Barlow (Jets) be an interesting trade target ? Winger with some physicality and a good shot, not sure he fits in their window + maybe easier than convincing a team to move a young C.

 

[le_sean]

Would Colby Barlow (Jets) be an interesting trade target ? Winger with some physicality and a good shot, not sure he fits in their window + maybe easier than convincing a team to move a young C.

I think we should target someone younger than 35.

 

[jrom]

I think we should target someone younger than 35.

I get the joke and the reasons why he wasn’t the best choice (with his beard) to use our draft pick on, but with what we have to trade what are potential targets “Dach / Newhook” style ?

I’d rather have old Barlow then a young guy like Alex Turcotte with a longer medical history then most seniors.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think the target from WPG should be their 2nd and Chibrikov.

They aren't gonna move a recent first rounder.. Chibrikov has a lot of offense, is doing well in the AHL, and can help Laval this year while giving us another option of a potential top 6er.

 

[The Great Weal]

I get the joke and the reasons why he wasn’t the best choice (with his beard) to use our draft pick on, but with what we have to trade what are potential targets “Dach / Newhook” style ?

I’d rather have old Barlow then a young guy like Alex Turcotte with a longer medical history then most seniors.

We are already overloaded with wingers and defensemen so unless they are elite players or have elite potential, we are just going to make things more crowded. Getting a center would be nice as Evans belongs on the 4th line and Dvorak sucks, only one we got in the system is Beck.

 

[le_sean]

I get the joke and the reasons why he wasn’t the best choice (with his beard) to use our draft pick on, but with what we have to trade what are potential targets “Dach / Newhook” style ?

I’d rather have old Barlow then a young guy like Alex Turcotte with a longer medical history then most seniors.

I don’t think Barlow should be a target. At least Dach and Newhook were proven NHLers. Colby is having a poor D+1 season. Maybe Alexander Holtz could be an option. Doesn’t seem like Lindy likes him too much.

 

[sampollock]

I think the target from WPG should be their 2nd and Chibrikov.

They aren't gonna move a recent first rounder.. Chibrikov has a lot of offense, is doing well in the AHL, and can help Laval this year while giving us another option of a potential top 6er.

5 Feet high?

 

[WeThreeKings]

5 Feet high?

5'10

 

[TheBuriedHab]

With Guhle excelling on the right trading Savard is a lot more feasible now.

Monahan + Savard (50% retained) should bring back a very good return.

 

[sampollock]

With Guhle excelling on the right trading Savard is a lot more feasible now.

Monahan + Savard (50% retained) should bring back a very good return.

that is what the peg needs

 

[EveryDay]

With Guhle excelling on the right trading Savard is a lot more feasible now.

Monahan + Savard (50% retained) should bring back a very good return.

Honestly, I was not really satisfied with Guhle on the right side, he's handle the puck like a grenade yesterday. I would keep Savard for another season.

 

[FLHabs]

Savard will not removed this trade deadline -- and that's a smart move, IMO.

If Armia plays like like he has recently, until the trade deadline, there will definitely be interest from Cup contenders because of his puck possession game and his ability to kill penalties.

We only have one Cap retention spot left open, though, and that will be a choice between using it on Armia or Allen at this trade deadline.

I'd rather keep Armia than Allen until the end of the season.

Allen leaving will help Primeau's development just from addition by subtraction with more playing time the NHL.

Next year, the two retention spots that we will have back can be used on Dvorak and Savard.

Hopefully, Armia can be traded at full salary during this offseason after a strong finish to the season.

Yea I wouldn't mind keeping Savard as well, he definitely stabilized the defense a bit even though he's slow as molasse hehe.

In terms of the last cap retention spot, I think I'd use it on the Armia contract to really maximize his return. His value could be much higher than Allen comes TDL, but I guess it all depends on how it all plays out.

One thing for sure is that I'd rather have a really good return for Armia and a mediocre one for Allen VS 2 ok returns for both, Habs already have lots of draft capital.

 

[Kosseca]

With Guhle excelling on the right trading Savard is a lot more feasible now.

Monahan + Savard (50% retained) should bring back a very good return.

Actually, I think that Guhle being ok on the RD means more Barron being available.

I seems to recall that Kent or Martin said something about next year being a year where the objective would be the playoff. So, that means it will require more firepower upfront now. Trading Savard for picks, wont cut it, you'll need something of bigger value. Now, I'm not saying Savard wont be traded, but I would think that KH would not let him go for a meh return.

All that being said, I think that any swap (D for F) will only take place around the draft. They will want to see if Hutson and Reinb are coming over, and if they do, how they fair. They may also want to see if Xhakaj and Mailloux maintain the pace in the AHL.

 

[Heffyhoof]

The real narrative is whether the Habs are better off w a late 2nd round pick for Monahan vs will the TEAM growth benefit more from having him around in what’s shaping up as a potential run towards competing for a wild card spot

The return for Monahan has to be tangible and meaningful otherwise stay the course

There's the rub, I don't think Hughes will trade him if Montreal is battling for a playoff spot. After all we'll be playing a supposed superiorly talented team in Ottawa that only knows what losing is. I'd happily give up a 26th-32nd pick to make it less likely our young talent turns into that.

 

[Rapala]

I think the target from WPG should be their 2nd and Chibrikov.

They aren't gonna move a recent first rounder.. Chibrikov has a lot of offense, is doing well in the AHL, and can help Laval this year while giving us another option of a potential top 6er.

I liked Chibrikov better than Lambert in the recent games against Laval.

 

[yianik]

that is what the peg needs

One stop shopping and at a 50% discount until March 8th.