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HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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Mrb1p said:
Zegras doesnt fit our core, hes soft, hes unidimensional and hes another pass first player that doesn't shoot enough.


And I didnt say better value as an asset, Roy should be a 50-60 points winger that brings good defensive awareness and scores goals, Zegras is a soft unidimensional perimeter vanilla 60 points player.
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It can't be understated how determined Joshua Roy is to become a good NHL player along with upper tier hockey sense.
 
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Still an overpayment. After 20 games the upside Jayden Struble is demontrating is simply too much to trade. Roy might become as good as Zegras and Calgary 1st pick is something you should keep.
What has Zegras accomplished to garner such a return? I don't get it
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Its a negociation right. You start with a smaller offer and if thats enough great.

Zegras would be the most talented , electric player with had since Kovalev. Best buddy with Caufield, could help him achieve 50 goals.

I like entertaining hockey and that guy is a highlight reel. I think he would thrive under MSL.
Hes a good player so if we want him we would have to offer something interesting.

Lets say you are interested, what would you offer to get him ?
 
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Tyson said:
It can't be understated how determined Joshua Roy is to become a good NHL player along with upper tier hockey sense.
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Hughes interview the other day wasn't exactly glowing reviews over him tbh...he needs to learn to be much more consistent before he is considered an NHL player, never mind a 50-60 point one.

I'd part with him before Struble.
 
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McGees said:
Hughes interview the other day wasn't exactly glowing reviews over him tbh...he needs to learn to be much more consistent before he is considered an NHL player, never mind a 50-60 point one.

I'd part with him before Struble.
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I would give Roy 2 seasons in the A then see where he is, way too early to ship him off imo.
 
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Anaheim is looking for a top 4 2 -way D and Montreal is starving for offensive talent. Seems to me there is a deal to be made here. Xhekaj, Struble, Harris could all be used as pieces that could be used to get Zegras. Only issue Is I’m pretty sure Anaheim ask for Guhle, to which I think MTL hangs up the phone.

I think Xhekaj + pick for Zegras is close.
 
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Pat Riot said:
Its a negociation right. You start with a smaller offer and if thats enough great.

Zegras would be the most talented , electric player with had since Kovalev. Best buddy with Caufield, could help him achieve 50 goals.

I like entertaining hockey and that guy is a highlight reel. I think he would thrive under MSL.
Hes a good player so if we want him we would have to offer something interesting.

Lets say you are interested, what would you offer to get him ?
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If I was interested I would not offer any D because Anaheim is loaded with quality D prospects.
Maybe a 1st round pick and a prospect like Sean Farrell.
I don't hold Zegras in high regards, I think he is mostly hype with decent skills.

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Anaheim is looking for a top 4 2 -way D and Montreal is starving for offensive talent. Seems to me there is a deal to be made here. Xhekaj, Struble, Harris could all be used as pieces that could be used to get Zegras. Only issue Is I’m pretty sure Anaheim ask for Guhle, to which I think MTL hangs up the phone.

I think Xhekaj + pick for Zegras is close.
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Name another D prospect like Xhekaj anywhere in the league? Every GM would want him.
If I trade Xhekaj it will be for a heck of alot more than Trevor Zegras. What am I not seeing?
 
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Corky said:
Anaheim is looking for a top 4 2 -way D and Montreal is starving for offensive talent. Seems to me there is a deal to be made here. Xhekaj, Struble, Harris could all be used as pieces that could be used to get Zegras. Only issue Is I’m pretty sure Anaheim ask for Guhle, to which I think MTL hangs up the phone.

I think Xhekaj + pick for Zegras is close.
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If possible I would like to hang on Xhekaj. I would prefer to trade Stubble or Harris even if it mean we have to add more picks to get the deal done. I see the pair of Xhekaj and Mailloux terrorizing the other team for many year to come. We need to be a tough team to play against

Like you said Guhle would be a deal breaker
Tyson said:
If I was interested I would not offer any D because Anaheim is loaded with quality D prospects.
Maybe a 1st round pick and a prospect like Sean Farrell.
I don't hold Zegras in high regards, I think he is mostly hype with decent skills.


Name another D prospect like Xhekaj anywhere in the league? Every GM would want him.
If I trade Xhekaj it will be for a heck of alot more than Trevor Zegras. What am I not seeing?
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Yeah we dont see the same thing if you value more Roy than Zegras. Its wild IMO. A proven commodity vs a big question mark. I wouldnt hesitate to trade him but honestly I dont think Roy value is very high
 
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Mrb1p said:
Zegras doesnt fit our core, hes soft, hes unidimensional and hes another pass first player that doesn't shoot enough.


And I didnt say better value as an asset, Roy should be a 50-60 points winger that brings good defensive awareness and scores goals, Zegras is a soft unidimensional perimeter vanilla 60 points player.
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That’s what people said about Caufield and Roy.
 
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That’s what people said about Caufield and Roy.
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Anyway its impossible to have all players being defensive wizard and mean SOB. Zegras would bring something to the table that we are deeply lacking. Some offensive skills and creativity. Maybe our PP would finally be able to produce some goals

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I compare Roy to Bourque. This year he is leading AHL in scoring. His second season in AHL
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A first round pick versus a 5th round pick. Not comparable at all
 
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English is not my first language. I tought it was clear the way I said it. I will be willing to offer something in theses assets. Not all of then. Its pretty wild to think someone would offer all this players for Zegras. You guys are funny.

I would for sure offer Stubble, Roy and Calgary1st for Zegras.
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Well according to Laraque, he thinks a package of Xhekaj, Hutson and a 1st is not enough to land Zegras 😂
 
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Well according to Laraque, he thinks a package of Xhekaj, Hutson and a 1st is not enough to land Zegras 😂
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Yeah I heard that. I like to listen to Laraque from time to time but sometimes hes wild with his take. Hes making a show. The other dude with him has more of a realistic approach. Anaheim would jump on thay deal if it was offered
 

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English is not my first language. I tought it was clear the way I said it. I will be willing to offer something in theses assets. Not all of then. Its pretty wild to think someone would offer all this players for Zegras. You guys are funny.

I would for sure offer Stubble, Roy and Calgary1st for Zegras.
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Almost.

Harris, Roy and Calgary 1st.
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Xhekaj or Struble, Roy and Montreal 2nd 2024 (high second)

If your package, I would want Zegras retained down to $4.0M
 
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If he's traded at the draft I would honestly wait and see who's available at our pick (even if we're not trading our 2024 1st in the package). If we can draft Catton/Eiserman/Demidov, then it's not worth giving up assets for Zegras. If we pick later and get Nygard, it's a different story.
 
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Youd have to include a salary in any Zegras trade imo. Thats why I see Anderson as a logical player to put in any packages for him. ANA seems to put a lot of value in big players and they probably want to take another step in the coming years by adding veterans like Killorn or Gudas (and it that case Anderson).

I think a fair trade considering the question marks around Zegras but also his skillset would be something like Anderson + our top 10 protect first in 2024 + Barron (because they need RHD) OR Struble (they could use solid young defensive D). Any trade with more value than that wouldnt be worth it for us and to even think about including guys like Guhle, David or Hutson (or even Xhekaj) in this trade is crazy to me.
 
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Pat Riot said:
If possible I would like to hang on Xhekaj. I would prefer to trade Stubble or Harris even if it mean we have to add more picks to get the deal done. I see the pair of Xhekaj and Mailloux terrorizing the other team for many year to come. We need to be a tough team to play against

Like you said Guhle would be a deal breaker


Yeah we dont see the same thing if you value more Roy than Zegras. Its wild IMO. A proven commodity vs a big question mark. I wouldnt hesitate to trade him but honestly I dont think Roy value is very high
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Let's give it a year and circle back. I may have to admit to being wrong.
 
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