HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #86: 2023-2024 Season

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The only reasons why Zegras might work in MTL are that there's good leadership in the room, CC is his buddy so he'll be invested, and MSL is an offensive minded guy so he wouldn't be stifled. I think if we were relying on Zegras to be the guy then it would be a disaster, but if he's just an offensive weapon amongst a good core then it could work. He could be the patrick Kane in our group
 
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Zegras seems like the type of player you acquire when your team sucks, like now to put butts in the seats.

Then in 2 years you package him with other assets to get a better player.

Though, that depends on the cost at this point.
Putting butts in seats is not an issue here so unless you see him as a core piece you take a hard pass. Not going to give up assets for a short term project.
 
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Putting butts in seats is not an issue here so unless you see him a a core piece you take a hard pass. Not going to give up assets for a short term project.
I don't know, shit seems emptier than normal.

He's a skilled player, probably the most natural skill the Habs would have since Kovalev.

The main issue, or issues is that he's soft, weak and makes a somewhat small top6/9 even more weak/soft, but more skilled.
 

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But then there is ridiculous. You trade Xhekaj for Zegras 100 times out of 100. Not that the Ducks would do it. They would laugh at HuGo. I would trade a late 1sst and Xhekaj although I'd try to get them to take another player like Barron or Kidney.
If you would trade jackeye,and 1st for Zegras Verbeek would personally drive him to the airport
 

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I agree Zegras seems more flashy than efficient on a cup run. That being said the same was said about Eichel and he was a key piece to VGK success. On the other hand Dubois seemed to have everything to be a very useful top 6 two way forward, with great physicality and he now seems to be quite a diva. Maybe Zegras can change his game like eichel
Eichel is on a whole other level than Trevor Zegras....you take a serious chance of getting absolutely fleeced trading for Zegras.

If you would trade jackeye,and 1st for Zegras Verbeek would personally drive him to the airport
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While unidimensional, soft and somewhat lacking defensively, Zegras is still a good player who produces a lot.

The problem with potentially acquiring him is one of cost of opportunity; it would cost the Habs a lot in terms of assets and those assets could not be used for more pressing needs

In terms of roster construction, a puck hound second liner with size, grit and a strong cycle game is much more of a need. Hell, even the third liner equivalent of this is a bigger need than Zegras' profile
 
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All depends on where the 1st is. If it is mid round Verbeek would not do it. If it is top 8, say, he might but I wouldn't offer it and neither would Hughes.
The promise of a new shiny thing is almost always greater than the older new less shiny thing. It’s human nature. No one is trading their top 10 pick for Zegras just like they didn’t for Gauthier last year.
 
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I don't know, shit seems emptier than normal.

He's a skilled player, probably the most natural skill the Habs would have since Kovalev.

The main issue, or issues is that he's soft, weak and makes a somewhat small top6/9 even more weak/soft, but more skilled.
The tickets are sold and that is the bottom line.
 

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All depends on where the 1st is. If it is mid round Verbeek would not do it. If it is top 8, say, he might but I wouldn't offer it and neither would Hughes.
You must not think too much of Jackeye and too much of Zegras.If Zegras was as good as you think he is they wouldn't be trying to trade him.You put Jackeye up for trade and every GM in the NHL would be calling.
 
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I don't know, shit seems emptier than normal.

He's a skilled player, probably the most natural skill the Habs would have since Kovalev.

The main issue, or issues is that he's soft, weak and makes a somewhat small top6/9 even more weak/soft, but more skilled.
Suzuki is more skilled than Zegras. He produces more with less support and while being the two way cornerstone of this team. Zegras wishes he could whip it out like Suzer.
 

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Pass on Zegras, unless his value is low which I'm assuming it's not. He's shown offensive ability even if he's struggling this year but I just don't think he's the missing piece. Montreal should continue to accumulate assets, staying on Hughes current plan, and be ready to throw everything and the kitchen sink in a trade or FA at a better-than-Suzuki player.
 

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Pass on Zegras, unless his value is low which I'm assuming it's not. He's shown offensive ability even if he's struggling this year but I just don't think he's the missing piece. Montreal should continue to accumulate assets, staying on Hughes current plan, and be ready to throw everything and the kitchen sink in a trade or FA at a better-than-Suzuki player.
A 22 years old player is exactly what Hughes like to add to the current core. Zegras has incredible offensive talent and creativity. I think he would do well under MSL coaching and with the presence of good veterans his attitude should not be a problem. Plus the fact is Caufield best buddy make it more enticing. If Zegras is really available I think we have to go for it.
Not at any price but I will be willing to use any of these assets to get the deal done.

Harris, Strubble, our 1st pick, 1st pick of calgary, Roy, Beck, Mesar.
 

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A 22 years old player is exactly what Hughes like to add to the current core. Zegras has incredible offensive talent and creativity. I think he would do well under MSL coaching and with the presence of good veterans his attitude should not be a problem. Plus the fact is Caufield best buddy make it more enticing. If Zegras is really available I think we have to go for it.
Not at any price but I will be willing to use any of these assets to get the deal done.

Harris, Strubble, our 1st pick, 1st pick of calgary, Roy, Beck, Mesar.
Good grief
 

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Good grief
Sounds like we are trying to acquire Connor McDavid.

A 22 years old player is exactly what Hughes like to add to the current core. Zegras has incredible offensive talent and creativity. I think he would do well under MSL coaching and with the presence of good veterans his attitude should not be a problem. Plus the fact is Caufield best buddy make it more enticing. If Zegras is really available I think we have to go for it.
Not at any price but I will be willing to use any of these assets to get the deal done.

Harris, Strubble, our 1st pick, 1st pick of calgary, Roy, Beck, Mesar.
Yeah let's wipe out our prospect pool instantly for a player who hasn't proven anything
 
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A 22 years old player is exactly what Hughes like to add to the current core. Zegras has incredible offensive talent and creativity. I think he would do well under MSL coaching and with the presence of good veterans his attitude should not be a problem. Plus the fact is Caufield best buddy make it more enticing. If Zegras is really available I think we have to go for it.
Not at any price but I will be willing to use any of these assets to get the deal done.

Harris, Strubble, our 1st pick, 1st pick of calgary, Roy, Beck, Mesar.
Why would we hive all that for Zegras? Unhinged.

Roy is likely to give better value than Zegras as a player, or similar. Then youre giving up the opportunity to draft a guy like Celebrini, Demidov, Catton
, Lindtsrom, Levshunov, Buium or Dickinsom too? Unless its for Beck and Harris or whatever B/C assets you want to give, its a no.
 
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Sounds like we are trying to acquire Connor McDavid.


Yeah let's wipe out our prospect pool instantly for a player who hasn't shown anything
English is not my first language. I tought it was clear the way I said it. I will be willing to offer something in theses assets. Not all of then. Its pretty wild to think someone would offer all this players for Zegras. You guys are funny.

I would for sure offer Stubble, Roy and Calgary1st for Zegras.
 

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Why would we hive all that for Zegras? Unhinged.

Roy is likely to give better value than Zegras as a player, or similar. Then youre giving up the opportunity to draft a guy like Celebrini, Demidov, Catton
, Lindtsrom, Levshunov, Buium or Dickinsom too? Unless its for Beck and Harris or whatever B/C assets you want to give, its a no.
Roy better value than Zegras. Thats being very optimistic. I think you are overevaluating our prospect just a tad. And its nice having draft pick and all but adding 22 years old player that fit with our core its better at this point IMO
 
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English is not my first language. I tought it was clear the way I said it. I will be willing to offer something in theses assets. Not all of then. Its pretty wild to think someone would offer all this players for Zegras. You guys are funny.

I would for sure offer Stubble, Roy and Calgary1st for Zegras.
Still an overpayment. After 20 games the upside Jayden Struble is demontrating is simply too much to trade. Roy might become as good as Zegras and Calgary 1st pick is something you should keep.
What has Zegras accomplished to garner such a return? I don't get it
 

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Roy better value than Zegras. Thats being very optimistic. I think you are overevaluating our prospect just a tad. And its nice having draft pick and all but adding 22 years old player that fit with our core its better at this point IMO
Zegras doesnt fit our core, hes soft, hes unidimensional and hes another pass first player that doesn't shoot enough.


And I didnt say better value as an asset, Roy should be a 50-60 points winger that brings good defensive awareness and scores goals, Zegras is a soft unidimensional perimeter vanilla 60 points player.
 

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A 22 years old player is exactly what Hughes like to add to the current core. Zegras has incredible offensive talent and creativity. I think he would do well under MSL coaching and with the presence of good veterans his attitude should not be a problem. Plus the fact is Caufield best buddy make it more enticing. If Zegras is really available I think we have to go for it.
Not at any price but I will be willing to use any of these assets to get the deal done.

Harris, Strubble, our 1st pick, 1st pick of calgary, Roy, Beck, Mesar.
Montreal has most of a young top-6 with Suzuki, CC, Slaf, Dach, and Newhook. Montreal is likely to draft another projected top-6 player. I'd prefer removing Newhook/Dach (If he's a true band-aid boy) for a player better than our best player, Suzuki.

Also, I'm not too happy with Caufield's attitude and effort this season and don't think adding his best bud whom I feel has issues with attitude and effort is a great idea.
 
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