Is Leon Draisaitl Gonna Break Nathan MacKinnon's Hart?

[Nut Upstrom]

NA journalist will not vote a Euro over a good old Canadian boy unless he is the obvious choice. If its close, the Hart got to Mac.

 

[Avsfan1921]

You’d have to be pretty naive to think a NA journalist is not going to push for their guy regardless of nationality. Canadian media has been, and will forever be, all over the narrative for a member of a Canadian club to win it. Whatever their nationality. Sure, if there are two fighting for it in Canada, (Leon and Connor for example) they may push for the Canadian but if it’s Leon or Connor vs Eichel, or MacKinnon, or any American team they will be all in on the oilers boys, almost unanimously.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I don't really see how you can make a case for Mack over Leon this season.

Mackinnon: 64 games played, 27 goals, 73 assists, 100 points

Draisalt: 63 games played, 46 goals, 49 assists, 95 points..

Matthews won the Hart in 21-22, don't really see how Leon doesn't win it this season.

I mean based on exclusively the data you’re providing:

100 > 95​

Any other brain teasers for us?

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I mean based on exclusively the data you’re providing:

100 > 95​

Any other brain teasers for us?

What were the narrative reasons Mac beat Kuch for it last year?

I seem to recall a combination of more goal+ kuch relied on too many Empty Net points. No?

This year just feels a lot like MacK vs Kuch did last season. I dunno.

 

[JoeSakic13]

What were the narrative reasons Mac beat Kuch for it last year?

I seem to recall a combination of more goal+ kuch relied on too many Empty Net points. No?

This year just feels a lot like MacK vs Kuch did last season. I dunno.

Cherry picking some of the dumber fans on here from last year. Empty Net points shouldn’t be an asterisk stat; if they were so easy then everyone would load up on them.

I for one thought Kucherov was going to win last year because his team would have been a lottery team without him. Posted on here about it several times.

That said, MacK has been the better player and has had more points this year. Is it impossible that Drai wins the Hart? No, but right now it’s Mack’s to lose IMO.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Cherry picking some of the dumber fans on here from last year. Empty Net points shouldn’t be an asterisk stat; if they were so easy then everyone would load up on them.

I for one thought Kucherov was going to win last year because his team would have been a lottery team without him. Posted on here about it several times.

That said, MacK has been the better player and has had more points this year. Is it impossible that Drai wins the Hart? No, but right now it’s Mack’s to lose IMO.

It's not a "better player" award.

The Hart is a narrative award, based on who has the best "story".

Messier won 2 Harts when Lemieux and Gretzky were in their prime.
Taylor Hall won a few years ago.
Jose Theodore won one.

Neither has ever been considered the best player in the world.


So who has the better story this season? Drai or MacK?


Last year the EN points were used to discredit Kucherovs case for the Hart.

 

[JoeSakic13]

It's not a "better player" award.

The Hart is a narrative award, based on who has the best "story".

Messier won 2 Harts when Lemieux and Gretzky were in their prime.
Taylor Hall won a few years ago.
Jose Theodore won one.

Neither has ever been considered the best player in the world.


So who has the better story this season? Drai or MacK?


Last year the EN points were used to discredit Kucherovs case for the Hart.

I think you’re giving the voters way too much credit here.

Didn’t several ballots for all-star teams last year get excluded because they didn’t vote the correct number of players? Not to mention another didn’t get their votes in on time if I remember correctly.

 

[ijuka]

I mean based on exclusively the data you’re providing:

100 > 95​

Any other brain teasers for us?

Considering the difference in empty net points and that MacKinnon's lead in points is solely in secondary assists... You need to have lots of confidence in points specifically, even though both goals and primary points have been proven to be more predictive of team success than plain points.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

rip garth

 

[Studz]

Draisaitl is so good he makes "The best player in the world" the second best player on the team. Pay that man his money!

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Hellebuyck is gonna break both their Harts.

 

[Bank Shot]

Cherry picking some of the dumber fans on here from last year. Empty Net points shouldn’t be an asterisk stat; if they were so easy then everyone would load up on them.

I for one thought Kucherov was going to win last year because his team would have been a lottery team without him. Posted on here about it several times.

That said, MacK has been the better player and has had more points this year. Is it impossible that Drai wins the Hart? No, but right now it’s Mack’s to lose IMO.

It would be pretty typical of the hockey writers association to ignore the exact same arguments they used last year to give the Hart to Mackinnon over Kucherov.

 

[John Mandalorian]

What were the narrative reasons Mac beat Kuch for it last year?

I seem to recall a combination of more goal+ kuch relied on too many Empty Net points. No?

This year just feels a lot like MacK vs Kuch did last season. I dunno.

You’re forgetting that Tampa fans were squawking about MacKinnon having Rantanen.