HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[Nedved]

Why not simply let other team rot with their own mistake?

Only way that i would accept Campbell would be if he is with Draisaitl or McDavid as part of a broader deal.

I would not take Campbell especially not to flip him back for Huberdeau. Who will take more than 10% of the cap and be unproductive, old and declining and for another 7 years. Thats would kill our rebuild and our momentum.

Huberdeau is like us adding Gomez. Not the long term answer for us. We need to build through the draft and it'll take a bit to get where we are going...

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Would EDM trade him for a return that is concomitant with that of a reclamation project? Why would they give him away like that? They’ll probably demand a price based on upside and projectability and if they do, why would anyone pay that?

Maybe, he's on the last year of his ELC , there might be a bit of urgency to at least get something for him. A prospect in a similar situation ( Yolo, Norlinder, Primeau,etc.) might be as good a return they can hope to get.

 

[Destopcorner]

Lets just get Mcdavid or Drai once they turn against their team and ask for a trade.

Suzuki+Slaf+D prospect is my starting offer. Add a couple of first if its Mcdavid.

Can you imagine this guy in a habs jersey?

 

[DAChampion]

Lets just get Mcdavid or Drai once they turn against their team and ask for a trade.

Kidney, Harris, a 2nd, and Gallagher for cap-balancing purposes.

;-)

 

[eklund the clown]

Lets just get Mcdavid or Drai once they turn against their team and ask for a trade.

Suzuki+Slaf+D prospect is my starting offer. Add a couple of first if its Mcdavid.

Can you imagine this guy in a habs jersey?

Last night i dreamed i was sleeping with Charlize Theron

 

[Runner77]

Kidney, Harris, a 2nd, and Gallagher for cap-balancing purposes.

;-)

Kidney, beans.

And with that, a new idiom is born.

 

[Scriptor]

I appreciate the effort. But we are not getting 3x 1st for Monty, Monahan and Matheson, especially their unprotected 1st in 2024.

Its expected that they will not stay 31 in the league. But the record they will need to be in the playoff from now on is ridiculously hard to attain.

Giving a lottery pick like that, wheter its the 2nd best odds or the 12 best odds, for not even a real top goaltender, or a real 1d who will stabilise thing, would be as stupid as drafting holloway above guhle, broberg above caufield, or bourgault above wallstedt.

We're not having the same conversation. Those 1st round picks can all be top-10 protected because the Oilers will make the playoffs -- even this year, despite a rough start -- if they add Monahan, Matheson and Montembeault.

The reason we aren't getting three first round picks is because no GM will be willing to forfeit their first round pick three years in a row. It's bad PR even if EDM could survive losing three first round picks.

Last night i dreamed i was sleeping with Charlize Theron

You're an asshole. You wouldn't move over when I told you to!

 

[BaseballCoach]

No idea if that's enticing to Edmonton, aren't they looking more for goaltending?
Either way, that's a long retention but for dumping Anderson and nabbing a young player + 2nd, I'd take the gamble. Plus last 2nd rounder we got from EDM got us Hutson lol

Not interested in a long retention. Edmonton probably neither.

Gallagher 6.500M until 2027
+ Allen 3.850M until 2025
+ Harris 1.400M until 2025 RFA
vs
Campbell 5.000M until 2027
+ 2024 1st
+ Foegele 2.750M expiring
+ Holloway ELC expiring

 

[Ezpz]

TBH I would take Huberdeau and a few sweeteners for several cap dumps. Like Huberdeau, Wolf and a first for Gally and Anderson and maybe a goalie. We have 40 mil or something in cap space in two years and every core guy who would command big money basically is locked up already. There's no big money forward coming up in our system, sad to say Slaf will be a 3 mil player. Huberdeau's 115 point season is clearly an outlier in his career, but he's still a good 60-80 point guy who would be our best option to run a PP. Gally and Anderson fit the type of ten-year old system Calgary is trying to play. We literally have zero internal competition to take a spot with Cole and Nick.

 

[DAChampion]

Not interested in a long retention. Edmonton probably neither.

Gallagher 6.500M until 2027
+ Allen 3.850M until 2025
+ Harris 1.400M until 2025 RFA
vs
Campbell 5.000M until 2027
+ 2024 1st
+ Foegele 2.750M expiring
+ Holloway ELC expiring

Congratulations, that's actually not bad.

 

[Runner77]

Congratulations, that's actually not bad.

I guess you’re looking at the broad picture.

In that proposal, I have $8,750,000 outgoing salaries for Calgary.

Compared to $11,750,000 outgoing for the Habs.

 

[DAChampion]

I guess you’re looking at the broad picture.

In that proposal, I have $8,750,000 outgoing salaries for Calgary.

Compared to $11,750,000 outgoing for the Habs.

Where is it?

 

[Jaynki]

TBH I would take Huberdeau and a few sweeteners for several cap dumps. Like Huberdeau, Wolf and a first for Gally and Anderson and maybe a goalie. We have 40 mil or something in cap space in two years and every core guy who would command big money basically is locked up already. There's no big money forward coming up in our system, sad to say Slaf will be a 3 mil player. Huberdeau's 115 point season is clearly an outlier in his career, but he's still a good 60-80 point guy who would be our best option to run a PP. Gally and Anderson fit the type of ten-year old system Calgary is trying to play. We literally have zero internal competition to take a spot with Cole and Nick.

Huberdeau contract will run for five more years, age 33-38, maximum downward decline, when Anderson and Gallagher will expire.

We can make better use of this, ~12% cap space during the last half of Suzuki Caufield than a f***ing declining Huberdeau who will also be a PR mess.

 

[Runner77]

Where is it?

I simply added the salaries in the proposal on both sides.

 

[Ezpz]

Huberdeau contract will run for five more years, age 33-38, maximum downward decline, when Anderson and Gallagher will expire.

We can make better use of this, ~12% cap space during the last half of Suzuki Caufield than a f***ing declining Huberdeau who will also be a PR mess.

It only goes three years beyond Gally and Anderson's contracts. We're going to use that cap space on these two non-factors during the entire time our cap is actually tight anyways, I'd rather gamble on the guy who set the all-time record in assists for LW in a season. I'd rather get Nylander but UFA age is largely 27-28 nowadays so we're bidding on guys out of their prime regardless. That's why I don't want to trade Monahan anyways, we've got no way to replace him as he's already largely on the younger side of the free agent class.

 

[themilosh]

TBH I would take Huberdeau and a few sweeteners for several cap dumps. Like Huberdeau, Wolf and a first for Gally and Anderson and maybe a goalie. We have 40 mil or something in cap space in two years and every core guy who would command big money basically is locked up already. There's no big money forward coming up in our system, sad to say Slaf will be a 3 mil player. Huberdeau's 115 point season is clearly an outlier in his career, but he's still a good 60-80 point guy who would be our best option to run a PP. Gally and Anderson fit the type of ten-year old system Calgary is trying to play. We literally have zero internal competition to take a spot with Cole and Nick.

I wouldn't touch Huberdeau at his salary (and term), it's just a huge headache that would plague the Habs and Press for years - it would be toxic for both him and the fans bc he will never shine here.

 

[Destopcorner]

I wouldn't touch Huberdeau at his salary (and term), it's just a huge headache that would plague the Habs and Press for years - it would be toxic for both him and the fans bc he will never shine here.

True, coming here would be a nightmare for him. Pr disaster and that salary is just...

 

[Kimota]

Bring in Huberdeau(with a lot of salary retained) and Holloway.

 

[Runner77]

Bring in Huberdeau(with a lot of salary retained) and Holloway.

I too am wondering how Huberdeau would handle playing for the Habs as a local.

Yes, he’s a pro but what’s with the lack of intensity under two coaches now?

 

[Kimota]

I too am wondering how Huberdeau would handle playing for the Habs as a local.

Yes, he’s a pro but what’s with the lack of intensity under two coaches now?

Oh shit, you're right. If he cannot handle Calgary, I cannot imagine what might happen in Montreal. It may turn into a Drouin thing. But we lack so much offensive punch, I might be tempted to do it anyway.

Edit: We can make it work, colisse!

 

[morhilane]

I too am wondering how Huberdeau would handle playing for the Habs as a local.

Yes, he’s a pro but what’s with the lack of intensity under two coaches now?

I kinda remember reading that Huberdeau doesn't want to play in Montréal around the time he signed his contract in Calgary. Probably wants to go back in Florida or somewhere in California...

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I too am wondering how Huberdeau would handle playing for the Habs as a local.

Yes, he’s a pro but what’s with the lack of intensity under two coaches now?

He doesn't want to play for the Canadiens.

 

[Scriptor]

Oh shit, you're right. If he cannot handle Calgary, I cannot imagine what might happen in Montreal. It may turn into a Drouin thing. But we lack so much offensive punch, I might be tempted to do it anyway.

Edit: We can make it work, colisse!

I'd be tempted if CAL held back 4M on Huberdeau's contract and took Gallagher off our hands.

Huberdeau - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Roy
Newhook - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Beck - Heineman

 

[eklund the clown]

I have always been a supporter of Anderson but i think it is time for him to pick a trail

 

[HuGo Sham]

some of you are insane. UberDough is a cap killer.. I don't care if the cap is rising. I wouldn't do it for Anderson and Gallagher. That contract is pure radioactivity, and wingers are already declining at 30. no chance i touch that. Let them trade him for gaudreau - dollar in and dollar out and almost equal term