HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #85 - Offseason Editon

[jrom]

I too am wondering how Huberdeau would handle playing for the Habs as a local.

Yes, he’s a pro but what’s with the lack of intensity under two coaches now?

Huberdeau is a party boy that was very happy in FLA with his Ferrari and didn’t want the spotlight of a Canadian market.

Him in MTL (being a Franco & al) is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Sterling Archer]

We could argue though that some of those decision are being made because the owner actually put pressure on the GM to win

That’s very possible but doesn’t change the fact that they shouldn’t be allowed. But certainly, owners egos can be an issue. Bottom line is desperate moves rarely work out, so if you’re in that position, owner or not, GM should be replaced by the owner rather than make a desperate move(s).

 

[Jaynki]

It only goes three years beyond Gally and Anderson's contracts. We're going to use that cap space on these two non-factors during the entire time our cap is actually tight anyways, I'd rather gamble on the guy who set the all-time record in assists for LW in a season.

So you have the blue chip prospect, 19 years old Slafkovsky as a 3M player after his ELC.

But you would "gamble" on 32 years old Huberdeau who just had massive decline in his performance because, with the worst contract league wide because of a record he set two seasons ago?

You are looking in the wrong direction my friend. The one we should "gamble" on is the former, not the latter.

 

[TT1]

I'd be tempted if CAL held back 4M on Huberdeau's contract and took Gallagher off our hands.

Huberdeau - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Roy
Newhook - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Beck - Heineman

ok but then they'd be paying 10.5M for Gallagher?

 

[Scriptor]

ok but then they'd be paying 10.5M for Gallagher?

for less years than Huberdeau's contract and, obviously, that wouldn't be all they would be getting.

 

[Destopcorner]

Not interested in a long retention. Edmonton probably neither.

Gallagher 6.500M until 2027
+ Allen 3.850M until 2025
+ Harris 1.400M until 2025 RFA
vs
Campbell 5.000M until 2027
+ 2024 1st
+ Foegele 2.750M expiring
+ Holloway ELC expiring

This is a pretty good proposal mate. Gally needs to go and we can bury Campbell down the minors. Both are equally bad and its pretty close salary wise adding for Foegele.

First and Holloway for Harris (maybe Kovac?) and Allen is kinda far fetch, I wouldnt be too greedy but its close...

The whole point is solving 3 goalie issues and getting rid of Gallagher contract / roster spot for our soon to be ready prospects.

Time to call Kent.

 

[Ezpz]

So you have the blue chip prospect, 19 years old Slafkovsky as a 3M player after his ELC.

But you would "gamble" on 32 years old Huberdeau who just had massive decline in his performance because, with the worst contract league wide because of a record he set two seasons ago?

You are looking in the wrong direction my friend. The one we should "gamble" on is the former, not the latter.

Which level of hockey except no-NHLer COVID olympics where even many European stars sat out did Slaf show he was an impact player at? Sean Farrell played three less games than him and was only a point behind at the same olympics.

Even pre-seasons, practices, scrimmages, etc, Slaf has never shown any elite skill. Huberdeau was a guy who rose from 2nd round to 3rd overall in a couple of months because we was undeniably talented. I guarantee Slaf would have never sniffed the top 5 if there hadn't been so many league shutdowns during COVID.

Anyway, Slaf's play means he's not even close to getting a raise in the near future. There's no team in the league that would even give him the Kotkaniemi contract right now out of his ELC. He is absolutely going to be bridged at this point.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I have always been a supporter of Anderson but i think it is time for him to pick a trail

He picks a trail.

He picks the same trail every time.

Skate down the wing really fast and hope no one makes you change your trajectory and you might be able to drive to the net.

 

[therocket9]

Huberdeau is a party boy that was very happy in FLA with his Ferrari and didn’t want the spotlight of a Canadian market.

Him in MTL (being a Franco & al) is a recipe for disaster.

If Huberdeau did not want to play in Canada then why did he sign an extension just test the free agent market.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

If Huberdeau did not want to play in Canada then why did he sign an extension just test the free agent market.

Probably because he could never got that contract in free agency. He can always ask for a trade like Dubois does every year.

 

[HuGort]

LOL not one person on this forum has come up with a Calgary or Edmonton proposal that would make sense.

Here's a "brain teaser" problem: Construct a three-way trade proposal for Edmonton, Calgary, and Montreal that helps each team.

Can you do it?

Canadiens trade Allen for Campbell and unprotected first in '24. Montreal three years away from competitive team. Oilers need the 5 million in caproom next three years.

Allen a vet give Oilers depth. Primeau gets his chance in Montreal

 

[HuGort]

TBH I would take Huberdeau and a few sweeteners for several cap dumps. Like Huberdeau, Wolf and a first for Gally and Anderson and maybe a goalie. We have 40 mil or something in cap space in two years and every core guy who would command big money basically is locked up already. There's no big money forward coming up in our system, sad to say Slaf will be a 3 mil player. Huberdeau's 115 point season is clearly an outlier in his career, but he's still a good 60-80 point guy who would be our best option to run a PP. Gally and Anderson fit the type of ten-year old system Calgary is trying to play. We literally have zero internal competition to take a spot with Cole and Nick.

That's quite a gamble to me. Maybe Gallagher and Armia for Huberdeau? Doubt they add sweetener. Try to get them take Price contract maybe?

 

[BaseballCoach]

This is a pretty good proposal mate. Gally needs to go and we can bury Campbell down the minors. Both are equally bad and its pretty close salary wise adding for Foegele.

First and Holloway for Harris (maybe Kovac?) and Allen is kinda far fetch, I wouldnt be too greedy but its close...

The whole point is solving 3 goalie issues and getting rid of Gallagher contract / roster spot for our soon to be ready prospects.

Time to call Kent.

The first and Holloway for Allen and a young cost-controlled roster D may be in our faovur, but the Gallagher for Campbell straight swap is in Edmonton's favour. Foegele is not worth his contract and won't be extended.

Gallagher will play hockey for them and provide leadership and a kick in the pants to some of the floaters.

Campbell is being buried in the minors by us, he is still better than Strauss Mann and can play as 3rd G if we get an injury to either Monty or Primeau. Longer term, we find another option with the tons of cash we have or Fowler arrives. And we gain Holloway and a 1st

 

[ReHabs]

If Huberdeau did not want to play in Canada then why did he sign an extension just test the free agent market.

He got offered an incredible contract and contract structure, there was nothing in the NHL that would beat risking turning that extension down and waiting to hit UFA.

Gallagher will play hockey for them and provide leadership and a kick in the pants to some of the floaters.

Gallagher is not capable of playing hockey consistently and his leadership is irrelevant/worthless. We should know that by now. Intangibles are intangible.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

aint no way we are starting thinking picking Huberdeau , don't we have enough anchor deals already? lmao

 

[Kimota]

I'd be tempted if CAL held back 4M on Huberdeau's contract and took Gallagher off our hands.

Huberdeau - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Roy
Newhook - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Beck - Heineman

I have the feeling it would take Anderson as well.

He got offered an incredible contract and contract structure, there was nothing in the NHL that would beat risking turning that extension down and waiting to hit UFA.


Gallagher is not capable of playing hockey consistently and his leadership is irrelevant/worthless. We should know that by now. Intangibles are intangible.

Well Gally has shown leadership by example of alway giving his all. It's just that his body has fallen. Even recently he has shown more drive than most in the team, especially in his productivity.

 

[themilosh]

I kinda remember reading that Huberdeau doesn't want to play in Montréal around the time he signed his contract in Calgary. Probably wants to go back in Florida or somewhere in California...

Huber is the type of player who will perform splendidly when surrounded by players who do all the heavy lifting for him. The panthers knew this, sold his stock at the highest possible value, and got Tkachuk.. incredible work by Zito..

 

[ReHabs]

Well Gally has shown leadership by example of alway giving his all. It's just that his body has fallen. Even recently he has shown more drive than most in the team, especially in his productivity.

Gallagher's mere presence will not change any NHL roster's fate. I don't mean to come across as callous but it's a bit silly to suggest that Edmonton will get over the hump by having Gallagher around, giving it his all.

With Gallagher in the lineup the Habs have had some catastrophic collapses and dud showings, even the game against Tampa the other night. Intangible intangibles.

 

[nhlfan9191]

aint no way we are starting thinking picking Huberdeau , don't we have enough anchor deals already? lmao

No GM would be stupid enough to take on a contract like that.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

No GM would be stupid enough to take on a contract like that.

Holland is dumb enough trust me

 

[BaseballCoach]

He got offered an incredible contract and contract structure, there was nothing in the NHL that would beat risking turning that extension down and waiting to hit UFA.


Gallagher is not capable of playing hockey consistently and his leadership is irrelevant/worthless. We should know that by now. Intangibles are intangible.

He is playing better than Campbell and Edmonton seems to lack his kind of player in the locker room. They may appreciate the hometown boy.

 

[BaseballCoach]

It only goes three years beyond Gally and Anderson's contracts.

Huberdeau deal goes four years longer - 2031 vs 2027 Gally/Andy

 

[nhlfan9191]

Holland is dumb enough trust me

Holland is dumb, but not $10.5 million for a 40-50 point player dumb. Treliving really did a number on that team before he left. Reminds me a lot of Bergevin whenever he felt backed into a corner and desperate.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I'd be tempted if CAL held back 4M on Huberdeau's contract and took Gallagher off our hands.

Huberdeau - Suzuki - Caufield
Slafkovsky - Dach - Roy
Newhook - Monahan - Anderson
RHP - Beck - Heineman

Huberdeau seems to be declining at age 29 onward and there are EIGHT YEARS left on his contract. Caufield will be 30 and Huberdeau 38 when the deals finish. Even at $6.5M per year it is highly risky to take that on. Too much risk, not enough reward, and it's not close.

 

[sampollock]

I have always been a supporter of Anderson but i think it is time for him to pick a trail

yes I feel the same.. I defended him on this site so many times. figure it out Anderson