HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #84: Off-Season edition

[Nedved]

So the Montreal Canadiens, who btw, have no clue where they'll be drafting and haven't even participated in an official combine or met draft eligible players, are leaning towards picking Dalibor Dvorsky?

The Montreal Slovakians.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Oh trust i'm not. That wasn't meant for you at all

yea my mistake but i 100% agree with what you said

 

[Skip Bayless]

apparently its Dvorsky from the tweet i saw

 

[Lockin17]

What would be the value of Harris at the Draft?

as to start with a first ..

 

[yianik]

Going to cost a lot of money to sign PLD. He hasn't done much lately for Jets. They falling apart

He has gotten cold lately. He does not look like a 1C in terms of the point production you would expect but he does look like a good 2C. Of course the money matters and any deal for him depends on an extension being worked out. If he is looking for a stupid amount then no deal is to be had. Just like if the Jets want too much no deal can be had. I am just saying that if he is available, then we should be checking into him.

 

[HuGort]

Pierre Luc Dubois:

60 GP, 24 Goals, 31 Assists, 55 Points, 71 Pims, should be close to his 100 hit total per year, currently out with an undisclosed lower body injury. Averaging about 18:30 minutes a game, playing in all situations. If that's not doing a lot, I'd love to see how you grade the last 25 years of Habs pivots haha!

I think PLD gets a similar contract to the one that Horvat and Larkin signed, and I think that's fair for what he brings to the table, and also considering he's younger than both those players.

Adding a player like this, in his prime, is a no brainer to me. We have the cap space, the assets, and from all indications the player wants to be here.... Who wouldn't want to add a guy like that? Yes it will cost you, but top centers always will.

Don't think it's much a deal. 8 million x 8 years. Then give up a first pick plus high end prospect. PLD has to play third line minutes. Or the wing. Or push either Suzuki or Dach back. I would pump the brakes on this

 

[Rapala]

Don't think it's much a deal. 8 million x 8 years. Then give up a first pick plus high end prospect. PLD has to play third line minutes. Or the wing. Or push either Suzuki or Dach back. I would pump the brakes on this

I'm convinced our management group is not even looking at moving assets for PLD. We have far bigger holes to fill as we speak.

 

[Lockin17]

Harris is expandable to me.
LHD is stacked for years with the Habs

Matheson
Ghule
Wifi
Hutson
Trudeau
Engtrsom

i would try to get a late first 2023 for Harris. (Quentin Musty)
A 2nd 2023 for Eddy (Mathieu Cataford)

 

[themilosh]

silly question here .

Would you guys trade 1OV 2023 for Cale Makar ?
I would

That would be a huge win for Colorado as Bedard would be entry level contract for 3 more years, which buys you another 10million player in your Stanley Cup window.
If that scenario presented itself, i believe Avs would have to throw in an A+ forward prospect.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Edit: for what it's worth, for me the decision depends on the salary he wants.

Agreed.
The bar should be the Suzuki contract, possibly rounding up a bit to 8M.

PLD would either be on the wing or the 2nd line center. The 1st line (or 1a) will be Caufield-Suzuki … they aren’t splitting them up.

The Habs are shaping up to be a team of depth rather than being led by superstars. Gotta spend carefully and spread the money around.

 

[Lockin17]

Man picking at #5 would be the worse place to pick.
Juste short of the 4 phenom ...

 

[salbutera]

Monahan is now eligible for a heavy bonus laden contact due to his injury season & career GP.

Best of all if traded at next deadline, the acquiring team wouldn’t be responsible for bonus payout

 

[Lockin17]

Vancouver #6
for
MTL #12 (panthers) + Jordan Harris

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

The Habs are shaping up to be a team of depth rather than being led by superstars.

Which is why I would roll three balanced lines with a strong center, and then weak fourth getting crumbs. Stack PP1 instead. I think that Suzuki, Dach and PLD all playing 1C-2C-3C interchangeably make it possible to create strong matchups rather than having one of those play as wing. Assuming Dach continues to improve face-offs.

 

[The Great Weal]

Vancouver #6
for
MTL #12 (panthers) + Jordan Harris

Come on, Vancouver isn’t accepting that.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Man picking at #5 would be the worse place to pick.
Juste short of the 4 phenom ...

i would be very happy with Benson

 

[calder candidate]

Vancouver #6
for
MTL #12 (panthers) + Jordan Harris

I think I rather acquire a 3rd 1st than move up.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

I think I rather acquire a 3rd 1st than move up.

we have depth we need elite talent

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

I'm convinced our management group is not even looking at moving assets for PLD. We have far bigger holes to fill as we speak.

A combination of size, grit and scoring is still a need for the Habs. Plugging one hole among many remains a useful exercise, since after all this is a team sport (and much of our foreseen talent influx is height-challenged). If HuGo are serious about turning this around, they need to keep chipping away at every flaw, while remaining aware of their salary structure. If the team could get another competitive center who compares to Suzuki, at a comparable salary, without sacrificing core pieces (remains to be seen), why wouldn't it, especially with a promising pipeline for defensemen?

 

[BergevinBurner]

Anyone else have a feeling Hughes is going to deal Florida's 1st instead of pick with it?

He's made it clear he'll make moves that accelerate the rebuild, so that makes me think he'd prefer to use that pick for an established young player instead of taking a guy that's 2/3 years away from making the NHL.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Man picking at #5 would be the worse place to pick.
Juste short of the 4 phenom ...

It's better than any other pick in the draft after it.

 

[BaseballCoach]

A combination of size, grit and scoring is still a need for the Habs. Plugging one hole among many remains a useful exercise, since after all this is a team sport (and much of our foreseen talent influx is height-challenged). If HuGo are serious about turning this around, they need to keep chipping away at every flaw, while remaining aware of their salary structure. If the team could get another competitive center who compares to Suzuki, at a comparable salary, without sacrificing core pieces (remains to be seen), why wouldn't it, especially with a promising pipeline for defensemen?

Too logical. It is more important to punish Marty Lapointe, Daniel Briere and David Perron by making Dubois grovel.

 

[Lockin17]

I think I rather acquire a 3rd 1st than move up.

#6 = Benson
#12 = Yager
Trade Harris #25 = Musty

So Yager + Musty OR Benson
I take Benson 110%

 

[Sterling Archer]

Anyone else have a feeling Hughes is going to deal Florida's 1st instead of pick with it?

He's made it clear he'll make moves that accelerate the rebuild, so that makes me think he'd prefer to use that pick for an established young player instead of taking a guy that's 2/3 years away from making the NHL.

No, unless he get's a no.1 D in the process.

 

[BaseballCoach]

we have depth we need elite talent

We are not even CLOSE to having enough QUALITY depth (11 strong players) which is why you so desperately want elite talent. Unfortunately, even if an elite player may equal two strong players, we are far. We are currently at 3 confirmed strong players plus hopefully Dach and Guhle get there soon. We are a long ways away from 9, 10 or 11.

The desperation for a saviour will dissipate as Hugo build the strong roster.

The kind of depth I am talking about is not an RHP or a Harris as he develops.

I am talking about 7 top-6 forwards, 3 top-pair D, and an above average starting G.

Nous ne sommes pas proches pantoute.