HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[Whalers Fan]

...who's playing goal??...our Zamboni Driver??...

Is he as good as the Leafs' Zamboni driver?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Is he as good as the Leafs' Zamboni driver?

...smaller but better hands...

 

[MTL-rules]

I don't think Habs can afford all these players. Szuki got the big pay starting this year, and Caufield will also cash in next. Huberdeau will be 30- or 31 in 2024. No way I want habs to give him 7-8 years contract. PLD is the best option. Still young on top of that.

Well, PLD is nowhere close to Huberdeau, we're talking about solid vs elite...

We can fit them all, they are not 11mil+ dollar players except perhaps Huberdeau.

The day we get rid of our 10,5mil goalie, it will be easier... And the cap should raise, so good time now to sign long term deals.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The goal is to win the Cup. It's worth it for the owners who can rake in the money. Fans shouldn't give a damn if the team is improved if they don't win the championship. They couldn't pass up the opportunity to get Panarin but if kakko and Lafreniere's development is stalled they won't likely get close to a Cup.

LOLOLOLOL


I'm not even touching that one.

 

[CHfan1]

There's also a defense and some goalies a team needs in order to win.

I’m seeing a lot of people post lines with PLD and Huberdeau on it and conveniently leave out the defensive pairings and goalies. As a Habs fan I’d like to see both of those players on the team at the right price, but they aren’t going to magically make the Habs contenders. The defence is dreadful right now and who knows who the starting goalie will be in 2-3 years.

There is still a lot of work for Hughes to do to get there, and it’s also going to take patience as the defensive prospects grow their games.

 

[Belial]

Suzuki - Big contract Long term
Caufield - Big contract Long term
Gallagher - Big contract Long term
PLD - Big contract Long term
Huberdeau - Big contract Long term

How many big contract long term can the Habs carry upfront?
There's also a defense and some goalies a team needs in order to win.

If Slakovsky becomes a worthy 1st overall, he's going to command another long term.

Only Huberdeau on that list will get crazy money.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I’m seeing a lot of people post lines with PLD and Huberdeau on it and conveniently leave out the defensive pairings and goalies. As a Habs fan I’d like to see both of those players on the team at the right price, but they aren’t going to magically make the Habs contenders. The defence is dreadful right now and who knows who the starting goalie will be in 2-3 years.

There is still a lot of work for Hughes to do to get there, and it’s also going to take patience as the defensive prospects grow their games.

Yeah the capjam won't be cleared for another 2 years. Personally I don't see the team being competitive for the next 2 years. After that let's see where the team is at. But I definitely don't think adding vets and big contracts is a good idea right now.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Is he as good as the Leafs' Zamboni driver?

Is he still available!?

 

[ManixLiquid]

Next year we lose due to contract expiration:

Dadonov - 5 mill
Drouin - 5.5 mill
Byron - 3.4 mill
Allen - 2.875 mill

That's $16.775mill

Potential trades out this season:

Dvorak - $4.45 mill
Hoffman - 4.5 mill

That's another $8.95 mill

which gives you total a potential open $25.725 mill. Not even discussing Armia, Gallagher or Anderson or Price. Assume they all stay.

Huberbeau - 11 mill
PLD - 7.8 mill
Caufield 6.7 mill

$25.5 mill. Our depth chart would be:

Slafkovski - Suzuki - Caufield
Huberdeau - PLD - Gallagher
Anderson - Dach - Armia

etc..

I mean not even factoring in Farrel, Kidney, Roy grabbing one of the RW spots. Ideally we get rid of Gallagher's contract as well and have a rookie take that spot.

That lineup fits under the cap, for a couple years. Top two lines mostly signed long term.

So who we trade to get Dubois? Just Dvorak?

 

[Lebowski]

People need to get over this rebuilding thing. HuGo are using the same plan as in NYR, it's obvious. If they get the chance to put their hands on a PLD or Huberdeau, they will do it...especially being local boys on top of being excellent players.

PLD yes, Huberdeau is too old and is likely a bad contract waiting to happen.

 

[CaptainKirk]

PLD yes, Huberdeau is too old and is likely a bad contract waiting to happen.

Which wouldn’t be so bad if we didn’t already have Gallagher and Price…

 

[Belial]

PLD yes, Huberdeau is too old and is likely a bad contract waiting to happen.

Huberdeau is a top 10 player in the league! Come on man, you don't skip such a player.

 

[Big Empty]

Huby already not thrilled in Calgary…

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Huby already not thrilled in Calgary…

Sounds more like he's not happy with how he was treated by Florida

 

[xposbrad]

Huberdeau is a top 10 player in the league! Come on man, you don't skip such a player.

Carey Price was a top 3 goalie in the league. That worked out well.

 

[Belial]

Carey Price was a top 3 goalie in the league. That worked out well.

And your point is?

 

[Big Empty]

Carey Price was a top 3 goalie in the league. That worked out well.

Flawed argument. We shouldn’t go for good players?

 

[salbutera]

So who we trade to get Dubois? Just Dvorak?

It will all depend on PLD - the more he restricts which team he’ll agree to sign an extension the greater the leverage power for HuGo

 

[Sorinth]

Suzuki - Big contract Long term
Caufield - Big contract Long term
Gallagher - Big contract Long term
PLD - Big contract Long term
Huberdeau - Big contract Long term

How many big contract long term can the Habs carry upfront?
There's also a defense and some goalies a team needs in order to win.

If Slakovsky becomes a worthy 1st overall, he's going to command another long term contract in 3 years while those will be in effect.....maybe even Dach too.

I think there's a little to much belief that because Toronto/Edmonton have these highly paid forwards and struggle on the defensive end that it's a mistake to spend a lot on forwards. But that's the wrong lesson to learn from them because they actually do spend money on goalies and D, they just don't get the value they should for the money. As an example we were paying Chiarot & Edmundson a combined 7m and getting better play then Toronto got spending over 10.6m on Brodie and Muzzin, the near 4m spent on Mrazek to not play. Hell they were still paying Kessel.

 

[xposbrad]

And your point is?

Really?? You just wrote that he's a top 10 player in the league and you don't skip such a player. The point is, what if he needs a 7 year deal @ 9M a year and has a huge decline in year 3 because he'll be 32-33 years old. Florida swapped him for a younger player for a reason. We need to learn from our previous mistakes.

 

[waffledave]

Huberdeau is not a fit, age wise for a rebuilding team at the salary he will ask. PLD can have a chance to sign as a UFA if he wants to be here unlike all the previous locals in their prime, who used Montreal to drive up their price and signed elsewhere.

Need to set the sights on short-term solutions until the support cast is ready to compete, and only then look at big ticket items.

Lol bro if you sign Huberdeau, that's it, rebuild is over. He is better than anyone we would get from tanking.

 

[CHfan1]

Lol bro if you sign Huberdeau, that's it, rebuild is over. He is better than anyone we would get from tanking.

I’d like to see the Habs sign Huberdeau (a similar contract to what Gaudreau just got would be ideal). But he isn’t going to turn the Habs into contenders over night. They still have a long ways to go.

 

[jaffy27]

Suzuki - Big contract Long term
Caufield - Big contract Long term
Gallagher - Big contract Long term
PLD - Big contract Long term
Huberdeau - Big contract Long term

How many big contract long term can the Habs carry upfront?
There's also a defense and some goalies a team needs in order to win.

If Slakovsky becomes a worthy 1st overall, he's going to command another long term contract in 3 years while those will be in effect.....maybe even Dach too.

Kucherov-Big contract long term
Stamkos-Big contract long term
Cirelli-Big contract long term
Point-Big contract long term
Sergachev-Big contract long term
Hedman-Big contract long term
Vasilevski-Big contract long term

Guess we can have as many as them

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Huberdeau is not a fit, age wise for a rebuilding team at the salary he will ask. PLD can have a chance to sign as a UFA if he wants to be here unlike all the previous locals in their prime, who used Montreal to drive up their price and signed elsewhere.

Need to set the sights on short-term solutions until the support cast is ready to compete, and only then look at big ticket items.

I agree I would prefer Hughes & Co see what they have first and let the pipeline develop before signing big ticket vets because then they can take a more targeted approach to pay the big price for the thing they really need. Doing it now is sort of cart before the horse thinking.

Now if Huberdeau and Dubois want to come here and take bargain contracts I mean that's difference, but assuming it's full market value I'd prefer to wait until the farm shows it is ready.

 

[jaffy27]

I’d like to see the Habs sign Huberdeau (a similar contract to what Gaudreau just got would be ideal). But he isn’t going to turn the Habs into contenders over night. They still have a long ways to go.

If you sign both PLD and Huberdeau and have Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Anderson, Dach and next year’s top 5 pick…..my friend,….poopy,…..sunshine,……the rebuild is over and you are contending.