HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #80

[SnapVirus]

I'm pretty sure the holdup on the Dach contract is about trying to see if there's a reasonable mid-term deal to be had. Dach hasn't really earned anything yet, but with his injury history he might be willing to forgo maximizing future money in order to get security of a longer term deal so it's worth exploring.

And yeah there are options capwise so it's not as dire as just looking at the remaining capspace on capfriendly. All signs point to Byron not being there to start the season, and a month into the season we likely have a lot more clarity on Price and so won't need to run 3 goalies, there will be injuries coming out of camp, etc...

Problem is by CapFriendly, Byron goes on LTIR while he is not calculated there. But Drouin is coming out and his salary is higher. We need capspace still.

 

[waffledave]

I’d have no issue signing Huberdeau to a long term contract as long as it’s as it’s as heavily front loaded as possible. That way he can be moved in the later years if need be and salary won’t be an issue.

If you can get a 100 point player and help usher in your new youngsters, then you do it. Absolutely do it.

Nope apparently we are only allowed to be bad. No good players allowed.

 

[waffledave]

Oh man signing Huberdeau would be glorious.

For the first 3-4 years he’s worth his contract he helps maintain us in mediocrity while our prospects aren’t ready. Then by the time Price and Gallagher expire he can replace them as albatross.

That would be so typically us. Good thing he prob doesnt five a f*** about Montreal.

So you're saying pur prospects won't be ready for another 5 years?

Suzuki will be 28 by then. Apparently that's too old so maybe we should just trade him now before he is completely useless and so old he should be euthanized.

 

[Sorinth]

Problem is by CapFriendly, Byron goes on LTIR while he is not calculated there. But Drouin is coming out and his salary is higher. We need capspace still.

CapFriendly is already including Drouin's 5.5m cap hit when it says we only have 200K in capspace. So in terms of real space we have whoever is on LTIR + 200K.

 

[Expos94]

Next year we lose due to contract expiration:

Dadonov - 5 mill
Drouin - 5.5 mill
Byron - 3.4 mill
Allen - 2.875 mill

That's $16.775mill

Potential trades out this season:

Dvorak - $4.45 mill
Hoffman - 4.5 mill

That's another $8.95 mill

which gives you total a potential open $25.725 mill. Not even discussing Armia, Gallagher or Anderson or Price. Assume they all stay.

Huberbeau - 11 mill
PLD - 7.8 mill
Caufield 6.7 mill

$25.5 mill. Our depth chart would be:

Slafkovski - Suzuki - Caufield
Huberdeau - PLD - Gallagher
Anderson - Dach - Armia

etc..

I mean not even factoring in Farrel, Kidney, Roy grabbing one of the RW spots. Ideally we get rid of Gallagher's contract as well and have a rookie take that spot.

That lineup fits under the cap, for a couple years. Top two lines mostly signed long term.

Looks good
Keep Anderson on the right side and bring in Roy on that line with armia moving to the fourth .

 

[Kent Nilsson]

So you're saying pur prospects won't be ready for another 5 years?

Suzuki will be 28 by then. Apparently that's too old so maybe we should just trade him now before he is completely useless and so old he should be euthanized.

I dont know how the rebuild will go. If this team is a powerhouse in 5 or so years I dont think the top players are in the organisation yet. Even guys like Slaf and Guhle won’t be in their prime in 3-4 years.

Im disappoint that youre falling in this trade Suzuki trolling BS usually youre a better poster than this.

 

[ReHabs]

Oh man signing Huberdeau would be glorious.

For the first 3-4 years he’s worth his contract he helps maintain us in mediocrity while our prospects aren’t ready. Then by the time Price and Gallagher expire he can replace them as albatross.

That would be so typically us. Good thing he prob doesnt five a f*** about Montreal.

I think you once said I have strange posts, but this is the strangest perspective I’ve seen all summer.

Can you tell me for how long you think the Habs should tank ?

 

[Spring in Fialta]

It's extremely funny. Apparently we shouldn't sign Huberdeau because he'll prevent us from...being bad?

This is 90 percent of this board. And too unself-aware to see it.

 

[waffledave]

I dont know how the rebuild will go. If this team is a powerhouse in 5 or so years I dont think the top players are in the organisation yet. Even guys like Slaf and Guhle won’t be in their prime in 3-4 years.

Im disappoint that youre falling in this trade Suzuki trolling BS usually youre a better poster than this.

I am like 99% shitposts over the last decade or so.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

I think you once said I have strange posts, but this is the strangest perspective I’ve seen all summer.

Can you tell me for how long you think the Habs should tank ?

A rebuild doesnt have a set deadline. Right now we have an obvious window where you have to let the toxic waste contracts expire (Drouin, Dadonov, Byron, Hoffman, and Savard Armia to an extent). By the time this is done it depends on the progression of your core prospects.

I’m not sure how special Suzuki/ Caufield/ Slaf/ Dach/ Guhle/ Barron is as a group tbh. Like I said in my previous post, if HuGo ends up building a cup contender the best players on that team are probly not drafted yet.

This board just wants to throw money at whatever player falls our lap because muh Buffalo Arizona. Whereas UFA is more of a tool smart teams use to adress specific holes.

 

[le_sean]

A rebuild doesnt have a set deadline. Right now we have an obvious window where you have to let the toxic waste contracts expire (Drouin, Dadonov, Byron, Hoffman, and Savard Armia to an extent). By the time this is done it depends on the progression of your core prospects.

I’m not sure how special Suzuki/ Caufield/ Slaf/ Dach/ Guhle/ Barron is as a group tbh. Like I said in my previous post, if HuGo ends up building a cup contender the best players on that team are probly not drafted yet.

This board just wants to throw money at whatever player falls our lap because muh Buffalo Arizona. Whereas UFA is more of a tool smart teams use to adress specific holes.

It’s not throwing money at players for the sake of it. Christ we are talking about signing a player that had 115 points last season. Last time the Habs had that was when, Lafleur? Also talking about targeting an elite 2C (arguably a good 1C) that is 24 years old and WANTS TO BE HERE. This is on top of the influx of young talent coming. It’s a perfect storm to build a competitive team.

People always create future lineups and it’s full of players drafted, thinking every single one will pan out. That’s fantasy. You need to acquire talent through trade and free agency. There will never be a team that wins the Cup with 23 players drafted by the same organization.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I think you once said I have strange posts, but this is the strangest perspective I’ve seen all summer.

Can you tell me for how long you think the Habs should tank ?

As short a time as possible without cutting corners or taking on bad multi-year contracts.

 

[salbutera]

Let me get this straight, many were ready to fork over a 8-year deal to keep a 31-year old Radulov (and ripped MB for not doing so), but aren’t willing to go 6 on a 30-year old Huberdeau - who because of his US residency qualifies for the CDN RCA program w bonus heavy contract structure?

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I think you once said I have strange posts, but this is the strangest perspective I’ve seen all summer.

Can you tell me for how long you think the Habs should tank ?

I don't think the goal is to tank. I think the goal is create a cap situation and a young team where success is possible.

 

[Kent Nilsson]

It’s not throwing money at players for the sake of it. Christ we are talking about signing a player that had 115 points last season. Last time the Habs had that was when, Lafleur? Also talking about targeting an elite 2C (arguably a good 1C) that is 24 years old and WANTS TO BE HERE. This is on top of the influx of young talent coming. It’s a perfect storm to build a competitive team.

People always create future lineups and it’s full of players drafted, thinking every single one will pan out. That’s fantasy. You need to acquire talent through trade and free agency. There will never be a team that wins the Cup with 23 players drafted by the same organization.

Huberdeau will be a typical UFA blunder where you’re paying for past performances and you end up stuck with an overpaid anchor that ruins your cap. It can be worth it if you have a mature core that’s already going for the cup with a small window left but since we are the habs and every quebecois player dreams of playing for us we’ll take him for the rebuild.

Just when you think this board couldnt be into something that would make even less sense than trading for PLD.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Lots of people need to put down the crack pipe dreams with their forward lines

$60 MM on forwards + $13MM on goalies leaves SFA for Dmen

 

[sampollock]

Need a trade to steer this board on a soild discussion

 

[LV426]

Need a trade to steer this board on a soild discussion

Idle hands are the devil's playground.

 

[dinodebino]

It’s not throwing money at players for the sake of it. Christ we are talking about signing a player that had 115 points last season. Last time the Habs had that was when, Lafleur? Also talking about targeting an elite 2C (arguably a good 1C) that is 24 years old and WANTS TO BE HERE. This is on top of the influx of young talent coming. It’s a perfect storm to build a competitive team.

People always create future lineups and it’s full of players drafted, thinking every single one will pan out. That’s fantasy. You need to acquire talent through trade and free agency. There will never be a team that wins the Cup with 23 players drafted by the same organization.

It’s HFBoards, man. Hockey’s Future! Not the present! Drafting is the lifeline of this platform!

It would have been the perfect forum for the Expos, TBH. Great to draft and to trade alllll of their budding stars. Because it’sHFBoards!!! Where last year’s prospect is not the shiny new toy, because hey! We have next year’s draft!

Need a trade to steer this board on a soild discussion

Words of wisdom.

 

[durojean]

If Habs sign Huberdeau and Dubois... wow!!

Huberdeau - Suzuki - Caufield.
Slafkovsky - Dubois - Dach.

More like

??? Suzuki Caufield
Huberdeau Dubois ???
Slafkovsky Dach ???

 

[Habs Icing]

Idle hands are the devil's playground.

I thought it was workshop, the devil's workshop.

 

[sampollock]

Habs never get PLD and Huber

 

[Runner77]

Habs never get PLD and Huber

You just never know.

 

[LV426]

I thought it was workshop, the devil's workshop.

I think we're both correct.

 

[waitin425]

More like

??? Suzuki Caufield
Huberdeau Dubois ???
Slafkovsky Dach ???

I'm assuming this is 2023?

I'd do

Hubs Suzuki Caufield
Slaf Dubois Anderson
Pitlick Dach 2023 1st/Mesar
Farrell Evans Armia