Trade Ideas

[stillwater]

Ekblad? Big, righty, tough to play against, same age as Larkin, Windsor-native, grew up as Wings fan, idolized Lidström. Checks many boxes, Wings are set on LHDs, i don't really see the need for another one.

Ekblad has NMC but next season he will have M-NTC, 12 team list. Considering his background, Wings won't be on that list. At the draft 2nd 2024+Määttä+AlJo+Tuomisto?

Maybe Ekblad is the rumoured "McDonagh-trade" instead of Hanifin or Chychrun? Ekblad turns 28 in February, McDonagh was also 28 when Yzerman traded for him.

I mean, the entertainment value is just off the charts, so thanks.

The idea that other teams will trade the Wings their best players for a half eaten chicken burger and a roll of toilet paper is about as deluded as it gets.

But, it's entertaining, cannot deny.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Spoke with some contacts in Sweden and apparently Hakan and the Red Wings brass likes Zetterlund in San Jose. See if that becomes anything now or during the summer.

I'd be interested, depends on the cost though.

I don't think he comes cheap.

 

[SantosHalper]

I mean, the entertainment value is just off the charts, so thanks.

The idea that other teams will trade the Wings their best players for a half eaten chicken burger and a roll of toilet paper is about as deluded as it gets.

But, it's entertaining, cannot deny.

Its funnier to fleece. Florida don't have the cap room, Montour and Forsling takes the PP roles. Ekblad is basically a shutdown d-man. If Ekblad wants to go to Detroit, it will be cheap. Like DeBrincat was. They didn't even get the burger.

 

[stillwater]

Might just as well double down.

 

[Snuggs]

We dont need veteran depth.. its one thing we're flush with..

If we add it should be a younger player who is signed or we will sign to be part of our "core," as opposed to a pure rental...

Hanifin fits the bill and so to does Zegras...anyone else we can or should pursue?

Joel Eriksson Ek. 26/27, signed, two-way player.

Little smoke with Vancouver, idk if it's real but if they're talking Yzerman should get involved, think Red Wings have more to offer.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Joel Eriksson Ek. 26/27, signed, two-way player.

Little smoke with Vancouver, idk if it's real but if they're talking Yzerman should get involved, think Red Wings have more to offer.

It was a fake rumor statyed but a Canucks fan who was quickly shutdown by wild beat writer and elliot Friedman. Taj is a Canucks Twitter troll. Erikson Ek isn't getting traded by Minnesota at all

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Ghost + conditional 1st (this year if Hanifin re-signs, slides to next year if he doesn't) to CGY

for
Hanifin

Maatta + 3rd to MTL

for
David Savard

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Savard
Edvinsson - Chiarot
Petry/Holl as extras

Thought for next season:
Veleno has gone ice cold again and the inconsistency in his game is infuriating to me at this point. Detroit can internally fill the 3/4C position with either Kasper or Danielson if either is ready next year, but has a gaping hole for legit top 6 LW.

Either convert Joey V to LW and see how he does there, trade him to fix another major hole in the roster (2nd pair RD for instance) and sign Jake DeBrusk as UFA. Or give Kasper a shot on LW before turning him into a full time center in the NHL kind of like they did with Larkin and Zetterberg.

DeBrusk/Veleno - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Kasper/Danielson - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur (He'd be an upgrade over Fischer)

or...

Kasper - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno(If we keep him) - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur

 

[Detroit Knights]

Ghost + conditional 1st (this year if Hanifin re-signs, next year if he doesn't) to CGY

for
Hanifin

Maatta + 3rd to MTL

for
David Savard

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Savard
Edvinsson - Chiarot
Petry/Holl as extras

Thought for next season:
Veleno has gone ice cold again and the inconsistency in his game is infuriating to me at this point. Detroit can internally fill the 3/4C position with either Kasper or Danielson if either is ready next year, but has a gaping hole for legit top 6 LW.

Either convert Joey V to LW and see how he does there, trade him to fix another major hole in the roster (2nd pair RD for instance) and sign Jake DeBrusk as UFA. Or give Kasper a shot on LW before turning him into a full time center in the NHL kind of like they did with Larkin and Zetterberg.

DeBrusk/Veleno - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Kasper/Danielson - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur (He'd be an upgrade over Fischer)

or...

Kasper - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno(If we keep him) - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur

can't comment on savard. But I think the Hanifin deal might be slight overpayment? Not sure, I'd much rather save the extra first if possible to get a goalie like saros (who is apparently taking calls on now?) or markstrom.

Either way, you created room for edvinsson. So that's good. I would prefer kasper starts on wing like larkin then transitions to that 3rd line c spot you have veleno in. I wouldn't mind debrusk as he has some feistyness that would be good for the top line and has good hands, so I think that works.

I would assume we keep danielson in ahl unless he overly impresses enough (may be difficult to do, but he didn't look out of place against top players in the league like mathews/tavares even though it was preseason) but Kasper is starting to find his footing in ahl, so he probably gets first look. Which makes sense.

DeBrusk - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Kasper - Sprong (actually really like the makeup of this line)
Ras - Copp - Mazur

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Petry
Edvinsson - Chiarot

Lyon
Markstrom

Lines 3 and 4 could interchange given their play at the time. So could lines 1 and 2 if we are honest. Gives a lot of flexibility. If we are able to extend hanifin, I think it could leave walman exposed to a potential deal, leaving Hanifin - Seider as a pairing and I don't hate it tbh. That brings Edvinsson up with Chiarot/Petry and have the third line be chiarot/petry - Holl. Don't hate it.

 

[Frk It]

Honestly I don’t think we should trade for a defenseman at all. Thought I saw a rumor Hanifin was close to extending with Calgary, and I low key hope he does.

All I think we need to do is sign a (middle pair) RD this off-season, and there should be several options available: Pesce, Barrie, Montour, etc

I’d be more than fine with this to start next year:

Walman-Seider
Edvinsson-UFA
Chiarot-Holl

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

can't comment on savard. But I think the Hanifin deal might be slight overpayment? Not sure, I'd much rather save the extra first if possible to get a goalie like saros (who is apparently taking calls on now?) or markstrom.

Either way, you created room for edvinsson. So that's good. I would prefer kasper starts on wing like larkin then transitions to that 3rd line c spot you have veleno in. I wouldn't mind debrusk as he has some feistyness that would be good for the top line and has good hands, so I think that works.

I would assume we keep danielson in ahl unless he overly impresses enough (may be difficult to do, but he didn't look out of place against top players in the league like mathews/tavares even though it was preseason) but Kasper is starting to find his footing in ahl, so he probably gets first look. Which makes sense.

DeBrusk - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Kasper - Sprong (actually really like the makeup of this line)
Ras - Copp - Mazur

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Petry
Edvinsson - Chiarot

Lyon
Markstrom

Lines 3 and 4 could interchange given their play at the time. So could lines 1 and 2 if we are honest. Gives a lot of flexibility. If we are able to extend hanifin, I think it could leave walman exposed to a potential deal, leaving Hanifin - Seider as a pairing and I don't hate it tbh. That brings Edvinsson up with Chiarot/Petry and have the third line be chiarot/petry - Holl. Don't hate it.

It's not two 1sts. It's one this year if he signs. Or it slides to next year if he doesn't.

 

[stillwater]

But it's fiction. So, if he misunderstands, it doesn't matter at all.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Honestly I don’t think we should trade for a defenseman at all. Thought I saw a rumor Hanifin was close to extending with Calgary, and I low key hope he does.

All I think we need to do is sign a (middle pair) RD this off-season, and there should be several options available: Pesce, Barrie, Montour, etc

I’d be more than fine with this to start next year:

Walman-Seider
Edvinsson-UFA
Chiarot-Holl

I like Pesce's defense but his puck moving has never been above average to me. I get that he's low on the depth chart in Carolina right now as their #5D, but losing Ghost AND replacing him with a guy that is only an average puckmover worries me a bit. Detroit's offense from their defense has been a big strength this year and I don't want to lose that.

Edvinsson is a great prospect but right now he's an unknown offensively in the NHL. Getting a guy like Hanifin is a major upgrade on LD in all areas as puck mover and defensive prowess. He's a proven 40 point guy without being a liability.

If there was a way to dump one of Petry/Holl, get Hanifin, AND sign Pesce?

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Pesce
Edvinsson - Chiarot

I think we'd have a good time with that.

 

[Frk It]

I like Pesce's defense but his puck moving has never been above average to me. I get that he's low on the depth chart in Carolina right now as their #5D, but losing Ghost AND replacing him with a guy that is only an average puckmover worries me a bit. Detroit's offense from their defense has been a big strength this year and I don't want to lose that.

Edvinsson is a great prospect but right now he's an unknown offensively in the NHL. Getting a guy like Hanifin is a major upgrade on LD in all areas as puck mover and defensive prowess. He's a proven 40 point guy without being a liability.

If there was a way to dump one of Petry/Holl, get Hanifin, AND sign Pesce?

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Pesce
Edvinsson - Chiarot

I think we'd have a good time with that.

Yeah so Barrie if you want a Ghost replacement, Montour if you want a 2 way guy, Pesce if you want a defensive guy.

We have options with RD in UFA coming up this summer, and I think adding a RD is more important than adding another LD.

Honestly I’d probably let Ghost walk and extend Seider and then put him right back on PP1. And let Edvinsson run PP2. But they probably wont do that.

I’d be on board with signing Barrie then. Maybe you run Chiarot-Barrie and Edvinsson-Holl.

Or ya boy Klingberg is a UFA again just get us a Swedish Hronek so you can re-live those times

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

I'd be interested, depends on the cost though.

I don't think he comes cheap.

Yeah probably not. Think he doesn't have too many years left though. But whenever I watch Sharks score feels like he always scores.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yeah so Barrie if you want a Ghost replacement, Montour if you want a 2 way guy, Pesce if you want a defensive guy.

We have options with RD in UFA coming up this summer, and I think adding a RD is more important than adding another LD.

Honestly I’d probably let Ghost walk and extend Seider and then put him right back on PP1. And let Edvinsson run PP2. But they probably wont do that.

I’d be on board with signing Barrie then. Maybe you run Chiarot-Barrie and Edvinsson-Holl.

Or ya boy Klingberg is a UFA again just get us a Swedish Hronek so you can re-live those times

No thanks to Klingberg. My lesson is learned.

Barrie is having an awful year in Nashville. I don't know if it's father time, usage/role, he just hates playing for a Trotz team (I know he's GM but still.)

Montour is following up a 73 point season with 10 points and -2 in 31 games this year. I'll let someone else bite on that.

 

[Frk It]

No thanks to Klingberg. My lesson is learned.

Barrie is having an awful year in Nashville. I don't know if it's father time, usage/role, he just hates playing for a Trotz team (I know he's GM but still.)

Montour is following up a 73 point season with 10 points and -2 in 31 games this year. I'll let someone else bite on that.

Ok, Pesce it is and then Seider back to PP1. Walman or Edvinsson can run PP2.

I disagree on Montour, I think he is still a good player. The points dipping might help you get him on a more reasonable deal, but he can still log a lot of minutes for you.

Can probably scratch off Barrie and Klingberg at this point, I'm with you there.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Ok, Pesce it is and then Seider back to PP1. Walman or Edvinsson can run PP2.

I disagree on Montour, I think he is still a good player. The points dipping might help you get him on a more reasonable deal, but he can still log a lot of minutes for you.

Can probably scratch off Barrie and Klingberg at this point, I'm with you there.

More ideal would be Erik Cernak. The guy has been on my wishlist for years now. Tampa may need to move either him or Cirelli to keep Stamkos.

If Detroit loses out on Pesce this offseason would you consider moving a 1st and/or prospects for him? Something around Wallinder + 2nd?

 

[Frk It]

More ideal would be Erik Cernak. The guy has been on my wishlist for years now. Tampa may need to move either him or Cirelli to keep Stamkos.

If Detroit loses out on Pesce this offseason would you consider moving a 1st and/or prospects for him? Something around Wallinder + 2nd?

I am not giving up a 1st rounder for a purely defensive guy like Cernak, nah. Not really my kinda guy.

Guy doesn't put up points and doesn't even play 20 minutes a night.

 

[Detroit Knights]

It's not two 1sts. It's one this year if he signs. Or it slides to next year if he doesn't.

no i know it is one or the other. I still would like to save it for a goalie.

to get an non-extended hanifin and markstrom I think is totally gettable with our picks/prospects. I just don't think it's going to cost as much as people think because I think calgary is going to start a real rebuild at this point. Then again, never know I suppose.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I am not giving up a 1st rounder for a purely defensive guy like Cernak, nah. Not really my kinda guy.

Guy doesn't put up points and doesn't even play 20 minutes a night.

What would be a comfortable trade for a guy like that then? Getting a guy like him allows for Mo Seider to take more offensive zone deployments. (Same with Pesce.)

He's young (26), very physical, average to above average skater, blocks shots, gritty as hell. I rank him up there as a top 10 defensive defenseman in the league.

 

[Detroit Knights]

What would be a comfortable trade for a guy like that then? Getting a guy like him allows for Mo Seider to take more offensive zone deployments. (Same with Pesce.)

He's young (26), very physical, average to above average skater, blocks shots, gritty as hell. I rank him up there as a top 10 defensive defenseman in the league.

and we do need defensive defenseman if we are going after the trade deadline with lyon/husso

 

[Gniwder]

Ghost + conditional 1st (this year if Hanifin re-signs, slides to next year if he doesn't) to CGY

for
Hanifin

Maatta + 3rd to MTL

for
David Savard

Walman - Seider
Hanifin - Savard
Edvinsson - Chiarot
Petry/Holl as extras

Thought for next season:
Veleno has gone ice cold again and the inconsistency in his game is infuriating to me at this point. Detroit can internally fill the 3/4C position with either Kasper or Danielson if either is ready next year, but has a gaping hole for legit top 6 LW.

Either convert Joey V to LW and see how he does there, trade him to fix another major hole in the roster (2nd pair RD for instance) and sign Jake DeBrusk as UFA. Or give Kasper a shot on LW before turning him into a full time center in the NHL kind of like they did with Larkin and Zetterberg.

DeBrusk/Veleno - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Kasper/Danielson - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur (He'd be an upgrade over Fischer)

or...

Kasper - Larkin - Raymond
DBC - Compher - Kane
Fabbri - Veleno(If we keep him) - Sprong
Rasmussen - Copp - Mazur

It'll be Burger that'll be on the roster next season, and he plays well with Joey. Perron will be the odd man out, he's slow. Sprong might wind up walking for more money, and if that happens I can see Stevie signing an UFA winger.

I don't see Stevie promoting kids early at this point. Kasper, Mazur, and Danielson will all probably play for GR next season. Burger is putting up 1 ppg in GR, Kasper and Mazur aren't even close. Not to mention Burger is NHL sized, Kasper and Mazur still need to gain a few pounds.

I'd be shocked if Stevie makes any big TDL trades. He might pick up some insurance type players since there's no roster limit after the deadline. Too early to buy playoff rentals.

 

[Frk It]

What would be a comfortable trade for a guy like that then? Getting a guy like him allows for Mo Seider to take more offensive zone deployments. (Same with Pesce.)

He's young (26), very physical, average to above average skater, blocks shots, gritty as hell. I rank him up there as a top 10 defensive defenseman in the league.

I get that he has some appealing characterizes to his game… but can he handle those types of matchups? Because the guy has never averaged under 20 min a night every season for his whole career.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I get that he has some appealing characterizes to his game… but can he handle those types of matchups? Because the guy has never averaged under 20 min a night every season for his whole career.

He's been the #4 D on Tampa. His pairing was with McDonagh and his O-zone faceoff percentage is only about 42%. This season his stats don't look too sexy but they also dealt with a Vasilevsky injury for a big chunk of it.

 

[Frk It]

He's been the #4 D on Tampa. His pairing was with McDonagh and his O-zone faceoff percentage is only about 42%. This season his stats don't look too sexy but they also dealt with a Vasilevsky injury for a big chunk of it.

Is he a better player than Pesce or do you just like his style of play better?