Trade Ideas

[Winged Wheel Willy]

Then it wouldn't happen which wood be fine. Ed would be a huge loss but for Drai? Keep in mind the oilers depths is none existent, they have zero flexibility, it's been said he looks very unhappy this year. Everyone thought we'd lose our shirt to get DBC to but Yzerman just has a way.

No, I get it and I would be willing to give up significant pieces. But the package that we would have to put together to outbid the competition is too much for me. I think you basically have to give up your best player Form the last 3/4 draft classes.

 

[WF19]

No, I get it and I would be willing to give up significant pieces. But the package that we would have to put together to outbid the competition is too much for me. I think you basically have to give up your best player Form the last 3/4 draft classes.

Your probably right but it's also Ken Holland lol. Either way i think there is gonna be another big move this year, 7 serviceable Dmen with the club Plus Ed who should already be up. 5 Goalies between GR and the Wings. Either that or he'll wait for teams to get desperate and start reloading in picks again. Either way it's been an exciting year since this off season

 

[SirloinUB]

Landing Kane makes me want to land another top 6 winger.

I like the idea of a Kane - Compher - debrincat as a line.

Which would open up a spot next to Larkin-Raymond. Obviously we have some pieces that can be plugged in to that spot such as Fabbri, Veleno, Ras etc but leaving those guys in depth roles would be a better option.

I’m not sure what options would realistically be available but landing one more bonafide top 6 forward would really pull the lineup together.

 

[Gniwder]

Landing Kane makes me want to land another top 6 winger.

I like the idea of a Kane - Compher - debrincat as a line.

Which would open up a spot next to Larkin-Raymond. Obviously we have some pieces that can be plugged in to that spot such as Fabbri, Veleno, Ras etc but leaving those guys in depth roles would be a better option.

I’m not sure what options would realistically be available but landing one more bonafide top 6 forward would really pull the lineup together.

Depends on which teams fall out of the playoff picture.

Guentzel, Toffoli, Lindholm, and Tank are the big pending UFAs on non-playoff teams. I suppose Toews is available too, he did not officially retire. That would be hilarious.

 

[RedHawkDown]

If Kane looks like he can still play, I hope Yzerman is aggressive here.
Untouchables would jsut be Raymond/Seider/Edvinsson and maybe Danielson (for most players)

I'd use a mix of prospects (Lombardi, Kasper, Berggren, Wallinder, Johansson etc) and roster players (Fabbri, Copp, Rasmussen, etc) and picks (25/26 1sts, 2nds) to go after a top4 D man and a top line winger.

My dream scenario would be something like this at the deadline:

Fabbri + Kasper + Berggren + 1st for Nylander (assuming he won't re-sign w Toronto). We'd probably be out-bid here, who knows.

Wallinder + Maatta + Johansson + 2nd for Hanifin (assuming extension). Don't really have a good grasp of Hanifin's value to the Flames, but I doubt he's re-signing there.

Call up Ed.

Could go into the playoffs with:
Raymond-Larkin-Nylander
DeBrincat-Compher-Kane
Perron-Veleno-Copp
Kostin-Fischer-Sprong

Walman-Seider
Hanifin-Ghost
Edvinsson-Chiarot
Holl/Petry

Much better than what we're running now and could do some real damage. Obviously it's a pipe dream.

 

[Gniwder]

If Kane looks like he can still play, I hope Yzerman is aggressive here.
Untouchables would jsut be Raymond/Seider/Edvinsson and maybe Danielson (for most players)

I'd use a mix of prospects (Lombardi, Kasper, Berggren, Wallinder, Johansson etc) and roster players (Fabbri, Copp, Rasmussen, etc) and picks (25/26 1sts, 2nds) to go after a top4 D man and a top line winger.

My dream scenario would be something like this at the deadline:

Fabbri + Kasper + Berggren + 1st for Nylander (assuming he won't re-sign w Toronto). We'd probably be out-bid here, who knows.

Wallinder + Maatta + Johansson + 2nd for Hanifin (assuming extension). Don't really have a good grasp of Hanifin's value to the Flames, but I doubt he's re-signing there.

Call up Ed.

Could go into the playoffs with:
Raymond-Larkin-Nylander
DeBrincat-Compher-Kane
Perron-Veleno-Copp
Kostin-Fischer-Sprong

Walman-Seider
Hanifin-Ghost
Edvinsson-Chiarot
Holl/Petry

Much better than what we're running now and could do some real damage. Obviously it's a pipe dream.

Toronto's a bubble team too, they are absolutely NOT going to trade a first line winger to a division rival. If the Wings push the Leafs out of a playoff spot after a trade like that, Trevling is looking for a new job.

I'll settle for Toews, just to really piss off Blackhawk fans, lol.

 

[TMLAM34]

If Kane looks like he can still play, I hope Yzerman is aggressive here.
Untouchables would jsut be Raymond/Seider/Edvinsson and maybe Danielson (for most players)

I'd use a mix of prospects (Lombardi, Kasper, Berggren, Wallinder, Johansson etc) and roster players (Fabbri, Copp, Rasmussen, etc) and picks (25/26 1sts, 2nds) to go after a top4 D man and a top line winger.

My dream scenario would be something like this at the deadline:

Fabbri + Kasper + Berggren + 1st for Nylander (assuming he won't re-sign w Toronto). We'd probably be out-bid here, who knows.

Wallinder + Maatta + Johansson + 2nd for Hanifin (assuming extension). Don't really have a good grasp of Hanifin's value to the Flames, but I doubt he's re-signing there.

Call up Ed.

Could go into the playoffs with:
Raymond-Larkin-Nylander
DeBrincat-Compher-Kane
Perron-Veleno-Copp
Kostin-Fischer-Sprong

Walman-Seider
Hanifin-Ghost
Edvinsson-Chiarot
Holl/Petry

Much better than what we're running now and could do some real damage. Obviously it's a pipe dream.

If Toronto moved Nylander, it’ll be a hockey trade where they get multiple pieces in return that can step in and play right away at this point. One of those pieces would almost certainly need to be a top four defenceman.

I came on these boards during the off-season and mentioned how Detroit should go after Nylander and got called out for it especially since Detroit acquired DeBrincat.

Nylander would be an extremely good fit in Detroit. Especially given all the Swedish history.

 

[Gniwder]

Nylander would be an extremely good fit in Detroit. Especially given all the Swedish history.

That history also includes his dad being loaned to the Wings by the Caps, at which point he got sent to GR and played 24 games. Not sure how William feels about that, considering his dad injured his spine playing for GR (by Brandan Smith who was playing for Rochester).

In any case, zero chance Toronto trades with a division rival. Free agency is a different story though. I think the Leafs keep him knowing he's gonna leave. I don't think they have a choice given their fan base. If he gets traded, it absolutely has to be a hockey trade for roster players like you said.

 

[RedHawkDown]

If Toronto moved Nylander, it’ll be a hockey trade where they get multiple pieces in return that can step in and play right away at this point. One of those pieces would almost certainly need to be a top four defenceman.

I came on these boards during the off-season and mentioned how Detroit should go after Nylander and got called out for it especially since Detroit acquired DeBrincat.

Nylander would be an extremely good fit in Detroit. Especially given all the Swedish history.

Fair point. I’d also include Walman in that trade and bring up Ed. Maybe the Leafs would go for something like Walman + Kasper +?

Anyhow it is unlikely as you say, Toronto will want to keep him for a run even if he doesn’t stay. But if the Leafs flounder and aren’t in a playoff spot, I could see Treliving look to shake things up.

 

[TMLAM34]

Fair point. I’d also include Walman in that trade and bring up Ed. Maybe the Leafs would go for something like Walman + Kasper +?

Anyhow it is unlikely as you say, Toronto will want to keep him for a run even if he doesn’t stay. But if the Leafs flounder and aren’t in a playoff spot, I could see Treliving look to shake things up.

Personally I think the ship has sailed for Nylander to Detroit via trade. If he hits free agency (which I doubt he will), that’s a different story then.

Carolina is my dark horse team to acquire Nylander, whether through UFA or trade. They’ve shown interest in the past multiple times and they’ll have the cap space to re-sign/sign him pretty easily.

Though I wouldn’t mind Nylander going to Detroit, would give me a reason to follow/like the Wings (I live in Windsor) instead of always having travel 4 hours to a Leafs game that’s extremely overpaid lol.

 

[PelagicJoe]

We could just go after Nylander or Lindholm in free agency next season.

As far as trades go, dangle Reimer, Maataa, and/or Petry in front of Holland and fleece him out of some picks or something.

We can trade any of Maataa, Petry, or Chiarot to someone to upgrade forwards or get picks, call up Ed, make the playoffs.

 

[Tatar Shots]

Hanifin would be a really nice get and extension. 1st + Wallinder + Berggren + Maata for Hanifin?

 

[RedHawkDown]

Hanifin would be a really nice get and extension. 1st + Wallinder + Berggren + Maata for Hanifin?

Based on what they traded Zadorov for, I don't even think it'd take that much.

 

[stillwater]

Always fascinating how other teams will always accept Detroit's fringy players for their own star players in these trade scenarios. Just give them a 1st and add any fringy player and there you go, easy peasy.

Too bad Zadina isn't still around to add to every trade dream. Still have Ras though ... I'm sure he'll fetch a star player.

 

[saska sault]

Personally, as a person who has below zero influence. I wouldn't being trading any valuable assets this year just to extend a guy we haven't seen play in the system yet. Too many examples of guys getting traded for and getting max term before you even know if they will be a good player in your system, especially guys close to 30 and getting retirement contracts.

 

[Ricelund]

Always fascinating how other teams will always accept Detroit's fringy players for their own star players in these trade scenarios. Just give them a 1st and add any fringy player and there you go, easy peasy.

Like Kubalik and Sebrango?

 

[Snuggs]

Idk what it could fetch, but I willing to bundle up some prospects/picks to get a solid player in here.

(Berggren/Kasper/Wallinder/1strdp*assuming we're a playoff team near TDL) You could throw a roster player like Maatta/Kostin or something for money to swap right but that's about all the value I'm willing to give up for a guy with 2 years or more. Rental, I'd give up less. Jake Guentzel might be had for a 2nd rdp plus prospect (Cross Hanas)or something along those lines.

Penguins and Guentzel are a situation I'm personally paying attention to outside of Lindholm, though Guentzel would be a pure rental play. I think money/salary is the biggest issue with Lindholm. A Tomas Hertl type contract seems tough to stomach.

 

[Snuggs]

Like Kubalik and Sebrango?

 

[RedHawkDown]

Personally, as a person who has below zero influence. I wouldn't being trading any valuable assets this year just to extend a guy we haven't seen play in the system yet. Too many examples of guys getting traded for and getting max term before you even know if they will be a good player in your system, especially guys close to 30 and getting retirement contracts.

Hanifin is 26, he’s younger than Larkin.

 

[SirloinUB]

Hanafin would be a real nice get. Konecny is another interesting option for the top line.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Blockbuster trade!

Maatta + Copp + Berggren + 1st + 4th

for

Lindholm + Hanifin + 2nd

Calgary's GM seems to be not realgud at trades when you consider the Zadorov and Toffolli deals. And that looks like a team that's trying to not rebuild but they have a lot of malcontents that want out.

 

[Frk It]

Blockbuster trade!

Maatta + Copp + Berggren + 1st + 4th

for

Lindholm + Hanifin + 2nd

Calgary's GM seems to be not realgud at trades when you consider the Zadorov and Toffolli deals. And that looks like a team that's trying to not rebuild but they have a lot of malcontents that want out.

you crazy!

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

you crazy!

Maybe. Or maybe Craig Conroy is bad at his job?

 

[Frk It]

Maybe. Or maybe Craig Conroy is bad at his job?

Yeah, and Holland is too. But Holland isn't going to trade us a 1st for one of our crap goalies. And Calgary isn't going to give us 2 very good players for a pile of crap and a 1st rounder. So we can stop suggesting this kinda stuff.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Yeah, and Holland is too. But Holland isn't going to trade us a 1st for one of our crap goalies. And Calgary isn't going to give us 2 very good players for a pile of crap and a 1st rounder. So we can stop suggesting this kinda stuff.

That's because Holland gets cold feet when trading. It's also why his team is floundering and likely to miss the playoffs this year and his contract as GM not extended.

Also, every once in a while trades like this happen. Maybe not an every year occurrence but the league is due for a trade where fans everywhere scream robbery. We're due!