Trade, FA and Rumours 2022/23

[surixon]

Except it doesn't make the team any better and more likely makes it worse to move Ehlers for a D.

There have been a number of rumors of the Jets trying to move him for defensive help in the past so I wouldn't be that surprised to see them entertain it again. I would think it would be more of a summer deal myself if it were to happen.

 

[Jetsfan79]

Except it doesn't make the team any better and more likely makes it worse to move Ehlers for a D.

In theory your right. But even if its not a huge sample size, the team has demonstrated it can play well without Ehlers. Hes also injury prone. And I have a feeling there is some sort of off ice issue at play. I would be open to a trade if the return is equal or better value. Not even 80- cents on the dollar. Dollar or more must come back.

 

[Huffer]

But at least it is a realistic discussion. Ehlers has 2 more years of control. Sanheim has 8 years. If Chevy was looking at remaking his roster IMO it makes sense, especially in light where are prospect strength is.

Personally I would see that as a summer thing. Especially if the Jets can't simultaneously right now move a D and then use those assets to get 2 more forwards to replace Ehlers and add where we already needed it.

But based on all the other moving parts that could come into play this summer, I think moving Ehlers has to be looked at after you resolve the PLD/Scheif/Helle situation.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

You guys are really pissing @Mortimer Snerd off right now with all these posts he has to get through already today.

That was yesterday's joke.

 

[KingBogo]

Personally I would see that as a summer thing. Especially if the Jets can't simultaneously right now move a D and then use those assets to get 2 more forwards to replace Ehlers and add where we already needed it.

But based on all the other moving parts that could come into play this summer, I think moving Ehlers has to be looked at after you resolve the PLD/Scheif/Helle situation.

Fair enough. I just don't see us being able to move a D now that would free up any cap space. I don't see a market for either Pionk or Schmidt. Samberg and to a lesser extent Stanley might draw some interest, but that doesn't free up any room.

 

[DRW204]

Personally I would see that as a summer thing. Especially if the Jets can't simultaneously right now move a D and then use those assets to get 2 more forwards to replace Ehlers and add where we already needed it.

But based on all the other moving parts that could come into play this summer, I think moving Ehlers has to be looked at after you resolve the PLD/Scheif/Helle situation.

trading a top-6 fwd for d directly or indirectly doesn't make sense right now.

move out a top-6er and we're back at waiver wire in the top-6. or desperately need to rush perfetti back and hope he remains healthy which i am skeptical on in the POs.

can of course make another trade for a top-6er but at that point just keep our guys and move a 1st+ for Dman. EDM was able to do that without moving a top-6 fwd on their roster.

i agree. offseason/summer would be the time to look at moving ehlers. but they need to know the direction of those 3 first.

 

[KingBogo]

Personally I would see that as a summer thing. Especially if the Jets can't simultaneously right now move a D and then use those assets to get 2 more forwards to replace Ehlers and add where we already needed it.

But based on all the other moving parts that could come into play this summer, I think moving Ehlers has to be looked at after you resolve the PLD/Scheif/Helle situation.

Again I just don't see any teams being interested in either Pionk or Schmidt. Too much of a cap hit and too much term, and in Pionks case way too much actual salary for many teams.

 

[Thechozen1]

Blackhawks play tonight and have recalled Lukas Reichel so there’s potentially something going down today.

 

[drumzan]

Another LHD! Exactly what we need!

Banners live forever though.
And injured /lost qb, lost best offensive weapon yeah your season will go to shits. But no doubt it hurts but I'm sure it's offset with the joy of winning the SB.

nhl draft picks are also far different from nfl. You'll get multiple starters immediately. Nhl if you're a contending team you expect to get couple replaceable mid players like 3-4 years later (since picks are late). Some teams like TBL pull elite players tho.

Just saying teams like TB ain't going anywhere with their core locked up for years. And their core is proven championship caliber. They're trading picks for RFAs or players with term. Not rentals. Their late 1st have like a 20% becoming anything in the nhl like 3 years from now so yeah for them F them picks and win cups.

Do you think Chipman would sign off on having a lot of lean years rebuilding like the Rams will be doing at the cost of one Championship? It’s fair to wonder. He has also been on record saying he wants a consistent winner every season.

The Winnipeg Jets aren’t at the same level as the Rams or Lightning were where they were obvious championship caliber teams. Even if Chevy/Chipman add one or two more significant pieces… they’re not making it to Cup Finals. Yes, I know, I know… “if not now, when!?!?”… “this team needs to go all-in, they owe it to their players!”.

My opinion on this will never change. Chevy/Chipman’s strength needs to continue to be a patient draft and develop team. Using their Cap Space to gain assets. And try to find market inefficiencies to sign/trade buy-low players like DeMelo, Perreault, Stempniak, Brossoit, etc.

It’s no fluke this team currently has a bad bottom-6. 2018 they had no 1st round pick. 2019-2021 they had 4-5 draft picks per year. Eventually that stuff starts creeping up on the team.

Yes I’m fully aware most draft picks don’t work out. But the less picks you have, the odds decrease of finding NHL’ers, and there’s less room for error.

The highest profile UFA’s Winnipeg has signed in 12 years are the likes of Olli Jokinen and Steve Mason. That pretty much says it all. Draft picks are incredibly important to this team.

Well aware I’m in the minority on this opinion. But I don’t want to see this team give away more assets to inevitably not win the Cup.

Anyway… that’s all I’ll say on this matter. Cheers.

 

[Flair Hay]

Like Friedman reported though, Ottawa May have won due to not sending $ or requiring retention back the other way

Good trade for Sens, it is what it is for us. Maybe we had the exact same type of offer on the table but for Arizona, Ottawa was the ideal dance partner

Sounds like it. What can you do. I was drunk when I saw the trade go down so not at my best lol

I'll wait until Friday to pass judgment on where we are.

 

[gojetsgo]

Another LHD! Exactly what we need!

Do you think Chipman would sign off on having a lot of lean years rebuilding like the Rams will be doing at the cost of one Championship? It’s fair to wonder. He has also been on record saying he wants a consistent winner every season.

The Winnipeg Jets aren’t at the same level as the Rams or Lightning were where they were obvious championship caliber teams. Even if Chevy/Chipman add one or two more significant pieces… they’re not making it to Cup Finals. Yes, I know, I know… “if not now, when!?!?”… “this team needs to go all-in, they owe it to their players!”.

My opinion on this will never change. Chevy/Chipman’s strength needs to continue to be a patient draft and develop team. Using their Cap Space to gain assets. And try to find market inefficiencies to sign/trade buy-low players like DeMelo, Perreault, Stempniak, Brossoit, etc.

It’s no fluke this team currently has a bad bottom-6. 2018 they had no 1st round pick. 2019-2021 they had 4-5 draft picks per year. Eventually that stuff starts creeping up on the team.

Yes I’m fully aware most draft picks don’t work out. But the less picks you have, the odds decrease of finding NHL’ers, and there’s less room for error.

The highest profile UFA’s Winnipeg has signed in 12 years are the likes of Olli Jokinen and Steve Mason. That pretty much says it all. Draft picks are incredibly important to this team.

Well aware I’m in the minority on this opinion. But I don’t want to see this team give away more assets to inevitably not win the Cup.

Anyway… that’s all I’ll say on this matter. Cheers.

we have a bad bottom six because we recently been trading away picks? I mean none of those picks we traded away would be helping us this year anyways....

 

[Heldig]

I would see if Vancouver will accept some cheaper guys with term (Stanley, Harkins...) for Garland or Boeser. Adding a middle six scorer at low cost seems about the best we can hope for.

This team wins or loses on Helle shutting the other team down.

Not interested anymore in giving up key futures (1st, Lambert, McGroarty...) for this season.

 

[DRW204]

Another LHD! Exactly what we need!

Do you think Chipman would sign off on having a lot of lean years rebuilding like the Rams will be doing at the cost of one Championship? It’s fair to wonder. He has also been on record saying he wants a consistent winner every season.

The Winnipeg Jets aren’t at the same level as the Rams or Lightning were where they were obvious championship caliber teams. Even if Chevy/Chipman add one or two more significant pieces… they’re not making it to Cup Finals. Yes, I know, I know… “if not now, when!?!?”… “this team needs to go all-in, they owe it to their players!”.

My opinion on this will never change. Chevy/Chipman’s strength needs to continue to be a patient draft and develop team. Using their Cap Space to gain assets. And try to find market inefficiencies to sign/trade buy-low players like DeMelo, Perreault, Stempniak, Brossoit, etc.

It’s no fluke this team currently has a bad bottom-6. 2018 they had no 1st round pick. 2019-2021 they had 4-5 draft picks per year. Eventually that stuff starts creeping up on the team.

Yes I’m fully aware most draft picks don’t work out. But the less picks you have, the odds decrease of finding NHL’ers, and there’s less room for error.

The highest profile UFA’s Winnipeg has signed in 12 years are the likes of Olli Jokinen and Steve Mason. That pretty much says it all. Draft picks are incredibly important to this team.

Well aware I’m in the minority on this opinion. But I don’t want to see this team give away more assets to inevitably not win the Cup.

Anyway… that’s all I’ll say on this matter. Cheers.

the OP which i was responding to had nothing to do with the Jets. if you follow the quote-trail it was (paraphrasing) "multiple teams trading multiple 1sts to lose in the 1st round" that evidently does not apply to the Jets. also you can trade for players that are not rentals, or work out an extension. Demelo you just cited was traded for a 3rd and re-signed. and maybe get better drafting in rounds outside the 1st. if you can only rely on 1sts then you are not going anywhere.

 

[cbcwpg]

Seeing what the Eastern teams are doing , and seeing just how strong they appear, It doesn't surprise me to see the Western teams being a little gun shy on any major moves when most pundits believe ( and I kind of agree ) that whatever team comes out of the West is just a 4 game sweep for the team that comes out of the East.

There is a time and a place for "going for it"... and for the Jets it might have started out looking like they had a shot earlier this season, but not anymore.

 

[gojetsgo]

marek thinks there is alot of interest in jvr right now and vegas and the jets are in on him

 

[voyageur]

I would see if Vancouver will accept some cheaper guys with term (Stanley, Harkins...) for Garland or Boeser. Adding a middle six scorer at low cost seems about the best we can hope for.

This team wins or loses on Helle shutting the other team down.

Not interested anymore in giving up key futures (1st, Lambert, McGroarty...) for this season.

I wonder what it would take to get Hoglander out of Vancouver. He is still buried in the minors. Even with injuries and trades. Did they give up on him?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If anyone has watched the jets since about Christmas. They are far from a lock to make the playoffs themselves…..

Pretty hard for Jets to miss completely, though it could happen. But how about Sens manage to climb a couple of spots and Jets are first out? Sens 1st #15, Jets 1st #17. I would say that is not unlikely.

Chychrun would have been great but since Zona didn't want $$$ coming back, it could only happen if pionk Schmidt or Dillon were dealt first. Non issue. Handled internally

They would not have had to have been moved in the same deal. Could have been a separate deal and needn't have happened until the off-season.

 

[kanadalainen]

I would love to see the Jets in on Bjugstad and Schmaltz.

If we could work in something where Pionk goes (with next year's caphit, likely just a pipedream), that would be fine with me.

 

[Jetsfan79]

Seeing what the Eastern teams are doing , and seeing just how strong they appear, It doesn't surprise me to see the Western teams being a little gun shy on any major moves when most pundits believe ( and I kind of agree ) that whatever team comes out of the West is just a 4 game sweep for the team that comes out of the East.

There is a time and a place for "going for it"... and for the Jets it might have started out looking like they had a shot earlier this season, but not anymore.

True but West not being very strong, you would think some teams wouldn't mind spending premium assets just to make it to the final. Especially if the eastern teams beat up on eachother,. The final might not be as one sided as it would seem If just the road getting there wears out the eastern represtantive

 

[kanadalainen]

You guys are really pissing @Mortimer Snerd off right now with all these posts he has to get through already today.

Go @Mortimer Snerd Go

 

[Huffer]

Again I just don't see any teams being interested in either Pionk or Schmidt. Too much of a cap hit and too much term, and in Pionks case way too much actual salary for many teams.

Then we are not in a good position to add more cap to our D core.

 

[ATLbound]

Seeing what the Eastern teams are doing , and seeing just how strong they appear, It doesn't surprise me to see the Western teams being a little gun shy on any major moves when most pundits believe ( and I kind of agree ) that whatever team comes out of the West is just a 4 game sweep for the team that comes out of the East.

There is a time and a place for "going for it"... and for the Jets it might have started out looking like they had a shot earlier this season, but not anymore.

I like a healthy Avalanche over a beat and run down Tampa, Boston, Rangers, Leafs

 

[BoneDocUK]

Few possible trades would be as uber-meh to me as giving up actual assets for slow and still floating JVR.

When the best the pundits can say about a player is "Veteran... Playoff experience... Has shown he can score" you know said player is not that difference-maker between sweep and deep run.

Kinda like being in the Winner's shoe section and grabbing that pair of lemon Vans in the wrong size because all the styles you actually wanted were long gone but you drove all the way there, so...

 

[Truenorthducky]

Do it Chevy. Proverov

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Still think Chevy pries Parayko out of St Louis, cause there’s a thought the Blues want to get out from his 8 year deal, and grabs a couple of bottom 6 forwards.

To do that, he’ll have to move some high picks and prospects. And maybe roster guys like Pionk.

Parayko still has a full NTC. Do you think he will waive to come here?