Trade Deadline- What to Do??
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migi
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I would target Domi but obviously he is the most expensive guy of them. Leivo and Soshnikov are cheaper with talent also.
Not sure what I would pay for Domi but I think it have to include either Hartsy or Vinnie. Domi also needs a raise like Duclair too.
Personally I would trade Hartman for Domi, maybe add a pick.
Not sure what I would pay for Domi but I think it have to include either Hartsy or Vinnie. Domi also needs a raise like Duclair too.
Personally I would trade Hartman for Domi, maybe add a pick.
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Yes exactly, Pittsburgh is a good example and people forget Tampa missed the playoffs last year as well.
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No Fun Shogun
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The situation we're at is this.... our underperforming guys are getting paid too much to realistically expect to get much in return given that we'd also be looking at cap space as a return (a la the initial Campbell trade), and our attractive guys that we could trade are younger guys on cheap deals, aka the exact thing we should want to keep.
In other words, as frustrating as this is, we've got to stand pat rather than trade away dudes. Let the youngsters develop and hopefully our core takes a step forward and rights themselves in the offseason. If either/both happen, we should be in decent shape.
In other words, as frustrating as this is, we've got to stand pat rather than trade away dudes. Let the youngsters develop and hopefully our core takes a step forward and rights themselves in the offseason. If either/both happen, we should be in decent shape.
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The forwards? Probably. The defence? I really, really doubt it. The team has one good defenceman (who is 34), nothing but question marks otherwise, and no blue chip prospects. Jokiharju is fine, but the hype he gets is just evidence of how thin we are there. The defence needs to be overhauled. The team had better hope the price for competent UFA defencemen drops this offseason. I don't see trades as a likely solution either.
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BK
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There is pretty strong evidence you don't know much about HJ. He was the Finns best D at the WJC after being the 5-6th ranked Finnish D at the draft. Anyone who has watched him would know he has taken big strides since the draft. Ian Mitchell is also not just a product of "hype" as Denver is a really strong programs and JM knows how to develop NHL players. Those are just two prospect. Pipeline wise the Hawks have 5-6 D that can be NHL D on a winning team. Not all top 3 D but there are a few that have top 3 potential and a few that have bottom 3 potential.
Free agency is not how you fix a team structured like the Hawks are.
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Keith is still a decently effective blueliner worth his cap hit, so I don't see us considering moving him.
Seabrook is a bad deal that nobody will pick up unless we give up a lot.
Murphy is decent and at an okay cap hit. Good to keep, but not really someone that teams will be jumping over either.
Osterle's a promising youngster that I think we should keep and is on a cheap deal to boot.
That really leaves Gustafsson, Kempny, and Rutta, all of whom are cheap and with only one year left. Maybe they attract interest, but fairly minor moves for lower end picks and not like we'd be partying over minor picks as saving the franchise.
So bits and pieces moves are possible, but nothing that I'd highlight as slam dunk mentionables.
BK
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AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
we do have youngsters on the way in Jokiharju, Snuggy, Barratt, Hayden (full-time), Sikura, etc.. none of them will be game changers, but all "should" be serviceable NHLers that can fill a few holes for years to come.
I am fine if we stand pat, I just don't see that happening. We need help on defense, we need someone that can get some pucks to the goaltender through traffic from the point. That is something most teams covet, but I can definitely see Stan looking to get 1 or 2 players by the deadline just to shake things up further.
I brought up Montreal earlier in the thread, but a guy like Jeff Petry who I have liked for years would look very good here. Montreal is desperate for centers, so maybe move :
Anisimov - C
2018 3rd round pick or whatever pick/prospect combo
for Petry - D
Petry has a $5.5 mil cap hit which isn't horrible at all with about 3 years left on it after this year
Anisimov and his cap hit leave and we land a top pairing dman and a right shot to boot for about $1mil more per year...
Petry has a NMC, same as Anisimov, but I would seriously think he would waive it to come to Chicago ...both similar in age as well.
I am fine if we stand pat, I just don't see that happening. We need help on defense, we need someone that can get some pucks to the goaltender through traffic from the point. That is something most teams covet, but I can definitely see Stan looking to get 1 or 2 players by the deadline just to shake things up further.
I brought up Montreal earlier in the thread, but a guy like Jeff Petry who I have liked for years would look very good here. Montreal is desperate for centers, so maybe move :
Anisimov - C
2018 3rd round pick or whatever pick/prospect combo
for Petry - D
Petry has a $5.5 mil cap hit which isn't horrible at all with about 3 years left on it after this year
Anisimov and his cap hit leave and we land a top pairing dman and a right shot to boot for about $1mil more per year...
Petry has a NMC, same as Anisimov, but I would seriously think he would waive it to come to Chicago ...both similar in age as well.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
and also on a side note- please Stan stop handing out all these stupid NMC's moving forward. That shit has to stop, and he needs to stick to his guns better with offering contracts up and not handing these NMC or NTC's like candy...that has been my biggest gripe with Stan for the past few years.
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Really hope Stan is discussing Domi with Arizona. Would love to reunite him and Duke. I think Hartman and another piece or two as a starting point is something I'd be interested in. Hartman + Hayden + Pick or something like that.
Finish out the season with a very high ceiling top 12.
Domi-Toews-Duclair
Saad-Schmaltz-Kane
DeBrincat-Anisimov-Sikura
Jurco-Kampf-Hino
That's a forward group that can be championship quality. Then they get to work on retooling the D.
Finish out the season with a very high ceiling top 12.
Domi-Toews-Duclair
Saad-Schmaltz-Kane
DeBrincat-Anisimov-Sikura
Jurco-Kampf-Hino
That's a forward group that can be championship quality. Then they get to work on retooling the D.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
I actually always thought Domi was so overrated out of London just like Kerby Rychel was for Windsor...
If we did do something for Domi, I would seriously doubt he plays with Toews on the first line with the other Yotes washout in Duclair.
That would be a funny sell to fans - we get Duclair and Domi who both failed in Arizona (worst team around), and put them on our top line...
I think Domi is near done, he really isn't that good of a NHLer...he doesn't have the attributes that Duclair does, but we do pretty well with younger cast-offs like Sharp and Panik previously.
If he realizes that he needs to be a consistent energy guy, he could carve out a nice Shaw-like career for himself, but his days of being a top 6 are over IMO....3 goals in over 50 games just simply doesn't cut it.
If we did do something for Domi, I would seriously doubt he plays with Toews on the first line with the other Yotes washout in Duclair.
That would be a funny sell to fans - we get Duclair and Domi who both failed in Arizona (worst team around), and put them on our top line...
I think Domi is near done, he really isn't that good of a NHLer...he doesn't have the attributes that Duclair does, but we do pretty well with younger cast-offs like Sharp and Panik previously.
If he realizes that he needs to be a consistent energy guy, he could carve out a nice Shaw-like career for himself, but his days of being a top 6 are over IMO....3 goals in over 50 games just simply doesn't cut it.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
Maybe just me, but I don't think so anymore...
Domi has been riding his last name and draft status the past 2 years...
I wouldn't trade Hartman for Domi straight up...why on Earth would we move a guy that has 26 goals in his last 100 plus games for a guy with 12 goals in his last 100 plus games and need to add more to the trade?? both similar in age as well..
Domi has been bad the past year and a half...and by bad, I mean real bad...his passing has been abysmal and his shooting accuracy just as bad.. Domi has been getting prime ice time as well since he got into the league, his numbers are declining.
I have watched a lot of the Yotes this year following a few of my favs in Fischer, Dvorak, and Keller - Domi just doesn't pass the eye test anymore for me..
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Domi has wayyyyyy more talent than you're giving him credit for AD. I've been one of Hartman's more vocal supporters for a few years now, but I'd absolutely swap him for Domi. Domi has great puck skills, great speed, and for a little guy has no problem getting physical/initiating contact. Guy is Hinostroza but better.
He's been misused in Arizona. They've turned a guy who should be a buzz saw attacking whirling dervish winger into a timid center. Throw him on a depth scoring line with Hino and a center who can somewhat keep up with those two and look out.
Cat - Toews - Duclair
Saad - Schmaltz - Kane
Domi - AA - Hino
Jurco - Kampf - Hayden
Giggity.
He's been misused in Arizona. They've turned a guy who should be a buzz saw attacking whirling dervish winger into a timid center. Throw him on a depth scoring line with Hino and a center who can somewhat keep up with those two and look out.
Cat - Toews - Duclair
Saad - Schmaltz - Kane
Domi - AA - Hino
Jurco - Kampf - Hayden
Giggity.
