Trade Deadline- What to Do??

[RememberTheRoar]

the problem is the Bhawks isn't the only team trying to unload players for picks.

Oh, I was under the impression the Hawks were the only sellers today. Thank you for enlightening us.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Now the ticker says the Bruins have acquired F Tommy Wingels from the Senators for a fifth. Tommy's had a crazy day.

 

[Blue Liner]

Wish Tommy well. He's a solid 4th line guy. Pick up another pick, thank you very much.

 

[Teemu]

A 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and a decent prospect is pretty good for Hartman, a 5th, and two junk UFAs

 

[LDF]

well for the Bhawks players who were traded today, best of luck..... you were appreciated .

 

[LDF]

i was really hoping that sharp and jurco would have been traded as well. oh well.

 

[ChiHawks10]

No one wanted either of them. I wouldn't if I were a GM.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

So Anisimov is still a Blackhawks player?

 

[LDF]

No one wanted either of them. I wouldn't if I were a GM.

i know ...... i was being a little greedy .... since imo the Bhawks didn't do a bad job in the trading dept.

 

[LDF]

this info is a bitter reminder of not getting everything done today, meaning trading what can be traded.

 

[Robsker]

I had hoped that AA and Murphy were shipped today --- for cap reasons. Neither went. the Cap impact of what was done was near nil. So... an uneventful day. Not sure the Hawks got better... just different.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Trading Hartman saved around 1mil at the end of the day, more than likely. He was probably going to make around 2mil next year. His replacement will make 1mil or less.

 

[Robsker]

Trading Hartman saved around 1mil at the end of the day, more than likely. He was probably going to make around 2mil next year. His replacement will make 1mil or less.

Sure... so not much of a Cap change. Had AA gone it would have been 3X that and then some. Murphy gone would be 2.5X that (or slightly more). So... I guess no good deals out there for those two guys. I trust Stan so I guess that no one offered what he wanted for these guys.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I don't think Stan wanted to move Murphy. He's probably the second best defenseman on the team.

 

[hawksrule]

Very surprised AA is still here.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I had hoped that AA and Murphy were shipped today --- for cap reasons. Neither went. the Cap impact of what was done was near nil. So... an uneventful day. Not sure the Hawks got better... just different.

Murphy is part of the future. There's no reason to move him. Especially considering the cap is projected to go up by 3-7m next season. AA would have been fine, but if the right offer wasn't there(the reported offer from CBJ was a disgusting low-ball offer), then it's better to keep him.

If it even goes up somewhere in the middle like 5m, the Hawks will have little to no issues as far as cap dollars go.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Very surprised AA is still here.

Not I.

Contract and NMC always meant it would be hard to move. I think this offseason is more realistic, when NMC become NTC where he has to submit 10 teams. Still wouldn't be shocked if he's here opening day next year though.

 

[Robsker]

Murphy is part of the future. There's no reason to move him. Especially considering the cap is projected to go up by 3-7m next season. AA would have been fine, but if the right offer wasn't there(the project offer from CBJ was a disgusting low-ball offer), then it's better to keep him.

If it even goes up somewhere in the middle like 5m, the Hawks will have little to no issues as far as cap dollars go.

The hawks need 2 Top-4 D-men and a Top-6 forward to become again competitive... on the free agent market to get all that will require ca. 13-15M. And they must retain several coming up. So... no, you are right, if the roster stays basically the same as now (or changes w/ cheap options, the Cap is not an issue --- but making the playoffs will be unlikely. If you are looking for the team to improve its roster, it must shed many millions as we have many guys playing way, way, way below their Cap hit. And then we need to get no less than 3 major guys.

So... Cap issues are the thing that prevents the Hawks from becoming competitive.

 

[Robsker]

Murphy may be part of the future --- but he makes 3.5M and can be replaces for well less than 1/2 that w/o any drop off (or little drop off). So... if you can move him... do it.

 

[Teemu]

Not I.

Contract and NMC always meant it would be hard to move. I think this offseason is more realistic, when NMC become NTC where he has to submit 10 teams. Still wouldn't be shocked if he's here opening day next year though.

Even if there was a team Anisimov wanted to go to, it made no sense to irrecoverably waive his NMC when he can just add that team to his list in the offseason and retain control of where he wants to go

 

[ChiHawks10]

The hawks need 2 Top-4 D-men and a Top-6 forward to become again competitive... on the free agent market to get all that will require ca. 13-15M. And they must retain several coming up. So... no, you are right, if the roster stays basically the same as now (or changes w/ cheap options, the Cap is not an issue --- but making the playoffs will be unlikely. If you are looking for the team to improve its roster, it must shed many millions as we have many guys playing way, way, way below their Cap hit. And then we need to get no less than 3 major guys.

So... Cap issues are the thing that prevents the Hawks from becoming competitive.

Murphy may be part of the future --- but he makes 3.5M and can be replaces for well less than 1/2 that w/o any drop off (or little drop off). So... if you can move him... do it.

Disagree that the cap will be a huge issue and that it will keep the team from even making the playoffs moving forward.

Disagree that Murphy can be replaced with little drop off by a 1.5-1.75m defender. And I'll leave it at that.

 

[AmericanDream]

Not I.

Contract and NMC always meant it would be hard to move. I think this offseason is more realistic, when NMC become NTC where he has to submit 10 teams. Still wouldn't be shocked if he's here opening day next year though.

I don't know what to think anymore to be honest with AA. the value typically drops a bit around the draft as teams aren't feeling pressure to make that playoff push. I take it Bowman did not like the return he was getting for AA and said "f*** off" and I can live with that 100% as you don't buckle on value. We are not in a desperate need to move him yet, he becomes more important to move at the draft if we think we can target a guy like De Haan or throw a contract towards Stastny if the Jets can't re-sign him.

We now will be without Hartman and his likely $2-2.3 mil so that offers up a little more flexibility but we need help on defense and by help I mean a legit top 4 defender in this league. Not sure if De Haan is "THE" answer but he is likely the best target we can get in our price range...Until Seabs can get bought out, all eyes will be on AA and his contract to be moved for the draft and beyond.

 

[AmericanDream]

Even if there was a team Anisimov wanted to go to, it made no sense to irrecoverably waive his NMC when he can just add that team to his list in the offseason and retain control of where he wants to go

agreed, but these players still want to be in the playoffs every year, I would find it hard for him to say no to Columbus for their playoff push and to play alongside his buddy Panarin.

 

[BK]

The hawks need 2 Top-4 D-men and a Top-6 forward to become again competitive... on the free agent market to get all that will require ca. 13-15M. And they must retain several coming up. So... no, you are right, if the roster stays basically the same as now (or changes w/ cheap options, the Cap is not an issue --- but making the playoffs will be unlikely. If you are looking for the team to improve its roster, it must shed many millions as we have many guys playing way, way, way below their Cap hit. And then we need to get no less than 3 major guys.

So... Cap issues are the thing that prevents the Hawks from becoming competitive.

Are you just assuming the Hawks will have 0 player development? Seems that way.

Forsling will hopefully take the next step so there is one of your top 4 needed. Pair him with Murphy on the second pairing. HJ will most likely be signed and while I would not hold my breath that he will be ready at 19-20 I do think he could work next to Keith. Bottom pairing you have Dahlstrom, Rutta, Snuggy, etc. Longterm you have Mitchell, Krys, and others in the pipeline. Seabrook is Seabrook.

Top 6 is much easier. 12/40/48/DS/91 are all player who could take the next step and play next to 19/20 and 8/88. For balance reasons I would roll 20-19-12, 40-8-88, and DS/91-15/48. You also have players like 64, MH, Fortin, etc. that are in Rockford developing.

 

[AmericanDream]

why haven't we waived Sharp yet? can we just throw the towel in and say goodbye to Sharpie who I love...but man it's over...