GDT: Trade Deadline week around the league

[A Star is Burns]

Obviously, Dundon talking about aggressiveness (though I'm pretty certain right after that he talked about only so many guys moving the needle and people seem to ignore that) and the many big moves raised the deadline expectations and the level of emotion. We also had some space and assets and a need for a goal scorer.

But I feel like we kinda had a normal deadline for most years and most teams. In most years, you have one or two top tier guys move and then a bunch of other....stuff. We got a couple of pieces that can fill some needs for depth. That's for the most part a typical deadline even though it feels worse because of the surrounding circumstances.

 

[MisterDobz]

We went into this year with a problem of replacing Nino, Tro, and needing to add a Patches. I think Nino has been generally replaced overall, but our plan to have Kk as 2C missed and we don’t have Patches. I don’t know that this deadline had the answers but it’s hard to be overly optimistic we’re going to be better this playoff than last. We’ll see if one years growth, Burns and the deadline guys are enough.

In the end this team played well enough to roll with what we have, but I do question the team building if we miss this year. I hope they don’t cling so dearly to assets in the off season.

Can we just fast forward to the playoffs now?

Sadly, I think we can fast forward to the off season.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Carolina gonna go out and raw dog the Playoffs, win a Cup and nobody will ever trade a top pick for a player ever again. Breaking boundaries.

You joke about this, but if the Canes do make it out the East, it's very possible that they single-handedly return the deadline market to normal. The league went bonkers in 2007, the team that did nothing major won (Anaheim) and we didn't see anything like it again for 16 years.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

It was an exaggeration. I don't mind them not going all in, but if they go deep into the playoffs, fans will forget this deadline. If they get knocked out in the 1st round or get beaten badly in the 2nd, fans will be upset about this deadline.

If they get knocked out before the ECF, fans will analyze everything, not just this deadline, because that's how fans are. In the end, it's a results business. That's why good coaches are constantly getting fired.

 

[dogbazinho]

Where can we watch this zoom call?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Obviously, Dundon talking about aggressiveness (though I'm pretty certain right after that he talked about only so many guys moving the needle and people seem to ignore that) and the many big moves raised the deadline expectations and the level of emotion. We also had some space and assets and a need for a goal scorer.

But I feel like we kinda had a normal deadline for most years and most teams. In most years, you have one or two top tier guys move and then a bunch of other....stuff. We got a couple of pieces that can fill some needs for depth. That's for the most part a typical deadline even though it feels worse because of the surrounding circumstances.

Henrik Lundkvist said the same thing on the broadcast the other night when Weekes said the Canes needed to make a move. He stated the Canes record and said (paraphrasing( "Normally I wouldn't make a move with a team like that. It just seems like they need to because everyone else is".

 

[Incubajerks]

That's fine with me, many rival teams have invested a lot especially in terms of picks, next year they won't all be aggressive, and I'm sure that next year at the deadline we'll make the big splash.

 

[Stickpucker]

I would've been fine and expected this had TD not opened his mouth.

Now I'm mad.

 

[chaz4hockey]

We went into this year with a problem of replacing Nino, Tro, and needing to add a Patches. I think Nino has been generally replaced overall, but our plan to have Kk as 2C missed and we don’t have Patches. I don’t know that this deadline had the answers but it’s hard to be overly optimistic we’re going to be better this playoff than last. We’ll see if one years growth, Burns and the deadline guys are enough.

In the end this team played well enough to roll with what we have, but I do question the team building if we miss this year. I hope they don’t cling so dearly to assets in the off season.

Can we just fast forward to the playoffs now?

For me, Necas and Burns plus our D scoring more this year are the positives despite losing Tro and Nino. Plus, we have a healthy albeit playing less effectively Freddie. Plus, Pool party is probably a Fast replacement (and younger bigger faster).

The negatives are the goal scoring miss plus our 3D vulnerability (to repeat why we needed Chryrun).

Is Waddell’s press conference accessible?

 

[dogbazinho]

But I feel like we kinda had a normal deadline for most years and most teams. In most years, you have one or two top tier guys move and then a bunch of other....stuff. We got a couple of pieces that can fill some needs for depth. That's for the most part a typical deadline even though it feels worse because of the surrounding circumstances.

It was a normal deadline for us BUT we did lose a star player and never addressed it. Now maybe you write this year off due to injury but if we continue to lose players on UFA and don't make smart additions, we won't sustain.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If they get knocked out before the ECF, fans will analyze everything, not just this deadline, because that's how fans are. In the end, it's a results business. That's why good coaches are constantly getting fired.

Absolutely true. This deadline though was unique in terms of how many teams made major moves, but in the end, it will only be worth it for one of them so I suspect it will get more scrutiny, right or wrong.

 

[Svechhammer]

Dundon publicly spoke about how the front office would approach the deadline as being more aggressive than ever.

Brind'Amour went on Spittin Chiclets and talked about how we needed to add a goal scorer after the Patches injury

The anger right now is absolutely justified. Our own coach and our own owner set the expectation that serious help would be coming, so to end up with only Gostbear and Poolparty is an absolute failure of the front office to deliver on their own hype.

At this point they have to at least make the ECF this year or there is going to be hell to pay among the fans in Raleigh. That might not be fair and there is absolute a lot of variables in play to get to that point, but when you effectively sit out the trade deadline when everyone around you in the standings, especially those who are going to be in your way to get our of the Metro and into the ECF, you are gambling that what you have is guaranteed good enough. And if it isn't, you're putting your own ass on the line.

 

[chaz4hockey]

That's fine with me, many rival teams have invested a lot especially in terms of picks, next year they won't all be aggressive, and I'm sure that next year at the deadline we'll make the big splash.

Perhaps but this front office seems to prefer 28-32 first plus second round draft picks.

As the line goes, I’m from Missouri on the front office making moves next TDL They had cap space and didn’t weaponize it this year.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Dundon publicly spoke about how the front office would approach the deadline as being more aggressive than ever.

Brind'Amour went on Spittin Chiclets and talked about how we needed to add a goal scorer after the Patches injury

The anger right now is absolutely justified. Our own coach and our own owner set the expectation that serious help would be coming, so to end up with only Gostbear and Poolparty is an absolute failure of the front office to deliver on their own hype.

At this point they have to at least make the ECF this year or there is going to be hell to pay among the fans in Raleigh. That might not be fair and there is absolute a lot of variables in play to get to that point, but when you effectively sit out the trade deadline when everyone around you in the standings, especially those who are going to be in your way to get our of the Metro and into the ECF, you are gambling that what you have is guaranteed good enough. And if it isn't, you're putting your own ass on the line.

LOL, c'mon. What kind of "hell to pay" could there be? a small number of fans whining in social media?

 

[Incubajerks]

Dundon publicly spoke about how the front office would approach the deadline as being more aggressive than ever.

Brind'Amour went on Spittin Chiclets and talked about how we needed to add a goal scorer after the Patches injury

The anger right now is absolutely justified. Our own coach and our own owner set the expectation that serious help would be coming, so to end up with only Gostbear and Poolparty is an absolute failure of the front office to deliver on their own hype.

At this point they have to at least make the ECF this year or there is going to be hell to pay among the fans in Raleigh. That might not be fair and there is absolute a lot of variables in play to get to that point, but when you effectively sit out the trade deadline when everyone around you in the standings, especially those who are going to be in your way to get our of the Metro and into the ECF, you are gambling that what you have is guaranteed good enough. And if it isn't, you're putting your own ass on the line.

I understand your sentiment, it just seems too harsh to me...

 

[Stickpucker]

I'm going to say this right now.

If this team is going to hit the next level Svechnikov needs to find that next gear. he CANNOT disappear in the playoffs.

For his development he basically has this playoff and next season to turn into a ppg+ 40g scorer or what we have now is what he is. If he doesn't show us more I'll be honest....I'd be disappointed.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I guess with Pathes, they can also say, "Sure, we wanted to have the goal scorer and that's why we acquired him. But we have also seen this team play at a high level without him for almost the entire season. We tried to get the best guy to replace him, and after that, we didn't really see someone that would effectively replace that."

 

[Novacane]

I’m seriously beside myself that they did literally nothing today. I wasn’t expecting a big splash, but at least a depth move or two.

 

[raynman]

Perhaps but this front office seems to prefer 28-32 first plus second round draft picks.

As the line goes, I’m from Missouri on the front office making moves next TDL They had cap space and didn’t weaponize it this year.

They’re just going to trade back to the 2nd round and acquire another pick

 

[Incubajerks]

Perhaps but this front office seems to prefer 28-32 first plus second round draft picks.

As the line goes, I’m from Missouri on the front office making moves next TDL They had cap space and didn’t weaponize it this year.

If they yielded Jarvis would have been criticism all the same. Ditto with Morrow and Nik.

 

[chaz4hockey]

I’m seriously beside myself that they did literally nothing today. I wasn’t expecting a big splash, but at least a depth move or two.

“depth”

Welcome to Rees, Pono and maybe Suzuki if injuries occur (which they almost always do).

 

[Lempo]

And done.

Technically the trades need to be in by 3 p.m., but then there may be x amount of delay as the NHL Central Registry will validate that all the terms of the trade are legal, onlty after which the trade will be official. So there may be some late reportings well past 3 p.m.

Generally speaking.

 

[chaz4hockey]

If they yielded Jarvis would have been criticism all the same. Ditto with Morrow and Nik.

Jarvis and nik I’d keep. Morrow for Meier or Horvat would have been acceptable

 

[MinJaBen]

I’m seriously beside myself that they did literally nothing today. I wasn’t expecting a big splash, but at least a depth move or two.

The big splash was the cold water being dumped on the fanbase to bring them back to reality: this is the Canes, we wade in the shallow end of the trade pool. We leave the deepend for the other teams.

 

[whiskers]

most boring trade dead line ever , its like getting excited for Super Bowl halftime show and they play a tape of elevator music.