GDT: Trade Deadline - Trade Eatin' SZN

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So if everything works out and AA produces lets say 35G 35A on McDavids wing next year, you have zero problem signing him to a 7x7 contract per say?

I would consider it, or at those numbers you could also trade him for another player that comes in and scores 30 with McDavid. We win either way. This is seriously a dumb problem to worry about.

You want to have these kinds of problems.

 

[Cloned]

I would consider it, or at those numbers you could also trade him for another player that comes in and scores 30 with McDavid. We win either way. This is seriously a dumb problem to worry about.

You want to have these kinds of problems.

I have no idea how some people can post sky-high optimistic scenarios in terms of production and somehow turn it into a negative situation overall.

This is like saying what if I win the lottery tomorrow, have a beautiful woman (eg. Melissa Benoist) want to marry me, and then worrying about signing the prenup. Yes, it's technically a problem, but it's 100x better than having no money and no wife but hey, I don't have to worry about signing a prenup.

 

[Samus44]

Not really sure why the offseason matters right now, but someone took Lucic, straight up, so there's definitely a possibility of moving Neal.

No they didn't. Edmonton retained 750k and got another bad contract in return. Neal is a better player but with retention they're essentially paying 1.25 million more for Neal's services and Neal is a 3 million dollar player tops. It was the best of a bad situation but it's still bad.

The nice thing is if the Oilers are a contender come next deadline a Backes type deal may be a lot easier to make then dumping him in the off season.

 

[Anarchism]

Gotta feel for Ottawa...not resigning Pageau for 5 million...
Chris Tierney Plays 25 minutes tonight....

I really thought Ottawa would resign Pageau in the end and Tierney would be the money saving option that they would pop loose....

Maybe the money situation there is truly dire...

 

[Jesus Take the Wheel]

I would consider it, or at those numbers you could also trade him for another player that comes in and scores 30 with McDavid. We win either way. This is seriously a dumb problem to worry about.

You want to have these kinds of problems.

Why is it a dump problem to worry about, one of the big "perks" of us getting AA is the fact is he is RFA instead of a UFA, yet from the past AA is a pain in the ass in contract negotations and he will likely only get harder as he approaches UFA status and is now arbitration eligible. Just seems like an odd choice from Hollands standpoint of a player to target besides the Detroit connection.

I have no idea how some people can post sky-high optimistic scenarios in terms of production and somehow turn it into a negative situation overall.

This is like saying what if I win the lottery tomorrow, have a beautiful woman (eg. Melissa Benoist) want to marry me, and then worrying about signing the prenup. Yes, it's technically a problem, but it's 100x better than having no money and no wife but hey, I don't have to worry about signing a prenup.

But isn't that exactly how you end up with no money and no wife 2 years later..

 

[Cloned]

Why is it a dump problem to worry about, one of the big "perks" of us getting AA is the fact is he is RFA instead of a UFA, yet from the past AA is a pain in the ass in contract negotations and he will likely only get harder as he approaches UFA status and is now arbitration eligible. Just seems like an odd choice from Hollands standpoint of a player to target besides the Detroit connection.



But isn't that exactly how you end up with no money and no wife 2 years later..

You can't trade wives in real life, but you can trade players in the NHL.

 

[OilerTitanFan]

Why are all of your posts dumb nonsense?

Where were you when Yamamoto was being dumped for a 3rd rounder just to salvage a garbage pick by Chiarelli?

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Somehow Chia still has a job with a NHL team.

Only thanks to his BFF.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Holland must have some legit clout in the league to get such good bargains. I swear that's the most important thing as a GM.

IMO it’s not about clout but respect and a reputation for fairness. But whatever it is I agree it’s absolutely critical. A new GM has to establish that and it takes years.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

I didn't have to fear for the returns on the trades this time, unlike last year with Chia. Good trades, hopefully they work outView attachment 326499

I used to love political cartoons. These single
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[Nostradumbass]

I'm fine with paying good players, but I'm not a fan of paying a guy for the 20 point boost they get playing with the best player in the league.. Which is what I'd expect to happen if AA thrives on a line with McDavid based on the prior difficulties he gave Holland in contract negotiations

Which is what the Oilers offered Maroon and paid Kassian. They need the Pittsburgh model: pump up the value and dump for picks/prospects to keep the cycle going.

 

[Cloned]

IMO it’s not about clout but respect and a reputation for fairness. But whatever it is I agree it’s absolutely critical. A new GM has to establish that and it takes years.

Brisebois in TB is in danger of garnering a suckers reputation. He's lucky he has such a deep base of assets to draw from initially, because he still has time to recover, but man he's bleeding assets left and right. I got a kick out of watching the vet GM Doug Wilson school him today, literally daring Brisebois to blink on Goodrow until Brisebois finally did at the last minute and gave up their first rounder for a 30 point player.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Brisebois in TB is in danger of garnering a suckers reputation. He's lucky he has such a deep base of assets to draw from initially, because he still has time to recover, but man he's bleeding assets left and right. I got a kick out of watching the vet GM Doug Wilson school him today, literally daring Brisebois to blink on Goodrow until Brisebois finally did at the last minute and gave up their first rounder for a 30 point player.

He paid a very high price for Coleman as well. That said he got a first for Miller and will probably get a first for Killorn from a desperate manager at the draft. It will be interesting to see how he manages their assets after this season is done as they are entering cap hell.

 

[Cloned]

He paid a very high price for Coleman as well. That said he got a first for Miller and will probably get a first for Killorn from a desperate manager at the draft. It will be interesting to see how he manages their assets after this season is done as they are entering cap hell.

If he keeps down this route, he'll sewer that team within 5 years.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

If he keeps down this route, he'll sewer that team within 5 years.

Crunch time may be when Points bridge deal is up in 2 years. To qualify him will be over $9M. They have Kucherov and Vasilevsky at 19M, Stamkos and Hedman at 16M and a lot of RFAs to resign then.

 

[Aerrol]

I didn't have to fear for the returns on the trades this time, unlike last year with Chia. Good trades, hopefully they work outView attachment 326499

We need a stickied thread compiling all of these! @McDNicks17?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

No they didn't. Edmonton retained 750k and got another bad contract in return. Neal is a better player but with retention they're essentially paying 1.25 million more for Neal's services and Neal is a 3 million dollar player tops. It was the best of a bad situation but it's still bad.

The nice thing is if the Oilers are a contender come next deadline a Backes type deal may be a lot easier to make then dumping him in the off season.

So what you're saying is you would rather have Lucic because of $750K, nice that's a solid assessment of the situation.

 

[joestevens29]

You can't trade wives in real life, but you can trade players in the NHL.

Sure you can

 

[McCombo]

Yeah, I'm surprised the Lightning did almost nothing to address their blueline. Their top guys are great, but their depth his atrocious. Bogosian makes it better, but Luke Schenn is playing regular minutes for that, that is not good.

Hedman-McDonagh
Sergachev-Cernak
Coburn-Shattenkirk
Schenn-Bogosian

I think they are more than fine. Absolutely sick roster all-around.

 

[Seachd]

I don’t think I’ve seen a GM do this before, but in a tight year like this, I could see it being plausible.

If, near the end of the season, a team needs something like 2 wins in its last 3 to make the playoffs, and teams like Florida and Nashville are out, I wonder if a GM would think outside the box and try to snag someone like Hoffman or Granlund to help.

I imagine the price would be something along the lines of trading the rights to any upcoming UFA, but the timing makes it interesting.

They wouldn’t be able to play in the playoffs, but could certainly help get a team there.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Hedman-McDonagh
Sergachev-Cernak
Coburn-Shattenkirk
Schenn-Bogosian

I think they are more than fine. Absolutely sick roster all-around.

Apparently McDonagh is having a terrible year, and he's hurt, and Coburn has taken a big step back. I know they'll be fine, but it's a pretty glaring area of weakness.

 

[McCombo]

Apparently McDonagh is having a terrible year, and he's hurt, and Coburn has taken a big step back. I know they'll be fine, but it's a pretty glaring area of weakness.

Ofc Coburn isn't in his prime but I think he can handle 3rd pairing minutes. Weakness compared to what?

 

[McShogun99]

Maybe he does sign a one year deal that isn't too bad, but if he does cash in on McDavids wing, I dont think it'll be a very team friendly deal after that..

Like I said its tbd, but from what I remember Holland had a tough time dealing with him and his agent after a 33 point career high season, now he has a 30 goal 54 point season in the bag and if he does well on this team next year, I dont see the negotiations getting any easier..

If he has a good year and it seems like he wants to much or wants to play somewhere else then we can always trade him and get a similar or greater return by then.

 

[McShogun99]

No they didn't. Edmonton retained 750k and got another bad contract in return. Neal is a better player but with retention they're essentially paying 1.25 million more for Neal's services and Neal is a 3 million dollar player tops. It was the best of a bad situation but it's still bad.

The nice thing is if the Oilers are a contender come next deadline a Backes type deal may be a lot easier to make then dumping him in the off season.

Neal’s earning his money this year. If he wasn’t injured he probably would have scored somewhere between 25-30 goals this year and is a big part of our league leading PP. The problem with his deal is that it’s to long and he could become useless as soon as next season.

 

[Arpeggio]

I don’t think I’ve seen a GM do this before, but in a tight year like this, I could see it being plausible.

If, near the end of the season, a team needs something like 2 wins in its last 3 to make the playoffs, and teams like Florida and Nashville are out, I wonder if a GM would think outside the box and try to snag someone like Hoffman or Granlund to help.

I imagine the price would be something along the lines of trading the rights to any upcoming UFA, but the timing makes it interesting.

They wouldn’t be able to play in the playoffs, but could certainly help get a team there.

It's funny you brought this up, I was just thinking of the exact same scenario this morning. I wonder why it hasn't been done before? There has to have been a situation where a team bought a star at the deadline and then fell out of the race, and then another team had to win 3-4 games at the end of the year to make the playoffs. You would think that would be worth a 4-5th round pick in the right situation.