Confirmed with Link: Trade deadline thread

[Ulf5]

3 burning questions for kyle, DesertedPenguin pass it along. You're definitely a journalist.
1- why wasn't Dubas in on Zetterlund? The return doesn't seem to have high ceilings and a 2nd?
2- why is Acciari still here?
3- why is Grizz still here?

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Man, Zetterlund is exactly what we need. I agree, that was definitely a miss. As for 2 and 3, it is rather puzzling especially with reports that Acciari had generated interest. Grz, it sounds like the offers were low vis-a-vis his 2024-25 campaign. Personally, I would not have cared about that one iota. But it is what it is.

A cynic would suggest Mike Sullivan is the reason Matt Grzelcyk and Noal Acciari are still Penguins. Because Dubas's comments did not sound like a guy who was eager to re-sign his No. 1 left defenseman.

The biggest disappointment is that Dubas is not allowed to trade his head coach anymore.

 

[Michael Farkas]

What does this even mean? Do you have MRI vision? First question is serious. So is the second.

No, of course not. Don't be silly. It's EMG vision haha

You can reasonably surmise this in a lot of ways after a while, it's difficult to describe via text. But you can reasonably determine fast-twitch/quick twitch dominance by explosivity, the body's rapid response to changing conditions/stimuli...this carries in a lot of areas, feet, hand dexterity, etc. Timmins is more of a lug. This naturally reduces your highest potential/ceiling (though, he's well on in his development arcs, so it's not like he was going anywhere fast anyhow...which ought to be the title of his memoirs)...

Imperfect science? Nah, it's not science at all...

 

[66-30-33]

Really does seem like the Rantanen Saga f***ed up the whole market. If it got resolved earlier, Rakell would have been the next option and teams would have had more time to figure stuff out

Why Oilers? Pens had Crosby/Malkin and nobody seemed to wanna come here and we actually won things, unlike the Oilers.

 

[66-30-33]

He likes Sid but I have no idea why he would come here and sign a presumably 8 year contract and then spend the back half of that with Sid retired and a garbage team behind him.

And even as much as he likes Sid I'm sure he's smart enough to realize there's no future of contention here.

If Marner comes here it's because he likes Dubas/Sid and because Dubas gives him an absolutely absurd contract. And I doubt even that would be enough.

We need to stick to rebuilding. Take on other teams crap for good returns, it's what we are now.

 

[Ulf5]

Yea but that seems pretty imprudent to ask in a year where you are trying to win the Cup. I dunno, maybe I'm reading too much into it but you want your stars being 100% all-in.

Sources: Hurricanes asked for Maple Leafs' Marner in Rantanen deal

Post-deadline, there are always stories seeping out … some things that don’t happen, some that did. One that continues to evolve is what happened before Mikko Rantanen was traded from Carolina to Dallas.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[DesertedPenguin]

3 burning questions for kyle, DesertedPenguin pass it along. You're definitely a journalist.
1- why wasn't Dubas in on Zetterlund? The return doesn't seem to have high ceilings and a 2nd?
2- why is Acciari still here?
3- why is Grizz still here?

I think these are fairly self explanatory.

Zetterlund may fit stylistically, but he is an RFA who will get a reasonable salary increase with his next contract. His contract status and age (25) make him kind of an awkward fit for the Pens' plan. Novak is older but cheaper than what Zetterlund will be, and his contract will expire faster. That gives the Pens greater flexibility.

No one wanted Acciari at his current cap cost and Dubas didn't want to retain.

And the market likely wasn't there for Grz. The Pens can now keep him, see what moves they make through the draft, and decide whether they want/need to bring him back next year if they need a LD.

 

[Pancakes]

We need to stick to rebuilding. Take on other teams crap for good returns, it's what we are now.

Agreed. I've said it elsewhere but it's too early to pivot towards trying to compete.

Tank for another year or two and then take a shot at it when Sid is 40. There should be some prospects graduating to the NHL by then as well as some space to fill out the roster with better players via FA/trade.

 

[Gurglesons]

We need to stick to rebuilding. Take on other teams crap for good returns, it's what we are now.

You can rebuild if you do it correctly with Marner.

Look at us this year.

Maybe we are a playoff team next year after picking top 5 and then Malkin and EK depart and we are back to a fringe team who in the right situation goes bottom 5.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

I just hope Dubas has the brains to dangle one of Rust or Rakell (or both!) to teams that miss out on signing big names in the first few days of FA. Don't think you're getting a draft floor deal for Rakell.

I could maybe see a draft floor deal for Rakell because it's being 'held' in Los Angeles and I could see them wanting to make a big trade announcement in their own arena.
Otherwise, I think you're right; Rakell will go after free agency starts after teams get sticker shock from seeing all the new signings.

 

[Ulf5]

I think these are fairly self explanatory.

Zetterlund may fit stylistically, but he is an RFA who will get a reasonable salary increase with his next contract. His contract status and age (25) make him kind of an awkward fit for the Pens' plan. Novak is older but cheaper than what Zetterlund will be, and his contract will expire faster. That gives the Pens greater flexibility.

No one wanted Acciari at his current cap cost and Dubas didn't want to retain.

And the market likely wasn't there for Grz. The Pens can now keep him, see what moves they make through the draft, and decide whether they want/need to bring him back next year if they need a LD.

I think Grizz could've at least got a 3rd. Maybe Dubas felt that wasn't worth trading him for.
After reading several teams were interested in Acciari guess I let my hopes create stronger interest than there was.
If retention was required I'd probably shut that down too.

 

[Turin]

Pens are icing an AHL tier left D and bottom six and goaltending and still can't out-tank the f***ing Sabres who were supposed to be done rebuilding 6 years ago.

 

[Pancakes]

You can rebuild if you do it correctly with Marner.

Look at us this year.

Maybe we are a playoff team next year after picking top 5 and then Malkin and EK depart and we are back to a fringe team who in the right situation goes bottom 5.

I mean honestly I don't want to pivot towards contending this off season.

But having said that the east was so trash this year that if the Pens had a goalie and a coach they would have had a chance to sneak in as sad as that sounds.

But this team is pretty far from contending for more than a first round exit even in that scneario

 

[Gurglesons]

I could maybe see a draft floor deal for Rakell because it's being 'held' in Los Angeles and I could see them wanting to make a big trade announcement in their own arena.
Otherwise, I think you're right; Rakell will go after free agency starts after teams get sticker shock from seeing all the new signings.

I don’t think we are moving Rakell.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Pens are icing an AHL tier left D and bottom six and goaltending and still can't out-tank the f***ing Sabres who were supposed to be done rebuilding 6 years ago.

Another reason to think that Buffalo might be ripe for the picking this off season.

Have to figure a new GM is coming in there. They'll want to shake things up. Maybe some valuable young pieces are on the block.