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Big Friggin Dummy said:
I just hope Dubas has the brains to dangle one of Rust or Rakell (or both!) to teams that miss out on signing big names in the first few days of FA. Don't think you're getting a draft floor deal for Rakell.
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With where this team is both need to be gone if they can get first round picks in 2026 or great prospects/young players…as I mentioned before, try packaging some of our picks with them for young NHL players if you need to…the goal should be 24 and younger players around Sid and G..to get to cap floor, take on picks from teams looking to get rid of high priced vets…profit with 1OA pick in 2026 lol
 
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Big Friggin Dummy said:
I just hope Dubas has the brains to dangle one of Rust or Rakell (or both!) to teams that miss out on signing big names in the first few days of FA. Don't think you're getting a draft floor deal for Rakell.
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He is going to sign Marner and trade Rakell to Toronto for Cowen + a 2nd to make the fan base completely melt down
 
Andy99 said:
With where this team is both need to be gone if they can get first round picks in 2026 or great prospects/young players…as I mentioned before, try packaging some of our picks with them for young NHL players if you need to…the goal should be 24 and younger players around Sid and G..to get to cap floor, take on picks from teams looking to get rid of high priced vets…profit with 1OA pick in 2026 lol
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Yeah, I think Dubas is too caught up in wanting young players instead of 1sts or whatever. Listen, 1sts are way more universally traded currency. You don't have to make the picks with those 1sts, you can flip them for a guy like Peterka or a similar caliber young guy who is on the block or whatever.
 
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It comes down to what Dubas gets back in Karlsson. If he gets a good RW, then Rust to me is the RW I move with his NMC gone and his salary lower the next 3 years.
 
Andy99 said:
They’re not going to get someone’s top player or good young player in the NHL for Rakell…they’re not trading Rantanen here…but they could get a top prospect and a first…and they should have moved him while his value was at its highest…




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Rantanen didn't even get that.

A couple late 1sts and 3rds and a midget 2nd rounder, Stankoven.
 
This was posted on another site for what it’s worth regarding why Rakell didn’t move:

“I honestly don't think that's the reason. We undoubtedly could have gotten a quality package, particularly if you look at what we got for cast offs. I think KD got too finicky as to what the assets were. I heard from a couple ppl I know, who know, that we could have gotten Brandt Clarke. Or so they thought, but the brain trust wasn't overly high on him so they passed. Likely a draft pick and camp dump were involved.

I'm not sure how good he is, I know some were questioning as to if he was more a PP specialist but..”
 
Andy99 said:
See comment above…
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More speculation... Nobody knows what the offer was, but we know what they were asking for.

Remember, they didn't have to trade him, and they didn't. They did not meet their requirements.

Top player as in "Moore" not a Kempe, 2 top prospects, any 2 of Laferriere, Clarke, Spence, Turcotte. Remember the NHL ready part? and probably whatever to make up the difference of who/what else goes LA's way with Rakell.

They were not interested in 1sts.
 
From listening to Kipper (I know he's an idiot but he still has some contacts) it sounds like we had a deal with Carolina. It fell though cause they needed the Rant deal to fully go through and adjust their cap before adding Rak, which took too long.

IMO, CAR screwing up that deal really slowed the day down for everyone.
 
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Not sure if you guys are interested or whatever...couple of notes on guys coming in...

Conor Timmins (RD) - This is a real fix'er up'er...

He looks like a player that has no confidence. You look at his rush absorption technique, and he's really caught in between. He tries to adjust with all of these backward crossovers that are really inefficient. So, he creates these deficits for himself and he doesn't have the explosiveness to get out of them. Heavy boots. No quick twitch muscle fiber in there that I can detect. Also, he's surprisingly poor in his box out technique for this size and experience level. I don't think he's a very good athlete in general. He can snap some pucks up the ice. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by his outlet passing. Loose gap player who will lose his leverage to block shots to try to cover for the looseness of his gaps and his lack of confidence about what will happen next. But he's a weird player. I had an image in my head that he's a defensive-minded player...but it's actually his indecision that makes him look like that. He's actually a player with no obvious role.

One thing that's nice about our current structure and tactics is that he'll be encouraged to go...go downhill, go keep the line, go 'head and stretch the puck north (which there might be some underlying upside there actually)...I just wonder if this player can get out of his own way to become a regular NHLer. I don't necessarily feel like that's likely...but sometimes guys fit into a situation and it works out for a bit, in some respects, there's some real advantages for d-men like this here...but sometimes it's tough to break some habits (as we're seeing in the kid from Utah early on)...so we'll see...

Connor Dewar is basically just Nieto...so who cares...

Max Graham (LW/C) - Hasn't played in two months down in Kelowna (WHL). "A" for the last two seasons, "C" this season. This is sort of a run of the mill junior player. Big kid, skates pretty well, but without good edges. He means well. But he gets sucked into some poor choices watching the puck. I question his overall spatial awareness. I almost can see that he's thinking hard about doing the right thing, but in that thinking, the right timing has passed him by. He's 6'3", 209 but isn't good along the boards. Again, there's a pace and timing situation here. There's a technique situation. Some of it can be helped along, some probably not. Not dynamic with the puck. I don't know what the hook is here? Like, what will get him into the NHL?

I didn't have a lot of time for Josh Doan when I first saw him in the USHL...I knew he'd get picked because he's Shane gosh darn Doan's kid, but I didn't really see it. Doaner just took over the boards eventually. Board play doesn't start on the wall, and he understands that. And now he's parlaying it into something beyond what I believed would happen. He had already become a board member by the time he was Graham's current age and it's just not even close.

Anyway, back to Graham...he does hit guys and his form is pretty good for that. But I don't see any hook that makes him an NHLer. And he's already at pro age, still playing junior, and he's producing at a level that I would be concerned about if he was a d-man, much less a forward...

Chase Stillman (RW) - Basically just a Gruden replacement. All compete, nothing else of note. Might have the slowest wrist shot release in America. I don't need to spend a lot of time watching this guy...how the hell did he go in the 1st round?
 
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Michael Farkas said:
Not sure if you guys are interested or whatever...couple of notes on guys coming in...

Conor Timmins (RD) - This is a real fix'er up'er...

He looks like a player that has no confidence. You look at his rush absorption technique, and he's really caught in between. He tries to adjust with all of these backward crossovers that are really inefficient. So, he creates these deficits for himself and he doesn't have the explosiveness to get out of them. Heavy boots. No quick twitch muscle fiber in there that I can detect. Also, he's surprisingly poor in his box out technique for this size and experience level. I don't think he's a very good athlete in general. He can snap some pucks up the ice. I'm actually pleasantly surprised by his outlet passing. Loose gap player who will lose his leverage to block shots to try to cover for the looseness of his gaps and his lack of confidence about what will happen next. But he's a weird player. I had an image in my head that he's a defensive-minded player...but it's actually his indecision that makes him look like that. He's actually a player with no obvious role.
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Well he should fit right in since the Penguins don't seem to have any identity whatsoever. Not unless slow, small, soft and horrible defensively is considered an identity.

Thanks for the scouting reports.
 
eXile3 said:
So Marner refused to waive his NMC to the Canes according to reports. Dude has somewhere he wants to play and I doubt it’s Pittsburgh.
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He likes Sid but I have no idea why he would come here and sign a presumably 8 year contract and then spend the back half of that with Sid retired and a garbage team behind him.

And even as much as he likes Sid I'm sure he's smart enough to realize there's no future of contention here.

If Marner comes here it's because he likes Dubas/Sid and because Dubas gives him an absolutely absurd contract. And I doubt even that would be enough.
 
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Ulf5 said:
For Rantanen. I've read read Marner already has said earlier in the season that he wasn't waiving for anyone this year so I wouldn't put much stock in that.
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Yea but that seems pretty imprudent to ask in a year where you are trying to win the Cup. I dunno, maybe I'm reading too much into it but you want your stars being 100% all-in.
 
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