Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[La Cosa Nostra]

Anyone trying to argue against a Chychrun trade conveniently does not mention you can literally recoup what you paid for him at the 2025 deadline. But doing nothing at the deadline then in the off season is the process. Isak Rosen and the 2023 first will end the drought in the 2026-2027 season for us.

 

[zenthusiast]

It’s certainly very easy to highlight the Sabres’ roster composition issues after a game like this.

No “but,” it’s just very easy

 

[Ace]

Anyone trying to argue against a Chychrun trade conveniently does not mention you can literally recoup what you paid for him at the 2025 deadline. But doing nothing at the deadline then in the off season is the process. Isak Rosen and the 2023 first will end the drought in the 2026-2027 season for us.

Tbf there aren’t that many arguing against the trade…and no one doing it is doing so in good faith,

Hell even Duff was angry about it today and he’s on the payroll

 

[zenthusiast]

I wouldn’t be mad

 

[zenthusiast]

Tbf there aren’t that many arguing against the trade…and no one doing it is doing so in good faith,

Hell even Duff was angry about it today and he’s on the payroll

What did he say?

 

[jcbeze]

I wouldn’t be mad

if that's as Gudas he can do, i'm for it too

 

[Fezzy126]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

 

[zenthusiast]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

I’m sure he’s pleased but it’s not like he had a NTC

 

[Ace]

What did he say?

He was upset that for 18 months we heard 4 big pieces and said Ottawa got him for nothing. Marty came in with…well…maybe the ask was more from Buffalo. Dreger also said some GMs would rather just trade with a different GM Sometimes. Which will keep me up for another week.

 

[jcbeze]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

the tears he shed while in pain over his ankle/leg?

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

Hand up. I feel better now listening to this but still... Kevyn needs to do something

 

[Ace]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

Ok.

he had no trade protection.

there. What do I get?

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

Anyone trying to argue against a Chychrun trade conveniently does not mention you can literally recoup what you paid for him at the 2025 deadline. But doing nothing at the deadline then in the off season is the process. Isak Rosen and the 2023 first will end the drought in the 2026-2027 season for us.

The 2023 1st has the potential to be in the 8-15 range in a stacked draft. A 2025 1st would be a high pick from a contender in a worse draft. There's a big difference.

The last stacked draft had Mikko Rantanen, Timo Meier, Zach Werenski, Matthew Barzal, Kyle Connor, and Thomas Chabot all available in that range.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

I'll have to hunt around that old blog to see if I can find the writeups they did on it because I'm probably doing a disservice to what they had found via their data and pared it down to just "forwards have more shot suppressing impact than defensemen do".

I hope this doesn’t get lost in the loss. Interesting thing and I have no idea how or where I’d find that info.

 

[Ace]

If the point of the exercise is to somehow make people feel better that players now see a better opportunity in Ottawa than here…I don’t think it’s going to go the way you want it to.

Out povertying the poverty franchise

 

[Gabrielor]

The 2023 1st has the potential to be in the 8-15 range in a stacked draft. A 2025 1st would be a high pick from a contender in a worse draft. There's a big difference.

The last stacked draft had Mikko Rantanen, Timo Meier, Zach Werenski, Matthew Barzal, Kyle Connor, and Thomas Chabot all available in that range.

I disagree. After about 5-6, the magic is this draft tails off. I don’t even think the 7-20 range is as good as 2019, let alone 2015.

 

[Ace]

The 2023 1st has the potential to be in the 8-15 range in a stacked draft. A 2025 1st would be a high pick from a contender in a worse draft. There's a big difference.

The last stacked draft had Mikko Rantanen, Timo Meier, Zach Werenski, Matthew Barzal, Kyle Connor, and Thomas Chabot all available in that range.

this is not a stacked draft.

this is a high end top 4 elite draft. Then it is a very regular draft…with much worse D and more goalies.

people need to stop regurgitating this talking point because it isn’t true

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

Convince me that Chychrun didn't have a say in where he went

I'll believe a team held out for the best possible return for over a year and then at the last minute allowed the player to choose a team with a lower offer when someone from the team says it publicly. Until then, not buying it.

You can believe whatever you want.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

the tears he shed while in pain over his ankle/leg?

Or maybe that his life has been on hold for the last 18 months while Arizona figures out what to do with him and now he’s free from that hell.

 

[Fezzy126]

I'll believe a team held out for the best possible return for over a year and then at the last minute allowed the player to choose a team with a lower offer when someone from the team says it publicly. Until then, not buying it.

You can believe whatever you want.

It's already been reported that there were better deals by multiple outlets.

 

[zenthusiast]

It's already been reported that there were better deals by multiple outlets.

I don’t recall reading it that way

 

[SabreOil]

It's already been reported that there were better deals by multiple outlets.

I haven't read anything remotely like this. Only things I've seen are that Arizona absolutely refused to take a roster contract(cap dump) back in the trade and that they liked that Ottawa's 1st pick was only top 5 protected.

 

[OkimLom]

It's already been reported that there were better deals by multiple outlets.

Maybe value-wise of the assets involved, but there’s absolutely no proof that Chychrun was able to decide which offer HE wanted to go with.

The Ottawa deal might’ve been the best fit FOR Arizona’s management. At least that’s all we can come to a conclusion on based on the facts laid out and Arizona management having the authority to make the trade.

 

[PatLaFontaineASMR]

this is not a stacked draft.

this is a high end top 4 elite draft. Then it is a very regular draft…with much worse D and more goalies.

people need to stop regurgitating this talking point because it isn’t true

You're just wrong lol.

You have guys like Andrew Cristall, Zach Benson, Dalibor Dvorsky, Brayden Yager, David Reinbacher, Will Smith, Eduard Sale, and Colby Barlow available in that range.

All these guys would be potentially top 5 picks last year. More impressive than Cutter Gauthier, Marco Kasper, Savoie, Jiricek, and Korchinski.

 

[Beerz]

this is not a stacked draft.

this is a high end top 4 elite draft. Then it is a very regular draft…with much worse D and more goalies.

people need to stop regurgitating this talking point because it isn’t true

Remember when nobody was going to sell their 2023 1st round pick