Trade Deadline Thread (March 3)

[sabregoat]

This kinda reads to me as "please don't freak out if we don't make a move" lol

thats how i read it also but it came out the same time that a big offer by Buffalo was reportedly on the table.

 

[Djp]

I never said we should make panic moves to try to make the playoffs this year.

I'm just pointing out that in 3 years Adams has no history of adding significant players to the current roster via UFA or trade. (outside of Tuch who we also gave up Eichel to get)

I think it's a mistake in long term roster building that we didn't pick up anyone significant in 2021 or 2022 offseason via trade or UFA.

Look at NJ. They've been adding pieces for 2-3 years and now they're the 3rd best team in the league. They added good long term pieces before they were "ready". Because they knew those pieces they added would still be on the team once the prospects had matured.

Waiting until the team has matured to add anyone from outside could be too late.

Imagine if we had made even one good trade or signing in each of those off seasons instead of 0. Like imagine picking up a top 4 dman in 2021, and Husso this past year?

We'd be battling for 2nd-3rd in the Atlantic, not on the fringes of the WC.

i disagree

it was not a mistake to try and go out and get something ( and for what cost). The team just traded out 3 veteran players.

this past year you had 3 young players joining the team and needed t8me to grow.

Seams like a underwhelming return with the 50% retention through next year.

That Chicago GM is not great at getting value, less then expected for Debrincat and Dach, nothing for Toews probably not that much for Kane either. good. f*** them.

these are app,es and oranges…

for Dach irpt was a high first step 13th OS vs late 1st round pics. The differences are 2 late 1sts around 26-33 does not get you a pick around 12-14.

A first for McCabe at $2M with term left seems reasonable to me. Maybe a slight bit hefty......but McCabe @ 50% PLUS Lafferty for what basically amounts to a 1 and a 2 seems reasonable, if maybe a slight bit light.

removingnthr name of McCsbe from this……

getting a 3rd pairing vet Dman who can play mid pair if needed at a cap hit of $2M per for 3 full years is a very good deal

 

[MOGlLNY]

thats how i read it also but it came out the same time that a big offer by Buffalo was reportedly on the table.

We'll just have to see. I am all for staying the course, but standing pat and not giving these guys any help to try and sneak their way in is a bit unacceptable in my eyes. Doesn't have to be a big price paid, just something that shows you're willing to help out.

 

[Ace]

Can I have a follow up letter explaining how icing 6 NHL quality D and good goalies hurts the plan to develop the young players?

Been wondering that since the off-season of doing nothing

 

[Djp]

I respect it, I love the culture.

Just win, and everything will be as good as it can be.

“P.S. I’m sorry to inform you but I have to trade half my prospect pool to acquire a 2 yr rental player”

 

[old kummelweck]

This kinda reads to me as "please don't freak out if we don't make a move" lol

You don’t usually get a pre-apology letter…but its not like he doesn’t have the free time

thats how i read it also but it came out the same time that a big offer by Buffalo was reportedly on the table.

The Dahlin letter, the video of cozens thanking the fans, this letter, are all part of a marketing campaign.

 

[Zman5778]

We waived Houser? What now? UPL going back down??

 

[Dingo44]

Can I have a follow up letter explaining how icing 6 NHL quality D and good goalies hurts the plan to develop the young players?

Been wondering that since the off-season of doing nothing

 

[Gras]

Can I have a follow up letter explaining how icing 6 NHL quality D and good goalies hurts the plan to develop the young players?

Been wondering that since the off-season of doing nothing

How many NHL D have they been icing?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Chicago will trade Domi too I'd imagine. They have 6 1st and 6 2nds over the next 3 years. If someone tries interview for GM under the name Jim Curray I'd hang up the phone if I'm them.

 

[CaliSabresfan24]

We waived Houser? What now? UPL going back down??

Im confused..

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Can I have a follow up letter explaining how icing 6 NHL quality D and good goalies hurts the plan to develop the young players?

Been wondering that since the off-season of doing nothing

Weren't you leaving until KA made a move?

 

[Dingo44]

We waived Houser? What now? UPL going back down??

That's confusing. Why would we have to waive a player in the AHL - he has to pass through waivers to go to the ECHL?

OK - if he was on an AHL deal, and we want him on an NHL deal before the deadline, we have to sign him to the NHL deal, then waive him back to the AHL? Is that it?

 

[MOGlLNY]

The Dahlin letter, the video of cozens thanking the fans, this letter, are all part of a marketing campaign.

They hired a new PR company at the start of last season, we know.

 

[Djp]

That's confusing. Why would we have to waive a player in the AHL - he has to pass through waivers to go to the ECHL?

OK - if he was on an AHL deal, and we want him on an NHL deal before the deadline, we have to sign him to the NHL deal, then waive him back to the AHL? Is that it?

When you transfer a player from AHL only to Sabres roster they must clear waivers.

 

[Cirris]

“P.S. I’m sorry to inform you but I have to trade half my prospect pool to acquire a 2 yr rental player”

That was Ted Murray in a nutshell. He wasn't afraid of overpaying and getting players he targeted. Unfortunately he might have been a decent scout at one time. almost every move he made turned out to be a detriment. Cause he didn't acquire players. He acquired parts that didn't fit or pan out.

 

[Daz28]

I wonder at Schmaltz too. 27, reasonable deal, good quicks, has some ties to the NTDP for a moment as well as a U20 team that Don was assistant coach on. Just wondering.

Mitts replacement? Never played 82 games, though.

 

[old kummelweck]

I almost dusted off this emoji this morning.

 

[Zach716]

I do enjoy the East spending valuable draft capital now I will say. The East may be stacked but in a few years it’ll be our time to shine with some of these other top teams aging, running into cap issues, and having less high draft picks to rectify. It’ll be something that gives us an advantage in the 4-8 years time frame.

 

[Daz28]

Listen I hate the leafs, it's in my blood.


I'm proud of them. Your team isn't stacked forever. Go try and win.

The problem is they're throwing all their chips in, yet haven't had a good hand yet(playoff success).

 

[Zach716]

The problem is they're throwing all their chips in, yet haven't had a good hand yet(playoff success).

For Dubas it makes sense because he’s fighting for his job security, Tavares isn’t getting any younger, and Matthews next contact if he decides to re-up is gonna be debilitating.

 

[Gabrielor]

The problem is they're throwing all their chips in, yet haven't had a good hand yet(playoff success).

And the games nearly up on the big 4.

 

[old kummelweck]

I do enjoy the East spending valuable draft capital now I will say. The East may be stacked but in a few years it’ll be our time to shine with some of these other top teams aging, running into cap issues, and having less high draft picks to rectify. It’ll be something that gives us an advantage in the 4-8 years time frame.

Assets are assets. Picks, prospects, contracted players: all just a form of capital. They can be exchanged for the other forms when needed.

 

[Jim Bob]

Less satisfactory, but I don't believe his injuries have ever been related to one another?

It's hard to tell with UBI/LBI designations.

 

[Gabrielor]

“P.S. I’m sorry to inform you but I have to trade half my prospect pool to acquire a 2 yr rental player”

If anything, the opposite.

"P.S. we need more 2nd round picks"