GDT: Trade Deadline Day

[Hotpot]

There's goes my Knies for Byram and Cozens idea.....

Still hoping we get Byram somehow

 

[LeafsFan89]

Lol @tsn. You take Rantanen every day over the week over Marner.

 

[weems]

Listen I love Knies, but he has become overrated among our fanbase (understandably so)

He's pacing for ~60 points and 30 goals while shooting an unsustainable shooting % playing beside 2 of the most elite players in hockey. If he's the piece that can get you a 50 point, 100 point player who produces in the playoffs you need to do that

Knies right now is fantastic value, we'll see how people feel about him making 7.5-8 million in a couple years

I really like Knies as a player but I had no idea his shooting % was so high.

 

[leafsfan5]

In a vaccuum sure, but it’s not that simple.

Knies bridged at something like 5M is much better for us than Rantanen at 13-14M

Why would Knies take a bridge? It's more risk for him and he's already proven he's a powerforward who will score beside your best players

 

[HolyCrap]

Same thing happened the last 3 years. They refuse to stay up with the times and tech.

And get upset when most refuse to pay for the upgrade here.

 

[horner]

Beauvillie got a 2nd wow

 

[Ports]

If they flame out again in the first round Marner will walk and they’ll try to replace Tavares who has no leverage if he wants to remain a Leaf or re-sign him on the cheap.

They get another chance this year to show they can play and if they get pushed out again, fans and media will be talking about the need for massive changes, and management will likely extend Marner and Tavares with an overpay and they’ll all get another chance next spring.

 

[The Shadow]

You don’t build a team at the trade deadline. You add pieces to an already great team to take a run

The leafs have far too many issues to successfully add here without destroying their draft/prospect pool.

They need a big summer of key additions and subtractions and reset it like Florida did a few years back.

Out:
Reilly
Domi
Reaves
Dewar
One of Marner or Tavares
Jarnkrok

That’s over $40 million in cap space freed up!!!!

In:
- a solid 3-4 defenseman or two
- 2-3 big forwards with scoring ability - Bennet as an example
- a solid 3rd line Center (if you keep Tavares)

Bonus:

- don’t spend to the cap and limit yourself. Keep some space to acquire assets when teams need to move pieces at a bargain. Give yourself $5 million as a buffer.

 

[Ports]

Or

Or Willie. He's won exactly nothing.

Or Rielly. That’s 61% of their cap space who are proven losers.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Cowan, Minten, Danford a 2nd and 3rd this year a 1st and 3rd next year.

The team has assets to make a deal if it wants to

Everything doesn't exist in a vacuum though. If Treliving proposes a 1st & Minten, etc. it also comes with cost of retention.

We'll see in a few hours how good Toronto's assets are, but my guess is that GMs are not buying what Tre is selling.

 

[Commander Clueless]

I really like Knies as a player but I had no idea his shooting % was so high.

Helps when most of your shots are point blank range.

 

[notbias]

Yea, but having said that they have to take care of their own business. 5 wins is the most they ever got in one playoff season. Just get it done. There is not a lot of faith in them, investing more assets into this core. Look at how many assets were already spent and they did not do shit.

Treliving should have traded them if he has no faith... wasting seasons seems like the worst possible thing you can do.

 

[BertCorbeau]

At these prices sell Jarnkrok

 

[tuckerintensity]

Listen I love Knies, but he has become overrated among our fanbase (understandably so)

He's pacing for ~60 points and 30 goals while shooting an unsustainable shooting % playing beside 2 of the most elite players in hockey. If he's the piece that can get you a 50 goal, 100 point player who produces in the playoffs you need to do that

Knies right now is fantastic value, we'll see how people feel about him making 7.5-8 million in a couple years

If we are getting Rantanen (and we're not), we're making the decision to move on from Marner, not Knies or JT.

 

[pspot]

totally agree and with the prices get futures for marginal pieces you can easily fill with guys from the marlies which will only help long term as well ...team will probably lose in the 2nd round this year either way

You don’t build a team at the trade deadline. You add pieces to an already great team to take a run

The leafs have far too many issues to successfully add here without destroying their draft/prospect pool.

They need a big summer of key additions and subtractions and reset it like Florida did a few years back.

Out:
Reilly
Domi
Reaves
Dewar
One of Marner or Tavares
Jarnkrok

That’s over $40 million in cap space freed up!!!!

In:
- a solid 3-4 defenseman or two
- 2-3 big forwards with scoring ability - Bennet as an example
- a solid 3rd line Center (if you keep Tavares)

Bonus:

- don’t spend to the cap and limit yourself. Keep some space to acquire assets when teams need to move pieces at a bargain. Give yourself $5 million as a buffer.

 

[All Mod Cons]

I feel like that BurntheBoats guy is Nigel Farage.

Comes in here, out of the blue, just before TDL. Posts loads of unrealistic trades proposals for a week to rile up the crowd, and then just slips out the backdoor while the chaos ensues.

 

[BlueForever75]

Brazzeau from Boston to Minny

 

[Buds17]

The panic here is nuts... You have to see it from Brad's side. Still lots of attractive pieces available on the board(Murphy, Ferraro, Laughton,Rackall, Donato) and other teams are overpaying for depth players(Novak, Beauvillier, Walman)

Eventually prices have to drop as Buyers blow their wad on cheaper pieces.

Agreed. Some short-term excitement likely won't end up being worth having any long-term regret.

 

[Amadeus]

I disagree! Marner is a far superior two way player than Rantanen. I’d take Marner over Rantanen as a one on one comparison.

I’d love to have both though!

Lol @tsn. You take Rantanen every day over the week over Marner.

 

[SprDaVE]

Treliving might look at this group and decide the sunk cost might not be worth it. He’s in Year 2 of his era, not the fin de siècle of the Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Nylander era. I don’t necessarily think that’s a loser mentality. Maybe he looks at this group and doesn’t like what he sees?

It's 100% loser mentality. He chose this path and the team is in the mix for first in the Atlantic. What a terrible GM if that's his conclusion. This is a fast paced situation. Year 2 means you know what your team is. He shouldn't have bet on them in the off-season if he wasn't ready to chase a cup with them/

If he doesn't like what he see's, that's on him. And if that's his conclusion, he should blow it up, right? Right.

 

[dubplatepressure]

There's goes my Knies for Byram and Cozens idea.....

Still hoping we get Byram somehow

Byram or Clarke 100%

 

[uncleben]

Bob McKenzie on TSN: Rantanen favourable to Toronto and Florida as possibilities in free agency

 

[Divine]

Bob McKenzie just said Rantanen would be interested in Toronto/Florida in FA if he gets there. Also said Marner likely wants to go to UFA

 

[Gabriel426]

Have Jets made any trades?

 

[Tony Romo]