Trade Deadline 2015 Part II

[YearlyLottery]

I wouldnt break the bank for anyone id just take care of the needs. Back up goalie and defense. I actually like our offense, everyone hustles and as much as I would love Kessel I wouldnt trade everyone for him.


Reimer for Donovan or Chad Johnson straight up.

Michaelek - Id offer Pelech/Ness type combo and a 3rd

We have a ton of players.. we dont need to offer the 2016 #1 pick

Who the hell would take Ness?

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Whoa.... I don't know how that happened, but that second quote wasn't from me.

Oops. Sorry. Corrected that.

 

[Dutch Frost]

Who the hell would take Ness?

lol i just threw him in there since he has had a decent year. Realistically if they wanted Mayfield id offer him up. I feel Leafs want to dump salary, so Donovan straight up would work.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Rangers aren't the Yankees, they're subject to a cap like everyone else. One that at times sees them get outbid for players like Anton Stralman, etc.

And every few years they sign a seasonS-destructive contract, like Gomez, Redden, etc. Their track record says this will never change with Sather at the helm, so I don't really worry about them. Their ability to find some moron to take those evil contracts off their hands at times has been impressive, but eventually that kind of fiscal stupidity in a cap world catches up with you.

I do not give a ****, a ****, or a rat's left hairy what the Rags do. I care what this club does, and this club is still a few pieces away from making a meaningful run at the cup, some of those pieces likely being MDC, GR, and RP.

How about we make it to round #2 before we even begin worrying about adding UFA tweeners for the rest of our farm? Is that really too much to ask?

 

[19NYSports91]

You know why I'm not as worried about the special teams and CJ as many of you? Because it isn't about how those things are working in October, December and January when their numbers are compiling. It's about how well they're doing in the playoffs. Does anyone here honestly think this team doesn't have the players to be top 10 or better in both PK and PP? And who gives a **** about CJ in the playoffs? Let me tell you something.... if Halak isn't starting in the PO's we're in trouble no mater who it is backing him up outside getting another legit starter.

Their personnel is very good for both PP and PK, the problem is the coaching...

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Their personnel is very good for both PP and PK, the problem is the coaching...

Yes! Yes! Yes!

 

[islesfan3913]

I wouldnt break the bank for anyone id just take care of the needs. Back up goalie and defense. I actually like our offense, everyone hustles and as much as I would love Kessel I wouldnt trade everyone for him.


Reimer for Donovan or Chad Johnson straight up.

Michaelek - Id offer Pelech/Ness type combo and a 3rd

We have a ton of players.. we dont need to offer the 2016 #1 pick

Fair enough. I agree with the back situation and, to a certain extent, the defensive situation. I don't think defense is a huge need but I wouldn't be against bringing in someone like Michaelek, although it's going to take more than Ness and a 3rd.

 

[Islesfan22]

Their personnel is very good for both PP and PK, the problem is the coaching...

Exactly!

 

[YearlyLottery]

lol i just threw him in there since he has had a decent year. Realistically if they wanted Mayfield id offer him up. I feel Leafs want to dump salary, so Donovan straight up would work.

Ok fair enough

 

[Jester9881]

Their personnel is very good for both PP and PK, the problem is the coaching...

Exactly!

Absolutely.... but they've gone long stretches where the PK and PP were at least good enough to be 10th. All they need is to get their **** together once the PO's start. It's not like we're asking Schremp to play solid defense.... we're asking Bailey and Grabner and Frans.... regardless of system

 

[CupHolders]

I wouldnt break the bank for anyone id just take care of the needs. Back up goalie and defense. I actually like our offense, everyone hustles and as much as I would love Kessel I wouldnt trade everyone for him.


Reimer for Donovan or Chad Johnson straight up.

Michaelek - Id offer Pelech/Ness type combo and a 3rd

We have a ton of players.. we dont need to offer the 2016 #1 pick

These seem like underpayments as of tonight. The only way these kind of deals happen is tomorrow... once sellers have run out of options and are looking to just dump off UFAs for anything cheaper. Which is what the Isles are probably aiming to do... spare parts and minor prospects for moderate depth upgrades.

 

[boredmale]

The only think the Islanders should do is offer Donovan around the league to teams selling and wait till 2:59 and see if anybody bites. Chances are some team is going to want to unload a player and say Donovan is better then whatever else was offered

 

[Islesfan22]

Absolutely.... but they've gone long stretches where the PK and PP were at least good enough to be 10th. All they need is to get their **** together once the PO's start. It's not like we're asking Schremp to play solid defense.... we're asking Bailey and Grabner and Frans.... regardless of system

Pp has been up and down and it could get hot at any time. Pk is way to passive and I don't see that changing any time soon. Personal is ok it's the strategy Cronin uses. After this season I would say goodbye to the pp specialist weight and the pk specialist Cronin but I doubt that is going to happen

 

[danteipp]

lol i just threw him in there since he has had a decent year. Realistically if they wanted Mayfield id offer him up. I feel Leafs want to dump salary, so Donovan straight up would work.

If the Leafs simply want to dump salary, I would rather just take back Reimer for Donovan and/or a mid to late-round pick and then dump CJ in the AHL. Assuming they have no interest in CJ, nor should they if they are smart, just let him go down to the AHL and back up Poulin, since Leggio is terrible.

I would NOT use Mayfield as a throw-in. I have watched him a lot and, IMHO, he has the potential to be a solid, cheap and physical third-pairing defender at a minimum. No reason to just toss him into a deal for a backup goalie when the going rate is usually a middling draft pick.

Let Mayfield develop in the AHL and next year he can help the Isles either by providing quality depth or be used for a material upgrade via trade as part of a larger package if he continues to progress.

 

[stranger34]

so the rangers went the shiny new toy route... SHOCKER!!

I for one don't want to do that and never did... however that stupid vanek trade does haunt us because I'd like to deploy some assets on depth... The idiot GM is tempting fate that Okie and Grabo can be healthy and effective... and he's allowing no margin for error on Visnovsky and Halak's health.

I didn't want Yandle... but I would like some prudence/insurance. It's common sense but I should have learned not to ask that from this doofus GM years ago.

 

[The Underboss]

Tradecenter TSN--- "Rangers now have best D in he NHL, 1-6"
"rangers and Sather have set the bar"

I seriously feel sick right now.....

Don't feel sick, as the Rangers are still beatable. They've emptied the cupboard for the forseeable future.

1) Nobody will outbid the Rangers. 2) Every player wants to play for the Rangers.

There is a salary cap. Only leverage Rangers have is the extra year they can offer. They already have a lot of money tied uP.

 

[GTislanders]

Who cares what the rags did. Futureless bums. They arent good enough to beat the isles in a 7 game series anyways. Does yandle make any of the first 3 games closer vs them? Please, hes a toy, thats it.

Get healthy and thats it. Isles arent doing anything tomorrow, nor should they. The rangers have totally gone all in and in grand fashion, as they always do.

 

[dlawong]

I do not really want to do this but I am thinking about maybe Isles should go for Phaneuf as there is no guarantee that they can sign Boychuk and they DO need a big physical D man who is mean and can play on PP too. I think they can try to get him, Bozak and Reimer in exchange for Reinhart, Nelson and Chad Johnson. Toronto would likely like this deal because they need a top line centre badly and Nelson can develop into one down the road but he will not likely do that with the Isles. This will help Toronto to tank more and Isles would not need to give away a 2016 1st rounder. I hate trading Nelson but this will help Isles solve the back up problem and getting a D man who can put some fear into the opposing team. Bozak is good on the face-off and is very good in the shootout. I love Nelson but you need to give something up front to get something big back on the blue line. Reimer would probably stay as a back up because I do not see him being ready for being a true no. 1 guy yet but he is a lot safer than Chad Johnson and can step in if Halak gets hurt.

The only thing I do not know too much is the contract status of Bozak and if he is a rental. If he is, then I prefer Kadri back instead.

 

[PromNite]

On which planet do the Rangers have trouble resigning Yandle? Certainly not this one.

And even if they can't, they trade him next year for a 1st rounder+

 

[RWWallpaper]

They should call AZ and see if they'd like to part with Moore...He'd be perfect here on the bottom pairing and it would save them some money by not having to fly him out West...lol

 

[boredmale]

I do not really want to do this but I am thinking about maybe Isles should go for Phaneuf as there is no guarantee that they can sign Boychuk and they DO need a big physical D man who is mean and can play on PP too. I think they can try to get him, Bozak and Reimer in exchange for Reinhart, Nelson and Chad Johnson. Toronto would likely like this deal because they need a top line centre badly and Nelson can develop into one down the road but he will not likely do that with the Isles. This will help Toronto to tank more and Isles would not need to give away a 2016 1st rounder. I hate trading Nelson but this will help Isles solve the back up problem and getting a D man who can put some fear into the opposing team. Bozak is good on the face-off and is very good in the shootout. I love Nelson but you need to give something up front to get something big back on the blue line. Reimer would probably stay as a back up because I do not see him being ready for being a true no. 1 guy yet but he is a lot safer than Chad Johnson and can step in if Halak gets hurt.

The only thing I do not know too much is the contract status of Bozak and if he is a rental. If he is, then I prefer Kadri back instead.

There is no reason to trade for Bozak. His faceoff numbers are good(51%) but they not amazing. With Strome and Grabovski playing wings we could always Trade Nelson(not saying we should trade him) and not need a center back

 

[GTislanders]

I do not really want to do this but I am thinking about maybe Isles should go for Phaneuf as there is no guarantee that they can sign Boychuk and they DO need a big physical D man who is mean and can play on PP too. I think they can try to get him, Bozak and Reimer in exchange for Reinhart, Nelson and Chad Johnson. Toronto would likely like this deal because they need a top line centre badly and Nelson can develop into one down the road but he will not likely do that with the Isles. This will help Toronto to tank more and Isles would not need to give away a 2016 1st rounder. I hate trading Nelson but this will help Isles solve the back up problem and getting a D man who can put some fear into the opposing team. Bozak is good on the face-off and is very good in the shootout. I love Nelson but you need to give something up front to get something big back on the blue line. Reimer would probably stay as a back up because I do not see him being ready for being a true no. 1 guy yet but he is a lot safer than Chad Johnson and can step in if Halak gets hurt.

The only thing I do not know too much is the contract status of Bozak and if he is a rental. If he is, then I prefer Kadri back instead.

Phaneuf is an offseason move. Right now we have johnny and hes ours until hes no. Diana has 1/10th of the integrity johnny has. Would i be open to it? Maybe, but theres lots of questions and wed need answers. Plus okposo probably remembers that cowardly hit a few years ago.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

They arent good enough to beat the isles in a 7 game series anyways.

Yeah they are. Get real.

There is a salary cap. Only leverage Rangers have is the extra year they can offer. They already have a lot of money tied uP.

I understand there's a salary cap. The Rangers can figure out ways to fly under it. They always have. If they want to keep Yandle, they can easily find a way to do it.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

I think they can try to get him, Bozak and Reimer in exchange for Reinhart, Nelson and Chad Johnson. Toronto would likely like this deal because they need a top line centre badly and Nelson can develop into one down the road but he will not likely do that with the Isles.

I love Nelson but you need to give something up front to get something big back on the blue line. Reimer would probably stay as a back up because I do not see him being ready for being a true no. 1 guy yet but he is a lot safer than Chad Johnson and can step in if Halak gets hurt.

Nelson? Easy Does It!

What were getting back on the blue line is certainly big, a big disgusting contract that eats up our salary space. I've been on the Fence about Phaneuf and my conclusion is NO. Reinhart and Nelson are cost controlled. No interest in Bozak either. Johnson and 4th should get us Reimer, he ain't that special.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

so the rangers went the shiny new toy route... SHOCKER!!

I for one don't want to do that and never did... however that stupid vanek trade does haunt us because I'd like to deploy some assets on depth... The idiot GM is tempting fate that Okie and Grabo can be healthy and effective... and he's allowing no margin for error on Visnovsky and Halak's health.

I didn't want Yandle... but I would like some prudence/insurance. It's common sense but I should have learned not to ask that from this doofus GM years ago.

Idiot GM looks pretty good now, Coburn for a 1st, 3rd and Gudas.

Boychuk for two seconds. Oh and the Bruins traded two seconds for Brett Connolly.

Glad he did his shopping then and not now.

Adding Michalek I am still for. Also, Trevor Daley from the Stars.