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I just googled if Ferraro’s analytics are good and apparently they are not at all, could this be because San Jose has been a dumpster fire up until this past season?

At a quick glance of that, doesn’t seem like he’d be a Chayka signing.
 

Kailer Yamamoto

Height is a huge barrier for a lot of traditional types. I get it. But in a year where Zach Benson and Logan Stankoven have proved their mettle in a playoff setting, one year after Brad Marchand put up another dominant playoff run, it might be time to give more spark plugs a chance. Yamamoto fits that bill.

The diminutive winger had a fantastic season in Utah’s bottom six. He scored 2.09 points per 60 at five-on-five, and he was absolutely dominant at driving play with a 54 percent xG and 58 percent of actual goals. His tracked data is pretty sparkling too, where he’s great at transitioning the puck up ice and forechecking in-zone.

Yamamoto should come cheap because of his frame (5-foot-9, 178 pounds) and production, but he offers a lot of efficiency beyond the box score. It may come as some surprise that a smaller forward grades out so well defensively, but Yamamoto is a tenacious player with one of his top comps being Paul Byron. He’s a bargain under $2 million.

Pavol Regenda

It’s never easy betting on a player without much of a sample size. It’s hard to discern what’s real and what’s fake; an undrafted 26-year-old scoring nine goals in 24 games generally screams fake.

But Regenda seems to have the underlying profile in that small sample to suggest there might be some juice here. At five-on-five, he scored 1.1 goals per 60, but also generated 0.92 xG per 60 — both numbers right in line with Macklin Celebrini’s output. That’s obviously not apples-to-apples; it’s just to show how efficient Regenda was when he did play. His on-ice numbers were just as great with a 52.4 percent expected goals rate, second to only Igor Chernyshov among forwards.

It feels like there’s something here, and at a likely low cost, it’s worth the risk to find out.
 
Please give prime examples of how he's going downhill fast.....

Ranked #1 for defenseman in blocks.
Ranked in the top-40 for defense in hits.
McCabe was still a +3 on one of the worst teams lastyear, while playing hard minutes + PK.
Jake is +46 the last three years.
He had his highest TOI average last season. Yeah lets just trade away our #2 & #3 defense if that's the case we should be striping down the whole core for a proper rebuild.

A lot of trolls on this forum or people just lack knowledge and dont care too do some research before posting.
I said "could go down hill fast" as in, projecting next season and beyond.

The point being, I think there's a reasonable chance that his play and/or availability decline to the point you will be just as well off with signing UFA Mario Ferraro (or similar) as you are with Jake McCabe.

Clearly thats speculation on my part, but I think its fair to say a decline is coming, its just a matter of exactly when it arrives.
 
I just googled if Ferraro’s analytics are good and apparently they are not at all, could this be because San Jose has been a dumpster fire up until this past season?

At a quick glance of that, doesn’t seem like he’d be a Chayka signing.
Theyre fine. He gets some extremely hard minutes on a team that gets caved in and he still manages to hold his head above water.
 
You might as well trade Tanev and OEL while you're at it.

No player should be off limits for talks. Whether it happens or not is a whole other story. If a team wants to pay, you'd be crazy not to explore it.
Sure, but the difference is the return. In McCabe's case he's a player top teams want. You're trying to time the decline and get a big return before his value (potentially) drys up.

For Tanev that time has come and gone, he's a cap dump. OEL is interesting after the year he had but the time to trade him was the deadline, I doubt he'd get much back now (maybe a 2nd rounder).
 
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I just googled if Ferraro’s analytics are good and apparently they are not at all, could this be because San Jose has been a dumpster fire up until this past season?

At a quick glance of that, doesn’t seem like he’d be a Chayka signing.

Dom of the Athletic said his closest comparable is Matt Hunwick. I've stopped thinking of him since.
 
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I said "could go down hill fast" as in, projecting next season and beyond.

The point being, I think there's a reasonable chance that his play and/or availability decline to the point you will be just as well off with signing UFA Mario Ferraro (or similar) as you are with Jake McCabe.

Clearly thats speculation on my part, but I think its fair to say a decline is coming, its just a matter of exactly when it arrives.
Tanev is much older and when he's healthy still ranks in the top-15 for both hits and blocks.....I dont see much of a decline for McCabe as its one of his strong points since he's been in the NHL.

Unless he gets some crazy injurie that effects his ability to block shots and hit then sure.

Jake's signed until he's 35-36 btw so he should be fine, as I mentioned in my post he hasn't shown any signs of declining in fact he's shown improvements.

Defenseman usually hit there prime later then offensive players and thats around 30-36 of age....with exceptions for elite players.

We should not be looking at moving any Defenseman besids Carlo if he's not willing to resign.....our defense has ranked in the top-3 for most hits/blocked shots the past few years, we just need a #1 offensive guy so Morgan doesnt have to do everything & can play less minutes so he's not exhausted every night....its been our issue on defense for the last 10years...Morgan is a solid #2 on any team, but has been forced to be a #1.

Most of the effective teams that have went to the finals run:

#1-#3 or #4
#2-#3 or #4
#5-#6

And most of the time the third paring has a young prospect who has the potential to be in the top-4.

We would have one of the best defensive cores if we could add a legit #1 & #3 while keeping everyone minus Carlo.

#1-McCabe or #3
Rielly-McCabe or #3
Ekmam-Larsson-Tanev
Andrae-Villeneuve or Danford

We could achieve this by moving Knies:

Knies

For

1st round pick(top 10)#1 Defenseman
Knies replacement
Top 6-player(prospect)

Acquiring our #3 through FA.
If that's not possible we run Carlo under and new coach and hope he can be the #3 that he was in Boston.

Also if we cant find a trade right now for Knies, our best option for a legitimate #1 Defenseman is Carlson.

McCabe-Carlson
Rielly-Carlo
Ekmam-Larsson-Tanev
Andrea-Villeneuve or Danford
 
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I just googled if Ferraro’s analytics are good and apparently they are not at all, could this be because San Jose has been a dumpster fire up until this past season?

At a quick glance of that, doesn’t seem like he’d be a Chayka signing.
Surface level metrics not amazing.
When you apply a further level and deeper dive - there is value there. Just my opinion.
Played tough minutes. Great shot. Good on PK. Blocks a shit ton of shots.
 
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Surface level metrics not amazing.
When you apply a further level and deeper dive - there is value there. Just my opinion.
Played tough minutes. Great shot. Good on PK. Blocks a shit ton of shots.
Apparently he's absolutely shit on PK according to JFresh cards
 
The guy that blew out Matthews' knee is gonna be signed by the Leafs. Uh huh. Great agent you got there.
Chayka and Mats negotiate with Gudas on July 1st.

Mats: "What would you have done if you were Matthews teammate and Radko Gudas injured him with a cheap shot"

Gudas: "I would've beat the #*@& out of myself".

Chayka: "Good news, #7 is available on our roster."
 
Surface level metrics not amazing.
When you apply a further level and deeper dive - there is value there. Just my opinion.
Played tough minutes. Great shot. Good on PK. Blocks a shit ton of shots.

I know it's still tough to separate the team from player sometimes when it comes to analytics. Can you tell me what you were looking at? I've been completely off on Ferraro for some time.
 
Chayka and Mats negotiate with Gudas on July 1st.

Mats: "What would you have done if you were Matthews teammate and Radko Gudas injured him with a cheap shot"

Gudas: "I would've beat the #*@& out of myself".

Chayka: "Good news, #7 is available on our roster."

This fanfic does't fully work. Gudas isn't a fighter. He is a dirty pest.
 
I don't hate the idea of Gudas, but he's also 36 and doesn't help with the puck movement side of things. Not sure if there a fit.

He also turned down the Leafs in the past during free agency (or so I recall). This smells of the player's agent throwing out the Leafs name alongside their client to the media to try and help drive bidding from other teams too
 
The way we have been drafting the last few years the more picks we have the better even if a retool let our scouts do the work
 

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