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Clark4Ever said:
If we can sign Werenski to a retirement type contract extension a year from now, then that changes the equation entirely.

The problem is there's no guarantees. If he leaves and we end up recouping lesser assets in return, it would be a massive loss for the franchise.
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I think if Werenski is willing to waive to us, he's open and willing to sign an extension, unless things really go south. But, then we have a lot of problems. But, sometimes you have to take a risk like that. My guess is with us being close to family and Matthews being here are the primary selling points, on top of we are a franchise that will spend. Especially if he's turning down Dallas.

The Raps moving for Kawhi in 2018, or the Jays moving Fred McGriff and Tony Fernandez for Joe Carter and Roberto Alomar. While, the risk scares me, sometimes fortune favors the bold. Losing Knies would hurt, but this isn't some futures based package like the deal that idiot Treliving had set up and to a division rival no less. We are getting a guy coming off a Norris season, who is probably a top 3 defender in the league. It could blow up in our faces where we are trading both Matthews, Werenski, and hell maybe even Nylander waives to get out at that point in 12 months, but sometimes you just have to go all-in. The real gamble at this point is what player is Auston Matthews currently, and how quickly can McKenna be good.
 
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IF Knies were to be traded in the deal, they' have to get A LOT done up front in free agency

McKenna-Matthews-Nylander
Marchment / Ardvisson-Tavares-Cowan
Marchment / Ardvisson-Hayton / Krebs-Tolvanen / Bjorkstrand
Lorentz-Quillan-Joshua

Werenski / Raddysh
McCabe / OEL
Andrae / Tanev
 
GQS said:
Werenski isn't prime Bobby Orr or something. Yeah he's really good, but on a team like the Leafs as it is right now? He'll make the team better without making it a top contender. Werenski is the kind of move you make when you have a team like Colorado or Dallas or even the Sharks who have a good young team that's lacking a top Dman.

Chayka needs to put the brakes on thinking this team is a contender and do at least a significant retool so that we have long term success rather than short term mediocrity.
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Werenski immediately makes the leafs the favourite in the Atlantic.
 
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GQS said:
Werenski isn't prime Bobby Orr or something. Yeah he's really good, but on a team like the Leafs as it is right now? He'll make the team better without making it a top contender. Werenski is the kind of move you make when you have a team like Colorado or Dallas or even the Sharks who have a good young team that's lacking a top Dman.

Chayka needs to put the brakes on thinking this team is a contender and do at least a significant retool so that we have long term success rather than short term mediocrity.
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Brother that ship has sailed, even though I agree. But if it doesn't workout in 2-3 years then you can move off of everybody and start the rebuild. It's clear by keeping Matthews / Nylander / Tavares we are trying to win now.
 
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Gabriel426 said:
Or Leafs was never in it, just the normal agents and teams using Leafs to drive up the price.

Insiders using Leafs to get clicks and Leafs fans will buy into anything that help the narrative of getting someone great, like a No1 Dman.
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Could always be wrong but that makes no sense to me for the following reasons.

Matthews is pretty close with his agent and we all know that his own future in Toronto has been cast in doubt. He expects to see big things in Leafs Land as proof of concept to stay. So why would the same agent be leveraging Matthews' team to make a division rival stronger, just so his situation in Toronto is destabilized? You'd be hurting a higher profile client for the benefit of another.

If Werenski truly wants Tampa, it would be easier to just say Tampa is one team and another non client affiliated throwaway team is another. The smoke screen could be anybody else, and somebody with more assets than Tampa or Toronto. All things being equal, Dallas is probably a stronger pre-made destination than the Lightning, they could have run the Dallas angle to the end.

I think this one comes down to personal relationships and it's bizarrely Toronto's trade to make.
 
Buckley said:
Werenski immediately makes the leafs the favourite in the Atlantic.
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A lot to get done in free agency before I'd say that. Knies would be going to other way so they'd need 2LW, 3LW OR 2 RW, 3C, 3RW at the very least

McKenna-Matthews-Nylander
FA OR Cowan-Tavares- FA OR Cowan
FA-TRADE / FA-FA

That's a lot to fill out in the top 9.
 
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The Iceman said:
Kawai Tuesday
Werenski Wednesday

What will Thursday bring??
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Throwback Thursday
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Could you imagine if Tampa Bay pulled some magic out of their ass and got somebody in their core to wave their no movement clause to get this done?... I doubt it, but what a twist that would be.
 
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