Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2022 - Off-season

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We have to get another goalie that can give us .900+ save%. Murray and his health is way to sxary to give the reigns to Kallgren and Woll for 60 games.

They definitely will. I don't think it has to be Samsonov either but they definitely need to hit a homerun on whoever they get however they get him.

It will be Murray, XYZ, Kallgren and Woll as the goaltending depth, with the rest falling behind.
 
I don’t get Leaf fans. We have had Campbell in net the past two seasons and it got us where exactly? Let me remind you, first round exits both times. You need a goalie in the playoffs to steal you a game in a 7 game series. Campbell didn’t. Price and Vaseleyski did against us. That’s why we lost. But yet Campbell wants 5 million plus per season. And you are all crying that he should get it instead of Murray under 5 million.

He’s 28 years old, a proven winner in the playoffs with 2 Stanley Cups. And because he’s been awful with an awful team in Ottawa and been injured to boot. He is an awful goaltender.

I promise you all that every single one of you will be saying how great of a trade this was that Dubas made.

Murray will turn it around on a winner and playing at home.
Winnipeg is more "home" for Murray , than Toronto.
 
They definitely will. I don't think it has to be Samsonov either but they definitely need to hit a homerun on whoever they get however they get him.

It will be Murray, XYZ, Kallgren and Woll as the goaltending depth, with the rest falling behind.

I'm hoping they try and target someone younger for the second goalie. Not sure who that would be at this point though.
 
The only players who were bought out or not qualified that intrigue me are Samsonov and Lemieux. The Leafs obviously need another goaltender and Samsonov jumps to the front of the pack behind Campbell and Kuemper, who are out of Toronto's price range with the addition of Murray.

Lemieux would be an upgrade on Simmonds. There has been talk of Deslauriers. Lemieux would be just as good of an idea.

I didn't immediately see roles for the other players.
 
Comrie or Samsonov the only UFA options I like. Although im really not sure what their AAVs would come in at. Im thinking they would both be 2 mil ish maybe even more for Samsonov. San Jose has 3 goalies right now I would not mind making a cheap trade for Adin Hill.
 
I'm honestly thinking they will stay, and Dubas will just be bargain binning this off-season which is a consummate failure of a plan.

Feels like next year will be a waste.
Just need to get to the playoffs :crossfing
If we can get even average-at-best goaltending, we should be in.

From there... well... I just gotta hope the hockey gods will give us flippin break for once, I guess. Idk.
 
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Shocker! Honestly a disgusting trade.
Value wise it sucks

But it's a deal that let's us basically have a starting caliber goalie for the next 2 years of the AM34 era

Murray when healthy and playing for a solid d-core isn't a bad goalie. I think he can provide us with .915 goal tending.

We need a solid #2 who gets 30ish starts and can realistically take over in case Murray is out in the playoffs or is stinking

I don't see this as a deal we made to win a trade.

Dubas obviously thinks Murray is different than Jack, and Fred were.

Murray was awesome from 2016 to 2019. Sucked after that.

This deal isn't a long-term commitment so if we are retooling in case things don't work in the next two years we aren't burdened with a 5M goalie who sucks

I get wanting to contend and have elite players at most key positions. However our cap situation made it tough to get a quality 1G with a proven track record/youth/upside unless we sacrificed a core piece.

Dubas sticks with his team building philosophy, he knows what's on the line next playoffs. This is a move which doesn't ruin our future in the depressing scenario of a post Matthews timeline.

We didn't give Kuemper 6 years 6.5M fortunately or something crazy like that.

The moves a C right now, but if Murray bounces back it can become a B+. Have to see how he fits in our team and with our defensive system. If he flourishes who cares about trying to get more value on the deal, as

Value in performance >> value via a trade

It's a risk, one that could very well fail. We're in year 5 now, so I think this is the only move which was alright to make, getting a goalie with high playoff pedigree was needed imo very badly

I'm no dubas super fan. I think he's been solid in his 4 years here, and this is a make or break type move. However I don't think we should think of it as trash and a failure until we see Murray's performance

This dude was as touted as Vas, Shesty etc back from. 2014 to 2018
 
I’d take Dylan Strome on a cheap deal to prove his worth. Also wouldn’t mind picking up Lemieux for the 4th line if he was cheap aswell
 
Ok Dubas .. at least try to redeem yourself with some of these unqualified UFA's:

- Colin White
- Sam Steel
- Sonny Milano
- Dominik Kubalik
- Ilya Samsonov
Walked away and did some work and yea this is basically what i am thinking about. There HAS to be a trade aside from this one to figure out the mess we just added lmao
 
Nobody is picking on Murray. Everyone picking on how the trade went down
You could have waited until he got bought off. Everyone in Somalia knew he was going to get bought off
Then sign him to a cheaper deal

Look what Buffalo was being offered. We got hosed
He couldn’t be bought out. Wasn’t healthy enough to be cleared to play, so couldn’t be bought out.
 
If we could somehow get Perron to sign for 2 years at 4M it would be amazing

Deal kerfoot for a 2nd

Deal holl for a C/D goalie prospect or a 5th

5.5M created right there

4M to a guy who can be better than 91 and 88 on any given night would be amazing (not saying perron is better than them but he has the talent and ability to match or exceed their performances from time to time)

The remaing 1.5M split between Engvall and Sandin raises. Give Engvall 900k raise and sandin a 600k one

We still have 5M I think left. Promote Robertson for sure and play him on line 1 for the first 10 games.

Drop Bunting to line 3 and see if he along with 1 2M ufa 3C we sign can form a strong offensive depth line.

Get a backup goalie for 1.5M.
Sign a 1.5M grinding winger who likes to crash and bang

Run

Robertson - Matthews - Marner
Perron - JT - Nylander
Bunting - 3C (white/tierney) -Engvall
Jack Dugan/Cam Morrison - Kampf - Simmonds/Marlies top 6 player
 
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Think it'll take much to get Adin Hill from SJ? Can't really think of another decent, cheap backup

I'd be shocked if they trade him to keep Reimer. I think the Leafs would be interested in Hill. Not sure on the value.

San Jose is in a weird spot. Maybe Holl would be enough if they are looking at defensive help.
 
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He is not having a good week. First he thinks Minten was worth 25 and being ecstatic when he was there at 38 when he is a guy who should have been taken in the 60's or 70's. Then this trade.

Like how did this trade take so long only for it to amount to this...
Minten was absolutely worth his spot, you have no clue what you're talking about. Stop following lists.
 
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