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GDT: Trade and Free Agency Thread - 2021/22 PART IV

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Kurtz said:
What makes moving Ritchie more complicated is that he's owed $3.3mil in real dollars next year. Really odd contract by Kyle. I think we'll have to pay to get rid of it.
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This structure has become common with recent signings due to the higher escrow the players are facing during these interrupted seasons.
 
If the Leafs eventually make a deadline deal to fortify the lineup, Ritchie is just going to be a body going the other direction to balance out the cap situation.
 
Would he not have been traded if he's going to get claimed? Why would an interested team risk another team claiming him rather just giving up a 7th or something. Not like the Leafs value him that much, they just put the guy on waivers. It would be surprising if he got claimed. Hopefully he gets claimed.

Maybe he gets traded after he clears.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Turris' contract is not fully able to be buried, and he sucks. Like really bad. He is not even worth half of his money.

I would take Turris' contract to make the money work, but I'd want something else that has actual tangible value outside of dumping Ritchie's money next year.

I mean if they want to do Mrazek + Ritchie for Koskinen + Turris + valuable assets, I would listen, but they'd need to make the major downgrade in depth worth our while. Cap is practically equal, but obviously they get guys with term who can actually play instead of subpar pending UFA's who should not be in the NHL right now.
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My mistake - the poster also mentioned buying Turris down at 50% to make the cap work for the Leafs. They seem to dislike him quite a bit.
 
Jozay said:
Would he not have been traded if he's going to get claimed? Why would an interested team risk another team claiming him rather just giving up a 7th or something. Not like the Leafs value him that much, they just put the guy on waivers. It would be surprising if he got claimed. Hopefully he gets claimed.

Maybe he gets traded after he clears.
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Why do any players ever get claimed then?
 
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The Podium said:
Why do any players ever get claimed then?
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Guessing the good ones worth claiming, making peanuts get claimed. Another poster mentioned that a team claiming a player will have to put him through waivers again in order to send him down. Once he has made it through waivers, if you trade for him, he can be sent down (i.e. Gally). Makes sense if true.
 
Jozay said:
Would he not have been traded if he's going to get claimed? Why would an interested team risk another team claiming him rather just giving up a 7th or something. Not like the Leafs value him that much, they just put the guy on waivers. It would be surprising if he got claimed. Hopefully he gets claimed.

Maybe he gets traded after he clears.
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Lots of people think this means the Leafs want to get rid of him, but I'm not sure that's true at all. I assume it's more that the Leafs are taking this risk with the hope of keeping him on the taxi squad, knowing that if they do lose him they gain cap and flexibility at the deadline.

Waivers right now is kind of a no-lose situation.
 
Kurtz said:
What makes moving Ritchie more complicated is that he's owed $3.3mil in real dollars next year. Really odd contract by Kyle. I think we'll have to pay to get rid of it.
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Ritchie sucks a lot and his contract is probably the worst Dubas has handed out in free agency but that seems excessive. He's not Patrick Marleau contract bad at all and there is no term that makes this a contract you have to pay someone to take over. His salary being 500k over his cap hit seems like a very no big deal at all. The return would be bad or non-existent and if there are no takers, the Leafs are not in dire need to clear his whole cap hit.

For example, the Coyotes are retaining 990k of OEL's contract for over 5 years and 2M of dead salary this year... they can manage Ritchies salary for 1 year, especially with the thought of flipping him at a later date for more picks or whatever.

I'd be shocked if he was claimed. The guy has been terrible with very little redeeming things in his game. Leafs only needed to clear about 1M in cap space so it's not big deal if he clears and stays around the taxi squad. He's at the very least a good depth forward if an injury hits.
 
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horner said:
Trouba FA for 1st + Pionk

McDonagh 1 1/2 yrs left on his deal+ Miller - very good player
for
Namestikov + Howden + Hajek+ 1st (2018)+ 2nd (2019)

Going of the McDonagh deal

Sandin + Amirov + Ritchie + 1st (2022) + 2nd (2023)
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Who’s the young impactful forward that’s coming along with chychurn in the deal?
 
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horner said:
Trouba FA for 1st + Pionk

McDonagh 1 1/2 yrs left on his deal+ Miller - very good player
for
Namestikov + Howden + Hajek+ 1st (2018)+ 2nd (2019)

Going of the McDonagh deal

Sandin + Amirov + Ritchie + 1st (2022) + 2nd (2023)
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How are those deals at all comparable? Sandin is better than anyone in the McDonagh package and we aren’t getting an impact player back with Chychrun
 
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With guys like Marner being on the LTIR this season how much cap space has actually been accrued? Everyone seems to be using pro rated deadline cap hits but I'm not sure if those will work for the leafs given they have used the LTIR for pretty much the entire season with Mikheyev then Mrazek then Marner.

Capfriendly seem to have the leafs at 300k cap space for the deadline: Toronto Maple Leafs Daily Cap Tracker - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
 
Fogelhund said:
I know this is ban me from the board worthy.... but E. Kane + Reimer at 50% each, for Ritchie, Mrazek + 2023 2nd. The thing is, it gets us a good backup at a great price, gets us out from Ritchie and Mrazek. We can move Kerfoot in the offseason, and open up cap room.
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I want nothing to do with Kane but Reimer isn't a bad option..
 
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I’d do Holl + 2022 1st (or Robertson) + B prospect/2nd for Klingberg.

Dallas might have more interest in Robertson since his brother is there.

Klingberg gives us a RHD who should greatly help the PP. He’ll be a rental most likely, but could be a great fit on our blue line.
 
How are Klingberg's defensive metrics?

Could be the upgrade on Holl they'd like. That being said re-signing could be tough and I really don't like the idea of giving up good assets for a pure rental.
 
Phion Keneuf said:
I’d do Holl + 2022 1st (or Robertson) + B prospect/2nd for Klingberg.

Dallas might have more interest in Robertson since his brother is there.

Klingberg gives us a RHD who should greatly help the PP. He’ll be a rental most likely, but could be a great fit on our blue line.
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Robertson would be a lot to give up unless you could dump Ritchie, find a cheaper replacement for Mrazek, and extend him.

I'm fine with a draft pick but we'll need that LW depth soon enough.
 
LeafChief said:
I do not want to trade big assets for a rental again. Bad idea.
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When did we ever get a big asset ? Foligno, Boyle, Plekanec were all declining players

Last player or D we got was Muzzin who had a year left on his deal

We need a Big D who can manage the point. Look what McDonagh and Savard did for Tempa
 
Phion Keneuf said:
I’d do Holl + 2022 1st (or Robertson) + B prospect/2nd for Klingberg.

Dallas might have more interest in Robertson since his brother is there.

Klingberg gives us a RHD who should greatly help the PP. He’ll be a rental most likely, but could be a great fit on our blue line.
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100%.

This is a difference maker
 
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Ouck Fttawa said:
100%.

This is a difference maker
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Yeah interesting idea.

Thing is it's really starting to look like a buyer's market. At least 11 teams are legit out of the playoff race already and I imagine more will be by the deadline....and a whole lot of those are teams that are facing the harsh reality of having to start a significant retooling or more to get back into contention.
 
Klingberg would be a great addition.

He was an absolute stud in that playoff run even when Heiskanen got all the praise. So many clutch moments.

But yeah that price is going to be steep and probably not something the Leafs want to pay. I would imagine it's going to come from a team that is capable of re-signing him.
 
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