DeagleJenkins
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that i would have to disagree with. far less prep work along with no worry of popping a bun in the oven.
Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - LIV
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No, he’ll fit right in being he can help a team succeed in the regular season and never do anything in postseason.
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I'd be very interested in learning why a team with one of the worst center cores in the league, and the worst by far among playoff teams, can't even sign centers like Meyers or McBain.
But on the other hand, then I think about how we acquired Jost to hopefully give him a better opportunity, and he's still playing on the fourth line because for some reason Gaudreau is untouchable on the second line.
But on the other hand, then I think about how we acquired Jost to hopefully give him a better opportunity, and he's still playing on the fourth line because for some reason Gaudreau is untouchable on the second line.
I wonder what Guerin is thinking; I always got the impression he wasn't so hot on McBain, because he thought he'd nabbed Meyers, but now that Meyers is out of the picture?
MN is all full up on centers is why.
-JEE for long term.
-Hartman for 2 more years.
-Freddy G for another season.
-Jost for another season and is a RFA.
-Rossi on an ELC.
-Then there is the Bjugstad (probably re-signed for cheap next year), Dewar, Shaw, etc. as the pressbox and callup options.
These aren't good centers by any means, but the GM seems really tied to "his guys".
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Like my position on McBain, I disagree wholeheartedly saying it is the Wilds fault for not making Meyers sign. From all of Russo's mentions, he was given the star tour of the team and pitched multiple times.
You can't FORCE college players to sign when there is a max ELC allowed. So unless we know what exactly their pitch was, its up to the player to decide where they want to live and how they project their own career trajectory.
You can't FORCE college players to sign when there is a max ELC allowed. So unless we know what exactly their pitch was, its up to the player to decide where they want to live and how they project their own career trajectory.
Isn't there some wiggle room in terms of bonuses? Also wasn't there some rumors that Minnesota hated giving out signing bonuses?
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"Full up on centers" just like every other team in the league. Can't see this as a valid reason when he just signed with Colorado who has much better centers than we do. We, as a group, need to find a better reason. None of the centers on your list are good enough to not be replaced by someone better.
Who said it's all the Wild's fault for not forcing Meyers to sign?
Well, Guerin isn't impressing me. Can't sign McBain, or Meyers, yet has time to give Goligoski not one, but two more years?
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That's what I'm trying to speculate on/comment about. I highly doubt the reason McBain and Meyers didn't want to sign is because we're "full on centers" or because we won't give them top six time like some here have speculated. So what else is left? Management? Coaching? The weather? The fact that Colorado and Arizona have legalized weed and Minnesota hasn't? The jersey colors? The availability of Mexican food?
Young guys gone:
McBain
Kahkonen
Sturm
Fiala
Lindberg
Young guys signed:
Chaffee
Boldy
Firstov
I have a feeling this has to do with the bonuses and how Minnesota is structuring pay.
McBain
Kahkonen
Sturm
Fiala
Lindberg
Young guys signed:
Chaffee
Boldy
Firstov
I have a feeling this has to do with the bonuses and how Minnesota is structuring pay.
Well, one out of two is better than the Wild have managed. Weird take, but I am surprised he didn't sign here.
What an asinine post..
You include a guy like Fiala, who is still playing for us and then you bring up Kahkonen and Sturm who brought back a similar aged player and a younger player respectively who conveniently aren't listed. Not to mention McBain who realistically brought back a younger player via draft pick. You also don't mention the franchise record breaking young forward who Billy G signed.(Kaprizov)
What a bad post.
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Cant really be too upset over losing something you never had, He got to choose where he wanted to play and it wasnt here, Would it of been nice? Absolutely but hes 23 whos spent his entire life in MN I cant fault him for wanting out, I peaced outta MN at the first chance I could
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I guess my post was a little bit above your thought level, so let me break it down for you:
Guerin struggled to sign Fiala long term - either he didn't think Fiala was important to the organization or he just flat out didn't like Fiala or his contract negotiations. There is a lot of history there between Fiala and Guerin. But Guerin has made a lot of moves to indicate that Fiala is not going to be back next year and that goes back to Fiala's first negotiations with Guerin and it hasn't gotten any better from there.
Kahkonen brought back Middleton who is going to be a RFA and it'll be interesting to see what Middleton's contract is going to be like. But until Middleton signs (if he signs), I won't put him into the category of guys like Guerin has signed. More so, Guerin has again made it very obvious he wasn't impressed by Kahkonen and has gone out of his way to get rid of Kahkonen - just hope that Talbot/Fleury doesn't get injured. Also can't wait to see the next goaltender everyone is going to be excited about and then go through a roller coaster of emotions behind.
Jost is signed, but has been a massive disappointment for the Avs. But he is signed. We'll see IF Guerin brings him back but again Guerin did everything he could to get rid of Sturm.
It's kind of too early to tell if McBain's pick will do anything.
And yeah I did forget about Kaprizov, but that in itself was a circus and a lot of people were criticizing the contract.
I'll remember this in the future though that I have to dumb down my posts.
With that said I do think that the buyouts are going to put a crimp in what Minnesota is going to do because it's hard to plan bonuses for the next season unless you just don't play them.
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something along the lines of signing after the trade deadline means he cant play in the playoffs. at least that is what i read.
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...or Guerin knew that Fiala is a luxury the Wild can't afford after buying out Suter and Parise.
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