Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!
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I sniped a quote from an Athletic article. Does Kevin Fiala make sense for the Senators? What are the pros and cons of a trade?
It's the contract tool is behind a paywall and I don't want to pay.
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I tried but apparently they have multiple levels of membership now and the contract projection tool is only for the higher of the two levels.
This is from a Russo article from Feb. 23. Fiala put up 43p in the 34 games after this was written. It's the closest I can find without spending a ton of time on it.
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This is from a Russo article from Feb. 23. Fiala put up 43p in the 34 games after this was written. It's the closest I can find without spending a ton of time on it.
So that basically works out to a 6 year, $8M contract starting next season.
That was chart was written when Fiala was only at 42p in 48 games (71.75p pace). The price has gone up since then due to the 85p in 82 game season he ended up with.
I think $8m x 6 is about what he'll end up with on another team. But an $8.5m/yr deal wouldn't surprise me at all.
These numbers are why I don't have a problem with Fiala being traded, they are just too big for me.
I don't think there is any way that Fiala gets more than $8M a year. If those are the projections for a 6 year deal, then maybe he will get closer to 4 years at $7.5M AAV.
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Fiala's stats for the year have him as a top-20 FWD league wide. He did this while playing with nobody center and half a season with a nobody wing and the other half with a rookie.
The last 3 years combined totals (FWDs) have him :
27th in points (Tied with Kopitar and DeBrincat)
33rd in assists (tied with Stone, Svechnikov, and Giroux)
25th in goals (tied with Point)
These are all big money names. The only player in this group below a $7.75m/yr cap hit is DeBrincat (no arbitration rights 2nd contract, 3 year bridge deal).
The price should be higher on a 4 year deal, not less. That is all prime age years without much worry about any type of fall off. There aren't anymore RFA years to help lower the cost.
Fiala was born to play for the NJD with Lindy Ruff as his HC.
Woof... Addison is not that ready for prime time yet. He'd get murdered in his own end trying to play those minutes.
Poor guy! Nobody deserves that!
The flip side of that would Goli/Spurgeon trying to play top-pair minutes.
I'll take the Brodin/Addison pairing because Brodin does have the ability to transfer into Yeo (super conservative d-zone) mode.
An improvement of Goli/Spurgeon, but I'd still take a Brodin pair. His speed. skating, and positioning are the best in the Wild d-corps. Plus he's had to carry lesser d-men since he was moved off the the Suter pairing.
I don't know if Spurgeon can handle top pair duties anymore. He's been playing less and less 5v5 time for the last 3 seasons (below 15 mins this season). Can he add an extra 3 or 4 mins a night of 5v5 time and stay healthy at 33 years old?
I have no problem with a Brodin pair, we know he can handle it. I have a problem with Addison on the top pair, no matter his partner, because he is NOT ready for those hard minutes in his own end.
I don't think Addison is ready either. But out of Goli, Merrill, and Addison there isn't really a good choice.
Addison is a better puck handler, better skater, and faster. His positioning and experience/instincts are where the other 2 are ahead of him. I'll take the skill abilities, along with the chance that he'll be able to add enough offence to offset some of the d-zone play decencies, and hope he's a fast learner.
Then watch Addison become a whipping boy when he proves he's not ready and makes a mistake that gives up a goal etc. Let him work his way up properly for his own development sake.
Suck it up and let Brodin carry someone else who won't have his future potentially impacted negatively by putting him in a spot he's not ready for.
If Addison proves he's ready sooner rather than later, move him up, but even in the AHL he looks like he's not close to top pair ready. Let him start as a PP specialist. God knows we need one.
It's kind of obvious that Addison should not be expected to go from being a guy who is beaten out by Jordie Benn for a #7D spot to a 1st pairing NHL Dman. I am pretty sure that he can be a positive on the PP, however, and while he might not be a defensive stalwart, he can move the puck better than almost all our bottom 3 or 4 D, and skate well enough that he'll get to pucks earlier that the pylons we have out there now. Goligoski is overall a smarter, more experienced player than him now, but the hope is that Addison will get better, while we all know that Goli's best days are behind him. Addison is already a better skater, and while he is small, he is stocky and feisty - it's not like Goli is a physical behemoth.
I just don't know what Evason/Guerin is doing with our D lineup. He just seems to sign people w/o any regard for how they fit with one another. Evason also keeps mentioning how someone like Benn is "loyal", and deserves to play, even though he is crap, with no upside.
Addison will be the whipping boy no matter where he plays if Dumba isn't on the team.
This is the Wild coaching staff running the PP and Spurgeon is still on the team. So it'll PP2 for Addison, if at all. Yes I have that little faith in the special teams coaching staff.
I still would prefer to do what's best for Addison, as what's best for Addison is what's best fur the Wild. Ease him into it, don't throw him into the fire and watch him burn. You'll destroy his confidence, then he'll never be mentally ready for such a role.
Not at all. I said his play in the AHL shows he's not ready for top pair in the NHL.
Oh, absolutely. 3rd pairing and PP guy, IMO. You could get by playing him with Brodin, but that's because Brodin can make just about anyone look good. He made Ryan Murphy look decent. I still don't know what Addison's deal is defensively. he doesn't make a lot of mistakes, and he is capable of winning puck battles, but sometimes he just looks disengaged in the AHL, and takes dumb, chippy penalties. It's like he is bored, but maybe I am reading too much into it.
He definitely deserves a shot, though. It's not like we are swimming in RHD, and the LHD we are putting on the offside are mediocre at best.
I'm not saying don't give him a chance if in the NHL he shows he deserves that chance, just do the right thing, play him on the 3rd pair, work him up as his play earns it.
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