Greenway, Goligoski etc... all belong in the AHL as it is. Why would we care if they are a part of this team? I'll take Fiala long term over those plugs all day every day.
Speculation: Trade and Free Agency Talk - 2022-23 Edition - Postseason Success can't be a Myth!
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Greenway, Goligoski etc... all belong in the AHL as it is. Why would we care if they are a part of this team? I'll take Fiala long term over those plugs all day every day.
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Well they don't really need to move Kane to help with their tank, they're doing just fine as it stands.
I'm not privy to the conversations they've had about his NMC, other than the rumors that he was only looking at Toronto or New York.
I think there are some other pieces that need to fall into place first though. Like Meier being the big one. I'm not sure if Buffalo is actually in on him or not. Carolina maybe. Vegas? Those are all places that you could maybe see Kane waiving for, if he ends up waiving. I think it benefits Chicago to wait until some of those questions are answered, but that is assuming Kane's top priority is going to a good team, at this point, and not playing hardball about just going to 1-3 places.
Just as an example, if Kane eventually decides he'd be okay with any of Vegas, Buffalo and Carolina, and those three are also in on Meier, waiting until Meier is dealt could increase the bidding war for Kane. Which means Chicago would be wise to not sell too early (unless, again, they get offered something now that they don't think will be beaten in a week and a half).
Can see it both ways, I just don't think Chicago has to be in a hurry here.
HobeyBroten
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Would there be any package we could offer that doesn't include KK to go up to #1 possibly?
I just don't see the needle moving much on Kane's value in the next week or so. I'd just take what I could get (within reason) as soon as possible if I'm CHI front office, as opposed to take the chance of being left holding the bag.
It's entirely up to Kane if he stays or where he goes. My feeling is he has a very small list of teams he's willing to go to and is equally fine just playing (on IR) out the season in CHI.
Do you have any blackmail material handy? If not, then no.
I think Judd is clueless when it comes to hockey
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Meh, sounds like two fans just trying to read the tea leaves. Maybe he's traded at some point, but I don't think being sat is the indicator. They also said maybe he's traded for Bertuzzi, which makes no sense for us.
He did have a good point about, is Dean the guy you want in charge as the young players come up. I agree that he isn't.
Dr Jan Itor
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Because he was fun to watch and I would've liked to do so for another 7-8 years.
It's actually ridiculously easy to make sense of.
Is Dean really just Mike Yeo with eyebrows and a better golf swing?
I mostly agree, but I figured it could make for interesting discussion.
Declan speculated that Bertuzzi should get a contract in the $5-6M range. That could be manageable if you do something like Bertuzzi for Addison+Greenway. I'm not opposed to that if his contract is something like 5 years $5.25AAV. There would still need to be some shuffling. Goligoski and MAF almost assuredly have to be replaced with lower cap hit players
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I can't personally verify the golf thing, but there are a lot of similarities there
I'm just not sure Bertuzzi is a guy I'd wanna make that commitment too. I do like him, don't get me wrong. I'm just not sure I like him that much.
If we're actively looking for top six help in free agency this summer, that's one thing, but let's do it there. Trading Addison and Greenway for a guy we can sign this summer seems like poor asset management. If you wanna make that kinda swap, trade Addison and Greenway for futures and then sign someone without giving up assets for it.
There may be no guarantee that Bertuzzi (or whoever you target) signs with us in free agency, but that's also not a guarantee if you trade Addison for him now.
Dean has a better jaw line?
Actually I think Dean and Yeo are polar opposites as coaches. The only thing they have in common to me is they aren't good head coaches.
Obvious Fabertism
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Hot goalie and prime Kaprizov and JEE, the franchise we just played is the template for a potential cup run, the Kings got Carter for the extra push, a gamble that paid off. I don't know if I would necessarily be buying, but I am not selling when I have a goalie showing as well as Gus has, Quick, Murray, Binnington, all templates for young goalies getting hot and going the distance despite flawed teams in front of them.
If they acquired Kane for a 2nd + sweetener, I would be excited to see what he can do, but they would also have to have a good idea of his medical issues. I wouldn't sell the first this year, but Kane is one of the few guys who could be available and does actually move the needle for this team's chances. If you aren't after a big player, may as well stick with what we have though, its still a tight group, and they are at least very well practiced in playing the low scoring games more common in a playoff series, so there is that. Faber as a potential add late could also be interesting to see if he can crack the lineup and make an impact.
If they acquired Kane for a 2nd + sweetener, I would be excited to see what he can do, but they would also have to have a good idea of his medical issues. I wouldn't sell the first this year, but Kane is one of the few guys who could be available and does actually move the needle for this team's chances. If you aren't after a big player, may as well stick with what we have though, its still a tight group, and they are at least very well practiced in playing the low scoring games more common in a playoff series, so there is that. Faber as a potential add late could also be interesting to see if he can crack the lineup and make an impact.
After this little run that the Wild have gone on, Billy G is definitely bringing in a scorer. The West is wide open, we have a scorching hot goalie, we have cap space for rentals. If the cost for Kane or Bertuzzi is a 2nd a B prospect, you have to do that. It's the law.
20 pts in 30 games as a college junior (even as a defenseman) doesn't exactly say "ready for the show" to me. He's not even the top scoring D on his team
Al Lagoon
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Zucker and haula were also highly entertaining in their day.
Like you, loved watching Fiala play.
Doubt very much he will be this good in 5 years , let alone 7-8.
Dr Jan Itor
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Were they? Or was this just grouping some lefties together to try and make a point? Surprised you didn’t include Gaborik, though that would kind of defeat the point.
He’s ready IMO.
Racking up the points is not his game. He’s going to provide great defensive play and being able to get the puck up the ice efficiently.
Does he even play on the power play? 20pts with no power play is actually pretty decent for a dman.
5 points out of first and 6 points from top seed in West. they've survived a tough January and February schedule
StateofCelly
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Very rarely, he comes out on the 2nd unit which doesn't see a lot of ice time. Stat watchers might hesitate to say he is ready but all you have to do is watch him. Been to a handful of Gopher games this year and when you can watch his isolated game, it's there. Very cerebral player, and similar in aspect to an NFL cornerback where the fact that you're not hearing his name called left and right is the exact reason he is having an impact.
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