Trade and FA Rumours 2022/23 Part 2

[TheJadePipe]

I would love to see a trade with the Sens.. players involved Helly and Chabot.
Adding pieces and picks from either side to make it work.
Sens are gonna be pretty good, and if Helly truly wants to win he has a chance there

 

[Whileee]

Welcome to "No-Trade Clause Kicks In" Eve, to all who celebrate.

Should be interesting to see which teams try to move players today before their NTC kicks in (e.g. Sanheim).

 

[larmex99]

Yeah and with the comments by Chevy on Cole it sounds like he will be first in line to replace PLD in the middle. It may actually give us a stronger forward core if we can add another middle 6 forward.

As Mike Tyson pointed out “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face”.

 

[gojetsgo]

a wheeler buyout gives us 14.5 million to spend, some of that will go to our rfa's but we still could have a good chunk and with the tight cap we may actually be able to get a good player in the bottom six

 

[DannyGallivan]

Would you trade Scheifele for Nylander and resign him at 9.5M?

No

 

[SeLaine]

If Carolina is moving Pesce I wonder if a deal around Pesce for Scheifele with some adds on either side would work.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

If Carolina is moving Pesce I wonder if a deal around Pesce for Scheifele with some adds on either side would work.

Doubt it unless Carolina takes back pionk or Schmidt

 

[Maukkis]

If we can get Barron, Kupari, Samberg and Vilardi locked up at a total of 10 million or less, that leaves 5ish million for a backup goalie and two whatever skaters before any trades. There's not going to be much wiggle room.

I'm starting to lean towards the following:

- if there's even a passable trade for Hellebuyck out there, it needs to be taken. We know that when the first wave of the UFA rush subsides, there's virtually no cap space left anywhere, and Hellebuyck is going to command a lot of it. Now would be an excellent opportunity to jump the queue, before we are left with 37 and no trade partners whatsoever.
- dump Pionk at first given opportunity. We're stuck with Schmidt, but Pionk could be an interesting piece for a team looking for offense from the blue line. Now that we're going to have Wheeler's buyout penalty on the books in 24-25, this just became more of a priority.

 

[Huffer]

I would love to see a trade with the Sens.. players involved Helly and Chabot.
Adding pieces and picks from either side to make it work.
Sens are gonna be pretty good, and if Helly truly wants to win he has a chance there

I can't see Helle going to the Sens, but if there was a deal there I would prefer one of their C's like Norris or Pinto+.

 

[tbcwpg]

I would love to see a trade with the Sens.. players involved Helly and Chabot.
Adding pieces and picks from either side to make it work.
Sens are gonna be pretty good, and if Helly truly wants to win he has a chance there

Sens aren't going to be pretty good without Chabot, he plays like 25-30 minutes a night for them.

 

[WpgSteve]

If we can get Barron, Kupari, Samberg and Vilardi locked up at a total of 10 million or less, that leaves 5ish million for a backup goalie and two whatever skaters before any trades. There's not going to be much wiggle room.

I'm starting to lean towards the following:

- if there's even a passable trade for Hellebuyck out there, it needs to be taken. We know that when the first wave of the UFA rush subsides, there's virtually no cap space left anywhere, and Hellebuyck is going to command a lot of it. Now would be an excellent opportunity to jump the queue, before we are left with 37 and no trade partners whatsoever.
- dump Pionk at first given opportunity. We're stuck with Schmidt, but Pionk could be an interesting piece for a team looking for offense from the blue line. Now that we're going to have Wheeler's buyout penalty on the books in 24-25, this just became more of a priority.

I agree with this. There are only so many starting goalie jobs and teams will start locking things up early. Just take the best offer and move on.

A Scheifele trade can be slow played if it has to be.

 

[gojetsgo]

only thing is he wonders if the pld trade changes the minds of scheif/helle in staying, honestly doubt that would change there mind but I think if the market is weak for them and they don't think they are going to get good value on their next contracts that could be the reason they change their minds in staying

 

[DRW204]

 

[JetsFan815]

Mercer I think is absolutely 0 chance. Nemec could happen if the Jets retain, he hasn't played on the Devils and the Devils have lots of D.

 

[surixon]

What an awful deal that Duchene contract turned into for them.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

only thing is he wonders if the pld trade changes the minds of scheif/helle in staying, honestly doubt that would change there mind but I think if the market is weak for them and they don't think they are going to get good value on their next contracts that could be the reason they change their minds in staying

Friedman thinks this, he thinks that but in reality Chevy telling him that drafting Barlow was hot, tells me what Chevy thinks of what Friedman thinks. Chevy basically told EF to FOff

 

[Keystone]

Duchene is still a productive player. 142 points over last 2 seasons. Very surprising they couldn’t move him with a little retention.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Woah. Duchene didn't have any value?

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

Do we take a flyer on Duchene?

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Duchene is still a productive player. 142 points over last 2 seasons. Very surprising they couldn’t move him with a little retention.

8 million reasons plus he's a loser

Do we take a flyer on Duchene?

Do we want to destroy our room, do we not have enough wingers. He didn't play center for them.

 

[gojetsgo]

Mercer I think is absolutely 0 chance. Nemec could happen if the Jets retain, he hasn't played on the Devils and the Devils have lots of D.

yeah, highly doubt he is available, they need all the high end elc's they can get, idk why him not playing in the nhl in his d+1 even matters...

 

[tbcwpg]

Woah. Duchene didn't have any value?

At $8m for 3 more years, no.

 

[DRW204]

Looks like a bunch more top 6-9ers will be available for dirt cheap. No wonder why it's cool on scheifele.

I'd think Iafallo would've been one of them too if we hadn't taken his full cap.

 

[WolfHouse]

Mercer I think is absolutely 0 chance. Nemec could happen if the Jets retain, he hasn't played on the Devils and the Devils have lots of D.

I think we are underselling Helle if we are retaining... I don't see any other goalie out there who gets them a cup - running it back with Vanecek seems like a huge mistake and Schmid is a huge gamble

Helle at 6m is a bargain - I think a combo of him and Schmid gets NJD to the finals

 

[JetsFan815]

I think we are underselling Helle if we are retaining... I don't see any other goalie out there who gets them a cup - running it back with Vanecek seems like a huge mistake and Schmid is a huge gamble

Helle at 6m is a bargain - I think a combo of him and Schmid gets NJD to the finals

Retaining on Helle would be to increase the value of a return, not to just get rid of him.