OT: Totally Legal Music Sharing Thread sponsored by Napster

[Bench]

A Classic for you young'uns.

I don't know if you've noticed, but most of this thread is music from before I was born. And I'm not even that young.

 

[Gniwder]

I don't know if you've noticed, but most of this thread is music from before I was born. And I'm not even that young.

It's because music got so commercialized it's all garbage now. Very few artists are creating music, the vast majority are creating sellable products.

TBH, that song came out before I was born too, lol.

 

[Bench]

It's because music got so commercialized it's all garbage now. Very few artists are creating music, the vast majority are creating sellable products.

I don't think that's true at all. There's so much incredible stuff happening that is innovative and shows remarkable artistry.

And for the first time in history, it can be accessed and shared without a big record deal or without label promotion.

 

[Gniwder]

I don't think that's true at all. There's so much incredible stuff happening that is innovative and shows remarkable artistry.

And for the first time in history, it can be accessed and shared without a big record deal or without label promotion.

By all means post examples then. I don't cruise the web for new music, and they don't play that kinda stuff on radio.

 

[Bench]

By all means post examples then. I don't cruise the web for new music, and they don't play that kinda stuff on radio.

What kind of music are you into normally?

 

[Gniwder]

What kind of music are you into normally?

Classic rock, usually not the hard stuff. Been listening to Dire Straits, Doors, Animals in the car lately.

Dave Matthews is the last time I bought an album, lol. I'm really old school.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

By all means post examples then. I don't cruise the web for new music, and they don't play that kinda stuff on radio.

I 2nd this.

 

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[Bench]

I 2nd this.

I've already posted some in this very thread!

Classic rock, usually not the hard stuff. Been listening to Dire Straits, Doors, Animals in the car lately.

Dave Matthews is the last time I bought an album, lol. I'm really old school.

But I'll try to find something that fits this classic rock vibe here. Or at least rock, alt vibes.

I went through a big DMB phase in college way back when so I'm pretty intimate with their vibes. I don't even want to admit how many concerts I went to. That shouldn't be hard for me to find some recommendations.

 

[Bench]

Indie darling Phoebe Bridgers might be a good place to dip into new music.



I Know the End is one of my favorite songs in the last... I dunno how long. A good while. It starts off as a pretty typical sounding ballad of sorts and then takes a serious shift and builds to an incredible climax (I'm a sucker for horns) with metal invoked screaming to capstone a near perfect Punisher album.

More to come!

 

[deca guard]

continuing the best rock guitarist of the 70s theme johnny winter ,
if you click on can see at youtube:

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I've already posted some in this very thread!

But I'll try to find something that fits this classic rock vibe here. Or at least rock, alt vibes.

Yes, I've sampled it. The Phoebe B. song you posted above is probably better than all of them. It's listenable (which is saying a lot for most music, especially post ~1984, when R&R started it's descent), but I wouldn't include it in my library, or yearn for it in the future.


Since there's a 2-3 Generation gap b/w what I listen to (mostly '62-early 80's) & what you're familiar with & exposed to (current & "newer" stuff) , it may be difficult to find the "fit" for the Classic Rock/ original '60s&70s R&B / Progressive Rock /Hard Rock, from the Golden Era.

I'll point you to this post as a source for great bands/artists of that era/those genres (imo): OT: - Totally Legal Music Sharing Thread sponsored by Napster

I say this b/c the older generations "newer" stuff is post-1984-ish. Or at minimum early/mid/late 90's., the latter of which is the younger gens' "oldies".


"I went through a big DMB phase in college way back when so I'm pretty intimate with their vibes. I don't even want to admit how many concerts I went to.DMB phase" ... It was the horn section wasn't it.


from 1 hard core Muse fan to another ICYMI




Looking forward to your findings.

 

[deca guard]

datsomatic : '' (which is saying a lot for most music, especially post ~1984, when R&R started it's descent) ''

1984 is exactly when i quit rock because it was over , and went country ever since seeing hank williams jr at cobo hall detroit summer of 84

 

[Bench]

It's listenable (which is saying a lot for most music, especially post ~1984, when R&R started it's descent), but I wouldn't include it in my library, or yearn for it in the future.

This is wild to me, because there was no uniform shift in music universally. That's impossible. Popular tastes change, and so I think that's what you're experiencing, but everything is still trucking along like it always has. If anything, there's more artists and choices now than ever.

Are you sure you aren't stuck in the nostalgia?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

This is wild to me, because there was no uniform shift in music universally. That's impossible. Popular tastes change, and so I think that's what you're experiencing, but everything is still trucking along like it always has. If anything, there's more artists and choices now than ever.

Are you sure you aren't stuck in the nostalgia?

"Nostalgia?" ...Good question. I don't believe so, at all. However, I do compare the quality of the sample sizes of post '84 music to that of the Golden Era (as coined by many, way more knowledgeable than I).

As ButtKrak said, newer music isn't that great. Part of that equation/thinking is that we've (older gens.) have had substantially less exposure to the so-called good stuff you refer to. Part of it is preference.

Pre-1985, Rap/Hip-Hop & R&B (the modern version of it) didn't really exist even. With it's growing & immense popularity there was a shift by the early 90's. (thankfully we had Nirvana/grunge) Combine that with the great R&R (classic/blues/R&B/Prog.Rock/Hard Rock/50s Motown,70s Freedom rock & other subgenres etc.) either dead/dying, retiring, too old to tour/make new records etc. & you have a divide in tastes. Dictated & perpetuated by record co's selling the 1-hit wonder single on an album mostly full of subpar music.

Mixed loop Gurus & 2 chord wonders permeate the landscape.


....And you never hear another Jimi Hendrix* again.

*= any all-time great: Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Yes ('71-'80).

I'd love it if any band of any genre came close though. Muse has the best chance, but they won't crack my top 7-8, ever.


P.S. Ask yourself this (if you think newer music is better than the 60-80 period)...What band could last 30-60 Years & still sell out Giant Stadium tours, merchandise, LPs/CDs, etc ?

...It's not Puff Diddy

 

[Bench]

"Nostalgia?" ...Good question. I don't believe so, at all. However, I do compare the quality of the sample sizes of post '84 music to that of the Golden Era (as coined by many, way more knowledgeable than I).

As ButtKrak said, newer music isn't that great. Part of that equation/thinking is that we've (older gens.) have had substantially less exposure to the so-called good stuff you refer to. Part of it is preference.

Pre-1985, Rap/Hip-Hop & R&B (the modern version of it) didn't really exist even. With it's growing & immense popularity there was a shift by the early 90's. (thankfully we had Nirvana/grunge) Combine that with the great R&R (classic/blues/R&B/Prog.Rock/Hard Rock/50s Motown,70s Freedom rock & other subgenres etc.) either dead/dying, retiring, too old to tour/make new records etc. & you have a divide in tastes. Dictated & perpetuated by record co's selling the 1-hit wonder single on an album mostly full of subpar music.

Mixed loop Gurus & 2 chord wonders permeate the landscape.


....And you never hear another Jimi Hendrix* again.

*= any all-time great: Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Yes ('71-'80).

I'd love it if any band of any genre came close though. Muse has the best chance, but they won't crack my top 7-8, ever.

I don't know, it's hard to imagine it's just a pure coincidence that music while you were younger and more in-step with society is actually the peak. Eh. Hard to believe.

And I don't think new music is better. I listen to things from virtually every decade. I think people are people and they are still making music and it's now more widely available than ever, so by extension, the quantity of great music I can listen to and find is better than ever. The classics are still there. But there are new classics being made every year.

I mean, my streaming service has over 60 million songs. Services like Spotify add 60,000 new songs every day. It's undeniably the best time in the history of the world to be a music lover. You've never had more choice or opportunity to find all that talent.

P.S. Ask yourself this (if you think newer music is better than the 60-80 period)...What band could last 30-60 Years & still sell out Giant Stadium tours, merchandise, LPs/CDs, etc ?

OK, but how many of those had new albums that were relevant in the last 30 years? Bands like Coldplay and Metallica are approaching 30 years of sellout stadiums. Not my taste, but that's how these things work. The old guys will die and the new guys will replace them. Jay-Z and Taylor Swift are here to stay for a long, long time. And fans of Swift and Jay-Z will be singing their praises to younglings in 30 years and lamenting new music.

Time is a flat circle.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I don't know, it's hard to imagine it's just a pure coincidence that music while you were younger and more in-step with society is actually the peak. Eh. Hard to believe.

And I don't think new music is better. I listen to things from virtually every decade. I think people are people and they are still making music and it's now more widely available than ever, so by extension, the quantity of great music I can listen to and find is better than ever. The classics are still there. But there are new classics being made every year.

I mean, my streaming service has over 60 million songs. Services like Spotify add 60,000 new songs every day. It's undeniably the best time in the history of the world to be a music lover. You've never had more choice or opportunity to find all that talent.


OK, but how many of those had new albums that were relevant in the last 30 years? Bands like Coldplay and Metallica are approaching 30 years of sellout stadiums. Not my taste, but that's how these things work. The old guys will die and the new guys will replace them. Jay-Z and Taylor Swift are here to stay for a long, long time. And fans of Swift and Jay-Z will be singing their praises to younglings in 30 years and lamenting new music.

Time is a flat circle.

It's all subjective anyway. One person/generation(s) good music is another's crap.

Finding/sifting through 60M songs is the issue. I still find music, regardless of genre/age of artists, to this day, that I never knew about & I'm elated when I do, it's like finding treasure. Though I'm extremely picky about what I have in my digital library. Even more pickier w/LP+CD formats. I usually find them in YT comment of songs/bands I already like or have knowledge about. Also Guitars101 + numerous blogs/vlogs, FB music groups.

I do have ~25-30 songs Rap/HH/R&B in a playlist, mostly mid-80's-90's, maybe early00's. Whoomp There It Is, Sir Humpty, etc. Entitled "Club music" playlist. fun, entertaining, catchy, can do a drunken dance/sing-along to it if/when inclined, sure. But to listen to it for it's musical merit? No.

Classical music, 1 of my fav. genres for instance, has withstood the test of time 200-400+ yrs. Remarkable.

I do always try to speak to the younger gens. about music, since they're at the forefront. I'd be interested in seeing your Top25 (or more) bands/artist. All/any genres. Also, I'd like to see a top10-20 for each genre if you wanna be specific (in that case do 60s-80s R&R w/subgenres as outlined earlier) , since it's hard to compare Sergei Rachmaninoff to 'Lil Yatzhee, or Otis Redding to The Spice Girls.

It's hard for many prof. musicians to call something music w/o: lead/rhythm/bass/pedal-steel & acoustic guitars. Add vocals/actual singing/harmonizing + drums, keyboards/piano/synth. to that list + dozens of other instruments (sax for example). Comp. Gen. beats w/virtually 2-3 notes & some repetitive belched out "lyric" is Not music. Beyonce's 'Umbrella' comes to mind.

My 28yo nephew is an accomplished guitarist, loves Zappa, lots of classic rock, Nirvana etc. My 33yo niece & her husband are into rap/HH/r&b....the latter being a product of their gen. The former, a musician who can ID talent & replicate it. That's the difference.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

@Bench


I came across this young Spanish all female band known as 'Hinds' last year. Beautiful music, they have a lot of talent. Very endearing. I usually sample studio music, not live, but this band is even better live, watched 3-4 full concerts (2016-2020) on YT & was glad I did. Haven't watched a '21 show yet.

Very well produced, won some awards, bright future - Wiki.


the more I listen to this song the better it gets...



Alternate Vs.





Would like your feedback on them after listening.

 

[Stony Curtis]

W.O.W. ! another guitar master at the top of his game

Bridge of Sighs is a pretty great record. It's been a while, so I'm gonna listen to it right now.

 

[MBH]

 

[MBH]

Granddaddy is a turn of the century band whose music holds up very well

 

[MBH]

Another Grandaddy tune - their opus, perhaps

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

datsomatic : '' (which is saying a lot for most music, especially post ~1984, when R&R started it's descent) ''

1984 is exactly when i quit rock because it was over , and went country ever since seeing hank williams jr at cobo hall detroit summer of 84

The younger gens. will never know what the 60s/70s & early 80s was like, musically speaking. A totally different world.

I'm very receptive to any good music of any genre, but new or "newer" usually disappoints, having heard 20yrs+ of the Best.

 

[MBH]

The 45 seconds of this video, with the synth, is beautiful