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For a Gen-X'er like me, "newer music" is post ~1980, while "New" is post ~1990-1995. On that note, CAKE (the band) is criminally underrated. There is no weakness in their music, studio or live. I've rated them 22nd all-time (all genres), which is lofty considering all the competition (I'm extremely picky about music). John McCrea & his vibraslap, dull/mono vocals & their hodgepodge mix of musical styles really sell it. They're only behind Muse, Nirvana & NIN (ranked within top 10-20 all-time) for post-1990 bands, making them the 4th best band since! (HM: Phantom Planet)
They have a unique style & work it well. A certain je ne sais quoi, they have it, they get it & are always entertaining. One of those bands you can listen to daily for consecutive months & months and not get burned out.
(per Wiki)
"McCrea's voice has a distinctive "rough-around-the-edges" quality, which is especially evident when he sings in the lower part of his vocal range. He is also known for half-singing, half-speaking lyrics in many of his songs, sometimes in a kind of energetic monotone....McCrea also commonly sings with off-beat rhythms and emphasizes the consonants in words instead of the vowels."
Something they do really well is: Contrapuntal Forms , "In music, counterpoint is the relationship between two or more musical lines (or voices) which are harmonically interdependent yet independent in rhythm and melodic contour.[1] It has been most commonly identified in the European classical tradition, strongly developing during the Renaissance and in much of the common practice period, especially in the Baroque. The term originates from the Latin punctus contra punctum meaning "point against point", i.e. "note against note".
In Western pedagogy, counterpoint is taught through a system of species (see below).
There are several different forms of counterpoint, including imitative counterpoint and free counterpoint. Imitative counterpoint involves the repetition of a main melodic idea across different vocal parts, with or without variation. Compositions written in free counterpoint often incorporate non-traditional harmonies and chords, chromaticism and dissonance. "
"The term "counterpoint" has been used to designate a voice or even an entire composition.[2] Counterpoint focuses on melodic interaction—only secondarily on the harmonies produced by that interaction. In the words of John Rahn:
It is hard to write a beautiful song. It is harder to write several individually beautiful songs that, when sung simultaneously, sound as a more beautiful polyphonic whole. The internal structures that create each of the voices separately must contribute to the emergent structure of the polyphony, which in turn must reinforce and comment on the structures of the individual voices. The way that is accomplished in detail is ... 'counterpoint'.[3]
Work initiated by Guerino Mazzola (born 1947) has given counterpoint theory a mathematical foundation. In particular, Mazzola's model gives a structural (and not psychological) foundation of forbidden parallels of fifths and the dissonant fourth. Octavio Agustin has extended the model to microtonal contexts.[4][5]
In counterpoint, the functional independence of voices is the prime concern. The violation of this principle leads to special effects, which are avoided in counterpoint. In organ registers, certain interval combinations and chords are activated by a single key so that playing a melody results in parallel voice leading. These voices, losing independence, are fused into one and the parallel chords are perceived as single tones with a new timbre. This effect is also used in orchestral arrangements; for instance, in Ravel’s Bolero #5 the parallel parts of flutes, horn and celesta resemble the sound of an electric organ. In counterpoint, parallel voices are prohibited because they violate the homogeneity of musical texture when independent voices occasionally disappear turning into a new timbre quality and vice versa."
Actual 2004 concert (YT uploader listed wrong date...Proof: those songs weren't written & recorded before early 2000's)
They have a unique style & work it well. A certain je ne sais quoi, they have it, they get it & are always entertaining. One of those bands you can listen to daily for consecutive months & months and not get burned out.
(per Wiki)
"McCrea's voice has a distinctive "rough-around-the-edges" quality, which is especially evident when he sings in the lower part of his vocal range. He is also known for half-singing, half-speaking lyrics in many of his songs, sometimes in a kind of energetic monotone....McCrea also commonly sings with off-beat rhythms and emphasizes the consonants in words instead of the vowels."
Something they do really well is: Contrapuntal Forms , "In music, counterpoint is the relationship between two or more musical lines (or voices) which are harmonically interdependent yet independent in rhythm and melodic contour.[1] It has been most commonly identified in the European classical tradition, strongly developing during the Renaissance and in much of the common practice period, especially in the Baroque. The term originates from the Latin punctus contra punctum meaning "point against point", i.e. "note against note".
In Western pedagogy, counterpoint is taught through a system of species (see below).
There are several different forms of counterpoint, including imitative counterpoint and free counterpoint. Imitative counterpoint involves the repetition of a main melodic idea across different vocal parts, with or without variation. Compositions written in free counterpoint often incorporate non-traditional harmonies and chords, chromaticism and dissonance. "
"The term "counterpoint" has been used to designate a voice or even an entire composition.[2] Counterpoint focuses on melodic interaction—only secondarily on the harmonies produced by that interaction. In the words of John Rahn:
It is hard to write a beautiful song. It is harder to write several individually beautiful songs that, when sung simultaneously, sound as a more beautiful polyphonic whole. The internal structures that create each of the voices separately must contribute to the emergent structure of the polyphony, which in turn must reinforce and comment on the structures of the individual voices. The way that is accomplished in detail is ... 'counterpoint'.[3]
Work initiated by Guerino Mazzola (born 1947) has given counterpoint theory a mathematical foundation. In particular, Mazzola's model gives a structural (and not psychological) foundation of forbidden parallels of fifths and the dissonant fourth. Octavio Agustin has extended the model to microtonal contexts.[4][5]
In counterpoint, the functional independence of voices is the prime concern. The violation of this principle leads to special effects, which are avoided in counterpoint. In organ registers, certain interval combinations and chords are activated by a single key so that playing a melody results in parallel voice leading. These voices, losing independence, are fused into one and the parallel chords are perceived as single tones with a new timbre. This effect is also used in orchestral arrangements; for instance, in Ravel’s Bolero #5 the parallel parts of flutes, horn and celesta resemble the sound of an electric organ. In counterpoint, parallel voices are prohibited because they violate the homogeneity of musical texture when independent voices occasionally disappear turning into a new timbre quality and vice versa."
Actual 2004 concert (YT uploader listed wrong date...Proof: those songs weren't written & recorded before early 2000's)
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Oh yeah, the kids don't know these obscure old bands like Weezer, Cake, and The Beatles.
You can walk into any Target and buy their t-shirts still to this day. Those damn youths and their hippy hop not appreciating the classics.
Look at all these cloths and products:
Beatles : Target
You can walk into any Target and buy their t-shirts still to this day. Those damn youths and their hippy hop not appreciating the classics.
Look at all these cloths and products:
Beatles : Target
Ghost of Ethan Hunt
The Official Ghost of Space Ghosts Monkey
Oh yeah, the kids don't know these obscure old bands like Weezer, Cake, and The Beatles.
You can walk into any Target and buy their t-shirts still to this day. Those damn youths and their hippy hop not appreciating the classics.
Look at all these cloths and products:
Beatles : Target
"Target"? So overpriced. Online for better price/selection. SMB's/Local Mom & Pop shops to support the Back Bone of Our Communities.
Bench, how can you assume that others know about Cake & Weezer (or have your same music awareness)? . I've met people ~my age that can't name even 2 Rolling Stones songs....2022 will be their 60th Anniv., SIXTY!!
Whenever I see someone with a (music) Retro T or hoodie etc., I often strike up a convo regardless of their age. Many of the < ~40yo's may rock a T on occasion, but barely know the music, if at all. i.e., I've asked what their favorite album/CD was (by that band) & the vast majority of the time they can't even name 1 album & the majority of the time, not even 1 song. So I do my part to point them in the right direction.
Nobody in this thread should take offense to someone trying to Share their music knowledge with another generation, who by default, didn't have the same exposure to it & are very likely not well versed in it at all...which is very understandable..
That'd be like someone trying to share Rap/Hippety-Hop/r&b/Thrash Metal/Folk Music with someone who doesn't listen to that stuff, nor had much, if any exposure to it then getting annoyed/triggered.
The whole point of Sharing info/music is to pass knowledge onto others. It's not a competition b/w musical tastes & generations. (Even if the 60-80 Golden Era would easily dominate in a hypothetical legit vote across people ages 18-100, with an equal amount of people from each age group). This assumes the hypothetical music poll results weren't tampered with/rigged to fit anyone's agenda/narrative, i.e. a record label wanting to sell more of their records/streaming services to the masses who are easily influenced folks of all ages/demographics that don't have the aforementioned depth of knowledge/exposure.
An 80, 90, 100 yr. old man/woman has had a lot more exposure, by default, than folks in this thread. They've seen Jimi Hendrix when he played live on a street corner in NYC for instance, or at Woodstock '69. They've seen the Rolling Stones on the back of a flat-bed truck do an impromptu jam in the streets of NYC during mid-day traffic to launch their '75 tour. I look up to those people for the memories they hold & the knowledge they pass onto others.
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