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tough crowd....
You guys must be pretty young, because he was the best coach I've seen in my lifetime outside of Keenan.
To say you miss him about as much as D'Antoni leads me to believe you don't know who Ron Smith, Ron Low, John Muckler, or Bryan Trottier are.
You guys must be pretty young, because he was the best coach I've seen in my lifetime outside of Keenan.
To say you miss him about as much as D'Antoni leads me to believe you don't know who Ron Smith, Ron Low, John Muckler, or Bryan Trottier are.
JayMan82
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One of my Ranger fan buddies Emailed me this article about AV. Good recent read from a Canuck follower's perspective (sorry if this was posted already):
http://canucksarmy.com/2013/3/11/the-pros-and-cons-of-alain-vigneault
http://canucksarmy.com/2013/3/11/the-pros-and-cons-of-alain-vigneault
Pierre McGuire is anything but a moron. First look at his resume:
Assistant GM
Head coach
Assistant coach
Head scout
Those are some of the positions he's held in the NHL. He's a very intelligent hockey mind, an x's and o's kind of guy. He's a legitimate judge of talent. He travels watching hockey at every level. He's an ambassador of the game. And he's a local guy, from Englewood, NJ. All that said, extremely unlikely that he's a candidate, but I'd like it if he were.
Still my favorites are Guy Boucher, Dallas Eakins, and Pierre.
Boucher had a bit of bad luck and took the rap for a poorly constructed team in Tampa. He had no goltender and the team was just not good. He had to employ a defensive system but coached his team to a Conference Final. He's much more tactical than Tortorella. He may be able to get more out of this core.
Eakins is very intriguing. He's coached the Marlies to the top of the Western Conference in the AHL two years running now. And in the process while losing a bunch of players to the Maple Leafs.
Both may have something of a chip on their shoulder. Boucher for maybe being wrongly ousted in Tampa. And Eakins for being passed over for the gig in Toronto.
I like that. I want a young, hungry, motivated coach. Not yet corrupted by the fraternity, exclusives-only club of re-treading NHL coaches.
Assistant GM
Head coach
Assistant coach
Head scout
Those are some of the positions he's held in the NHL. He's a very intelligent hockey mind, an x's and o's kind of guy. He's a legitimate judge of talent. He travels watching hockey at every level. He's an ambassador of the game. And he's a local guy, from Englewood, NJ. All that said, extremely unlikely that he's a candidate, but I'd like it if he were.
Still my favorites are Guy Boucher, Dallas Eakins, and Pierre.
Boucher had a bit of bad luck and took the rap for a poorly constructed team in Tampa. He had no goltender and the team was just not good. He had to employ a defensive system but coached his team to a Conference Final. He's much more tactical than Tortorella. He may be able to get more out of this core.
Eakins is very intriguing. He's coached the Marlies to the top of the Western Conference in the AHL two years running now. And in the process while losing a bunch of players to the Maple Leafs.
Both may have something of a chip on their shoulder. Boucher for maybe being wrongly ousted in Tampa. And Eakins for being passed over for the gig in Toronto.
I like that. I want a young, hungry, motivated coach. Not yet corrupted by the fraternity, exclusives-only club of re-treading NHL coaches.
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Colin Campbell was a better coach and Renney was just as good, although much different.
Also, it's not about Tortorella. I'm a fan of the New York Rangers. Tortorella is no longer a member of the New York Rangers.
RangerBlues
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JD wanted a larger role with the franchise years ago. They did not take him seriously.
PlamsUnlimited
Big Church Bells
Good read. Seems like the cons are almost the same as Torts', with the tacticality stubbornness and prospect/new player treatment. But we don't know everything. I'm inclined to want him because of the creativity he provides.
I'm warming to the Boucher idea. His problem was his atrocious goalies. When Dwayne Roloson had his one good year, they made it within a game of the SCF. We have the best goalie on Earth.
Eakins seems to be the sexy pick, and I'm warming to him, also.
Pierre is interesting...the guy knows his hockey, but I don't see him coming here.
AV I'm thumbs down on, but not as far down as Ruff, Maurice (gross), and others.
Problematique
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dude I'm totally with you, but I think you should appreciate the fact that he took us to the freakin' ECF when we hadn't sniffed that kind of season since I lost my virginity.
The 11-12 season was absolutely awesome on so many levels. It was a ride and feeling that I haven't felt since '94. You can't discount that.
Obviously my allegiance is with the team. I just hope the next coach makes us better.
The reverse psychology worked!Just realized the line underneath my username is even better now
Tawnos
A guy with a bass
Oh, I totally appreciate it. The Rangers playoff drought started the year I got into high school, so I was pretty young too when the Rangers got that far. And, until this year, I was one of his biggest supporters on this board.
I just move on quickly and am much more interested in the future than the past.
The Gloaming
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Dallas Eakins and Guy Boucher are probably my top 2 picks. Larry Robinson is interesting, although his one stint after the Lockout didn't go too well, so I'd be weary of that.
Then why do no coaches win it all more often and why do coaches get recycled through the league? Coaches in hockey mean more than in baseball. Managers in baseball mean 0% to their team. At least in hockey coaches matter a little.
How about Joe Sacco? He's available and a member of the Italian Hockey Mafia, but then again, so was JT.
I think guy boucher would be a great fit. the fact that he has a sports psychology major from his college days I think would be a great fit. I can only imagine what the confidence of someone like krieder is like after torts. Also alot of players seemed to take a step backwards this year. I could see a presence like his really being a huge boon to some of the younger players development.
Also I believe he uses an offensive scheme. I know tampa had alot of offensive firepower and a god awful defense. It would be interesting to see his offensive system would do for this team considering that just about all 6 d starting next year could have pushed to be in his top 2 at points
"Guy Boucher:
A former coach of the Tampa Bay Lightning (like Tortorella), Boucher is young, energetic and is probably curious about what he can do with a world-class goalie playing behind his unique systems, including a 1-3-1 forecheck.
Boucher couldn't get the Lightning going after taking them to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2011. They had bad goaltending and a subpar defense that couldn't make up for the amount of offense Steven Stamkos and Martin St. Louis create. He was fired with roughly one month left in the 2012-13 regular season.
Lundqvist would likely be able to make his systems look good again. When the Lighting got solid goaltending from Dwayne Roloson in 2010-11, they scored 2.94 goals per game and had a power play that was better than 20 percent. The Rangers never had offensive numbers like that under Tortorella.
Rangers center Derick Brassard played under Boucher in the QMJHL."
-taken from article on nhl.com-
the articles lines up with my belief about the systems and how the rangers could benefit. I think the sports psychology background is being overlooked, especially since I believe he was the first/only coach with such a background.
Also I believe he uses an offensive scheme. I know tampa had alot of offensive firepower and a god awful defense. It would be interesting to see his offensive system would do for this team considering that just about all 6 d starting next year could have pushed to be in his top 2 at points
"Guy Boucher:
A former coach of the Tampa Bay Lightning (like Tortorella), Boucher is young, energetic and is probably curious about what he can do with a world-class goalie playing behind his unique systems, including a 1-3-1 forecheck.
Boucher couldn't get the Lightning going after taking them to the Eastern Conference Finals in 2011. They had bad goaltending and a subpar defense that couldn't make up for the amount of offense Steven Stamkos and Martin St. Louis create. He was fired with roughly one month left in the 2012-13 regular season.
Lundqvist would likely be able to make his systems look good again. When the Lighting got solid goaltending from Dwayne Roloson in 2010-11, they scored 2.94 goals per game and had a power play that was better than 20 percent. The Rangers never had offensive numbers like that under Tortorella.
Rangers center Derick Brassard played under Boucher in the QMJHL."
-taken from article on nhl.com-
the articles lines up with my belief about the systems and how the rangers could benefit. I think the sports psychology background is being overlooked, especially since I believe he was the first/only coach with such a background.
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Tawnos
A guy with a bass
When every single pitch in baseball requires a decision from the manager, even if that decision is to do nothing, there is simply no way you could be right.
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