Toronto Sports Media Discussion Thread - v7 (2022 Edition)

[colchar]

Nepotism hire? Hilarious stuff. Not sure you realize the athletic was purchase by NYT and made guys like Mirtle silly rich. Jonas has been writing and covering the team nearly 20 years in a professional manner which is a lot longer than most people hang onto a coveted role.
Subway still offering $5 footlongs?

Perhaps you should read what people actually say before commenting and looking stupid.

And if you think that arrogant little dweeb Jonas works in a professional manner then you have a different definition of professional than the rest of us.

Quiznos is where it’s at.

You're a sick puppy. Seek help.

 

[GoonieFace]

I actually don't mind Andi, she's just a fan and acts like it, if you expect legitimate hockey analysis you shouldn't be going to Overdrive anyways.

Agreed, Overdrive is great, just like 3 buddies taking sports and making ridiculous comments.

 

[The Podium]

I actually don't mind Andi, she's just a fan and acts like it, if you expect legitimate hockey analysis you shouldn't be going to Overdrive anyways.

She’s absolutely the worst…

 

[TheBeastCoast]

She’s absolutely the worst…

She sounds like the posters that only show up in a GDT after we lose a game lol

 

[rielledup]

I actually don't mind Andi, she's just a fan and acts like it, if you expect legitimate hockey analysis you shouldn't be going to Overdrive anyways.

She claimed that the Leafs goalie position has been the busiest job in the league the last few years and Hayes didn't seem to disagree. Prior to this season the Leafs have been in the top 5 for fewest shots against 3 years in a row. The fact that people who are paid to talk about the Leafs still push the myth that the Leafs suck defensively is both baffling and embarrassing.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Good on her for coming public with this story. Sadly, there certainly were incidents like this happening all over, all the time, that were suppressed and never talked about. Hockey arenas and dressing rooms were havens for stuff like this. To girls and boys alike.

I like Ailish. She's a rising star in the broadcasting industry in this city.

EDIT: Connecting the dots, I assume this pertains to what Ailish speaks about:

Former GTA hockey coach sentenced to nearly five years in prison for sexual offences against 15-year-old girl

A former hockey coach convicted of historical sexual offences against a 15-year-old girl has been sentenced to nearly five years in prison.

www.cp24.com

 

[hockeywiz542]

Nick Kypreos: What the Shohei Ohtani-Blue Jays reporting mess says about life as a sports insider

The stress and tension to get the news first all came back to me in waves on Friday during the Ohtani chaos — and I don’t even cover baseball.

www.thestar.com

From a Los Angeles writer reporting Ohtani to Toronto was a “done deal” to the most-watched flight in the world that Ohtani was incorrectly confirmed to be on to a rumoured celebratory dinner reservation at a posh Toronto sushi spot, Friday was a key reflection of where the news breaking part of sports journalism sits today.

Frankly, I wouldn’t want to be a young journalist trying to make a name for myself as a news breaker these days. Clearly the job has never been tougher. And what makes it worse today is the people who want to pounce and pile on when a reporter is misled, as if it was done with malicious intent.

Once upon a time, I was that guy at Sportsnet looking for morsels of news in an effort to last longer than a cup of coffee in the broadcasting world.

I never sought out to be a hockey “insider” but was guilted into becoming one by my superiors as a necessary tool to help me and Sportsnet build credibility in proving we both belonged with the big boys at Hockey Night in Canada and TSN.

One of the earliest trades I broke first was when the Maple Leafs traded Jyrki Lumme to the Dallas Stars for Dave Manson. Both teams agreed to wait one day to announce the deal, so imagine their surprise when I reported it on Sportsnet the day before. In an effort to throw off the scent of my reporting, the Leafs made Manson take warm-ups before a game against Buffalo despite knowing he was already property of the Stars.

How would social media have treated me back then in 2001, witnessing that in real time? I had to stick to my guns on that story while the team I recently played for screamed at my new bosses: “Kypreos is full of crap.” They announced the trade the next day.

More recently, Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin sent me an email wanting a public apology for my “devastating rumour” that Shea Weber’s career was in jeopardy due to his foot injury. History is on my side there, too.

In over 20 years on the job I definitely had moments where I didn’t quite get the story straight. I once had a source text me “Ryan Suter to Detroit” so I strongly suggested in a tweet the free agent defenceman looked to have picked the Red Wings as his new home, only to find out later he signed in Minnesota.

I asked my source, “What happened? You sent me Suter to Detroit.” He said, “No I didn’t, I was asking you … ‘Suter to Detroit?’”

I told him there was no question mark at the end of the text. And that’s when I learned punctuation matters in breaking news.

I’m old enough to remember the simpler days when breaking news in Toronto solely belonged to reputable newspapers.

 

[the squared circle]

hahaha that "Suter to Detroit" part is funny

 

[Transplanted Caper]

It's funny, I do still miss the Hotstove and think the 2nd intermission segment could be way better, but with news just breaking instantly and analyzed in real time, I guess idea of a longform segment like that is obsolete in the sense no one can wait until Saturday at 9 to break something.

 

[ihadtochangethename]

I absolutely cannot stand Sammy on Real Kyper and Bourne. Someone please make him shutup and stop overtalking everyone. Apparently he was not a part of the show earlier on and i guess they added a third person to compete with the symmetry of Overdrive.

Who's the guy related to? He's so unlikeable. It's obvious Kyper cant stand him too lol

 

[MK78]

I absolutely cannot stand Sammy on Real Kyper and Bourne. Someone please make him shutup and stop overtalking everyone. Apparently he was not a part of the show earlier on and i guess they added a third person to compete with the symmetry of Overdrive.

Who's the guy related to? He's so unlikeable. It's obvious Kyper cant stand him too lol

He was a part of it, just not visually. he would talk from behind the glass as producer, before the show was on TV. it's the same format as tim and friends had, with that guy that sat in the corner. sammy sits in teh same corner. But I agree, he is getting a little too disruptive and childish lately...

its fine when bunkis and him do it on the leafs post game leaf talk on youtube/podcast, but come on bud not on tv.

 

[LeafChief]

Jonas Siegel doing his very best to add his name to the ranks of Steve Simmons and Dave Feschuk. Blowhards who are hated by their wives.

 

[Evilhomer]

I absolutely cannot stand Sammy on Real Kyper and Bourne. Someone please make him shutup and stop overtalking everyone. Apparently he was not a part of the show earlier on and i guess they added a third person to compete with the symmetry of Overdrive.

Who's the guy related to? He's so unlikeable. It's obvious Kyper cant stand him too lol

He is also a horrendously uninformed homer. Bourne is a homer, but at least can be objective at times. Kypreos I actually quite like. He tends to be right more often than he is wrong. The third guy, however, is terrible.

 

[Apex Predator]

Jonas Siegel doing his very best to add his name to the ranks of Steve Simmons and Dave Feschuk. Blowhards who are hated by their wives.

What did Siegel say?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Hour 2 of Overdrive today was hilarious. Epic entrance by O lol

Also, this is a hard no guy for me.

 

[Sypher04]

He is also a horrendously uninformed homer. Bourne is a homer, but at least can be objective at times. Kypreos I actually quite like. He tends to be right more often than he is wrong. The third guy, however, is terrible.

Bourne is insufferable. And Kypreos a blowhard idiot. No idea what 590 is doing giving them a show. It’s awful.

 

[wingman75]

Bourne is insufferable. And Kypreos a blowhard idiot. No idea what 590 is doing giving them a show. It’s awful.

It's just hockey, and mainly Leafs, banter. I like their show. I like Sammy too. I don't agree with all their takes, but at least they are talking about something that is interesting to me.

I listen to the pod when I go to bed on non-game days, so I may or may not hear the whole show but I do find it entertaining.

I seem to be one of the few who enjoy The Leaf Report as well. Sure, they are Dubas blowhards, but I like to take in all perspectives, not just the ones that confirm my biases.

 

[Judas Tavares]

I find it interesting that Kyper is back with his own show. Before in the Babcock era, wasn't it Hockey Central with Millard, Kypreos and Doug MacLean? Essentially the same thing there is now. And I'm not sure why Kypreos left (MacLean maybe decided to retire?). But I could have sworn it was because people were sick of the Nylander and Marner are 4th liner takes etc... So they had a big shakeup.

Now he's back with the same tone, not toward Nylander and Marner, but with the team in general. Which is fine, but makes me wonder why they didn't tolerate it before and now they do. Did they feel it was a mistake to let him go and decided he should be back? Or is it cause they narrative swung too far the other way regarding the team and they need a contrarian voice? Again not complaining about Kypreos, just curious of why the goodbye and welcome back. Maybe I've missed some details during the timeframe.

 

[Nineteen67]

Hour 2 of Overdrive today was hilarious. Epic entrance by O lol

Also, this is a hard no guy for me.

Why do we need driverless vehicles?

 

[rojac]

I find it interesting that Kyper is back with his own show. Before in the Babcock era, wasn't it Hockey Central with Millard, Kypreos and Doug MacLean? Essentially the same thing there is now. And I'm not sure why Kypreos left (MacLean maybe decided to retire?). But I could have sworn it was because people were sick of the Nylander and Marner are 4th liner takes etc... So they had a big shakeup.

Now he's back with the same tone, not toward Nylander and Marner, but with the team in general. Which is fine, but makes me wonder why they didn't tolerate it before and now they do. Did they feel it was a mistake to let him go and decided he should be back? Or is it cause they narrative swung too far the other way regarding the team and they need a contrarian voice? Again not complaining about Kypreos, just curious of why the goodbye and welcome back. Maybe I've missed some details during the timeframe.

Didn't Kypreos used to have a pretty big contract when he was previously with Sportsnet? I thought he was cleared out to help bring costs down. I'm not sure any of his opinions had much to do with it. I assumed he was back because he was willing to work for less these days.

 

[wingman75]

Didn't Kypreos used to have a pretty big contract when he was previously with Sportsnet? I thought he was cleared out to help bring costs down. I'm not sure any of his opinions had much to do with it. I assumed he was back because he was willing to work for less these days.

Yes, pretty sure it was $$$ related. Rogers/SN did a lot of house cleaning a few years ago when they did a review that boondoggle of an NHL rights contract they signed.

He was back on the radio only initially, the show is now simulcast on TV just as of this year... it creates a cheap programming window (like Overdrive). He joined the Leafs regional SN broadcasts along with Bournie for this season as well, reuse, recycle, reduce. IMO, all SN panels are similarly drab.

 

[Judas Tavares]

Didn't Kypreos used to have a pretty big contract when he was previously with Sportsnet? I thought he was cleared out to help bring costs down. I'm not sure any of his opinions had much to do with it. I assumed he was back because he was willing to work for less these days.

Yes, pretty sure it was $$$ related. Rogers/SN did a lot of house cleaning a few years ago when they did a review that boondoggle of an NHL rights contract they signed.

He was back on the radio only initially, the show is now simulcast on TV just as of this year... it creates a cheap programming window (like Overdrive). He joined the Leafs regional SN broadcasts along with Bournie for this season as well, reuse, recycle, reduce. IMO, all SN panels are similarly drab.

Ah ok. This makes more sense.

 

[rojac]

Why do we need driverless vehicles?

An old friend of mine writes a blog for Forbes on driverless vehicles and used to advise Google in their endeavours in this field. His website contains some of his older essays on the subject.

His Fobes blog:

Brad Templeton

Brad Templeton's stories. Brad Templeton, who was early at Waymo, covers transportation's future

www.forbes.com

His website:

Where Robot Cars (Robocars) Can Really Take Us

 

[francis246]

It's just hockey, and mainly Leafs, banter. I like their show. I like Sammy too. I don't agree with all their takes, but at least they are talking about something that is interesting to me.

I listen to the pod when I go to bed on non-game days, so I may or may not hear the whole show but I do find it entertaining.

I seem to be one of the few who enjoy The Leaf Report as well. Sure, they are Dubas blowhards, but I like to take in all perspectives, not just the ones that confirm my biases.

I’m starting to listen to Kipper and Bourne more and more. Never thought I’d be pulled from overdrive, but I don’t love Golf and they love it too much