Post-Game Talk: Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Rangers - February 1

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NYR

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Shattenkirk played behind Pietrangelo and Parayko in STL. Either one of those would be our #1. And he only played behind Parayko after he was on the market. As for DC, he was a deadline pickup. New to the system, and not to re-sign…that speaks volumes for how he was utilized.

OK so you just admitted he was a 3rd pairing D on both teams.
So without playing the blame game on other professional coaches/ORG's please explain to me how exactly he's a 1st pairing D on this team?
 

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Shattenkirk played behind Pietrangelo and Parayko in STL.
Actually he didn't even.

He and Parayko got almost identical ice time.

And he was 4th in ice time among Caps D in the 16-17 playoffs.

Literally never third pair. People just make shit up. This is why analytics exist.
 
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You guys can argue until tomorrow morning and it won't ever change the fact that the 3 above mentioned players will never live up to the corsi stat hype.
With that, I will say gnite and you should really try my onion soup recipe ;)
Ciao!
 

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OK so you just admitted he was a 3rd pairing D on both teams.
So without playing the blame game on other professional coaches/ORG's please explain to me how exactly he's a 1st pairing D on this team?
Because we don't have Parayko or Pietrangelo? Who would also be #1s on just about any team in the league. Also, he's not a rental for us. Not joining us three quarters through a season.
 
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Actually he didn't even.

He and Parayko got almost identical ice time.

And he was 4th in ice time among Caps D in the 16-17 playoffs.

Literally never third pair. People just make **** up. This is why analytics exist.
I mean, wouldn't have been surprised. I'd play Parayko over Shattenkirk, but that has more to do with the former than the latter. Incredibly deep team on RHD at that time.
 

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AV said they took Buch out after the hit to the jaw..wonder if by they he means concussion protocol?
 

ReggieDunlop68

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Actually he didn't even.

He and Parayko got almost identical ice time.

And he was 4th in ice time among Caps D in the 16-17 playoffs.

Literally never third pair. People just make **** up. This is why analytics exist.

So...somewhere between the tail end of the 2nd pair and top of the 3rd?

This is why people need to develop numerical sense.

Also, his coach in Washington didn't seem to happy about him either.

Note: I like Shattenkirk. I still like the signings, but it's funny how the analytics re-wright a very obvious analysis that he's an elite fourth forward.

Same goes for all the other fairy tales.
 

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So...somewhere between the tail en of the 2nd pair and top of the 3rd?

This is why people need to develop numerical sense.

Also, his coach in Washington didn't seem to happy about him either.

Note: I like Shattenkirk. I still like the signings, but it's funny how the analytics re-wright a very obvious analysis that he's an elite fourth forward.

Same goes for all the other fairy tales.

In seven years on this site, this is the biggest stretch I have ever read. Congrats.
 

Machinehead

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You just said it.

"And he was 4th in ice time among Caps D in the 16-17 playoffs."

Ok so that's somewhere between 3-5.

*Irrefutable proof is posted that Shattenkirk played second pair minutes*

"BUT THAT'S LIKE ALMOST THIRD PAIR MINUTES!!!!!!!"

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ReggieDunlop68

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So...somewhere between the tail end of the 2nd pair and top of the 3rd?

This is why people need to develop numerical sense.

Also, his coach in Washington didn't seem to happy about him either.

Note: I like Shattenkirk. I still like the signings, but it's funny how the analytics re-wright a very obvious analysis that he's an elite fourth forward.

Same goes for all the other fairy tales.

…… so second pairing. Not third.

How f***ing intentionally dense are you kids?

These quotes are on the same f***ing page of a 5 page thread.

For people so into analysis, you barely want to read shit.

You just want to vent. That's all.
 

Avery16

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How ****ing intentionally dense are you kids?

These quotes are on the same ****ing page of a 5 page thread.

For people so into analysis, you barely want to read ****.

You just want to vent. That's all.
…at least we can count to four? And divide by two? I mean, if thats analysis, then Im Albert Einstein.
 

ReggieDunlop68

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*Irrefutable proof is posted that Shattenkirk played second pair minutes*

"BUT THAT'S LIKE ALMOST THIRD PAIR MINUTES!!!!!!!"

Y6K75M.gif

How is that a stretch. That means he's playing in the 3rd to 5th position averaging 4th with his PP time, so he was playing closer to the bottom of the 2nd pair top of the third pair based on YOUR cited numbers.

It's not even remotely a stretch.
 

Machinehead

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Buchnevich wears #89, so basically he wears #90.

Edmonton got a point in their loss tonight, which is in between 0 and 2 points, so Edmonton won.

I have 4 lemons, so I have 5 lemons.

Numerical sense.

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