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Toronto Maple Leafs - 2022 Entry Draft - 2nd Rd Pick (38th OA) - Fraser Minten (C)

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Get over it. It’s a board that was started to discuss and follow prospects. Yeah big shock people will get excited about guys their team drafted in a place like that.

Go to any teams board just after the draft and their fans will be excited about some draftee that some think is a massive steal.

People complaining about guys getting excited for prospects is more annoying than the guys that do get hyped for them.
 
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I'm a bit psychic and I just had a flash of this kid with an A on his white Leafs jersey skating with the cup over his head. Sleeve number was too rumpled and then it was gone. Not joking. About a month ago I jumped up as my kid released a ball the got lined back and hit him in the ass...he was fine but the other parents were freaked out. :) Pretty good vibes about XRP too...
 
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DarkKnight said:
I’m just saying, the fan base negativity is justified, if not always logical. You’re right of course.
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"The fanbase negativity" doesn't make any sense. Each season is a fresh start, and each new prospect is not in any way impacted by the failures of past groups.

To infect every new thread with it because the team made you sad 6 months ago is just kind of pathetic, to be honest. Relevant in the many, many Dubas threads but stop spreading that to every other conversation the fanbase has. Minten has nothing to do with SDA's stagnation or the Leafs losing to Tampa in 7.
 
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MuadDib said:
"The fanbase negativity" doesn't make any sense. Each season is a fresh start, and each new prospect is not in any way impacted by the failures of past groups.

To infect every new thread with it because the team made you sad 6 months ago is just kind of pathetic, to be honest. Relevant in the many, many Dubas threads but stop spreading that to every other conversation the fanbase has.
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Sure I’ll be cheering them on every game, but the scars don’t go away, particularly basically the same presentation . That doesn’t make sense either.
 
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Posts like this remind me that some folks will NEVER miss an opportunity to complain and be miserable.
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There are similar reminders everywhere on HF.

It's like spring in the backyard when you didn't scoop all winter. 'Reminders' EVERYWHERE!!!
 
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What does our playoff performance have to do with a prospect selected a few months ago?
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Funny you should say that, but in this case there is a clear and obvious connection here ..

1) Leafs lose in round #1 again.
2) Leafs decide to move on from Jack Campbell, looking for a new goalie that they believe can change that outcome.
3) Leafs decide that Matt Murray is their next guy, and look to add him via trade, but they lack the salary cap room even with retention to do so.
4) Leafs trade goalie Petr Mrazek a failed UFA signing to Chicago with their 1st round pick (25th OA) for a Chicago 2nd rounder (#38th overall) to create cap space.
5) With the #38 pick in the 2022 draft the Leafs select Fraser Minten.

Fraser Minten is the direct fallout, from another Leafs disappointing failed playoffs a few months ago forcing change,compounded by a poor USA signing Mrazek and erasing another GM mistake.

Leaf Fans that follow the entry draft closely, see a young offensive stud like forward Jiří Kulich of Czechia gets drafted by Buffalo at #28 a few spots after Leafs original pick.. Kulich goes on to be a stud at the recent WJC posting 7 games 2-6-8 points, including scoring 1 goal and 2 assists named star of the game as his vast underdog team upsets the highly favouored USA team in the quarterfinals and sends Matt Knies and his teammates packing from the tourney.

So when Leaf fans ask what does Leafs playoff failure (lost in round #1) or bad UFA signings (Mrazek) costing them their 1st & a mere 13 draft spots, or how mockingly did Minton do in the WJC (he didn't play), while other players drafted between Leafs original 1st excelled in the tournament, its all connected ,and all roads lead back to the Leafs GM. :wg:
 
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Funny you should say that, but in this case there is a clear and obvious connection here ..

1) Leafs lose in round #1 again.
2) Leafs decide to move on from Jack Campbell, looking for a new goalie that they believe can change that outcome.
3) Leafs decide that Matt Murray is their next guy, and look to add him via trade, but they lack the salary cap room even with retention to do so.
4) Leafs trade goalie Petr Mrazek a failed UFA signing to Chicago with their 1st round pick (25th OA) for a Chicago 2nd rounder (#38th overall) to create cap space.
5) With the #38 pick in the 2022 draft the Leafs select Fraser Minton.

Fraser Minton is the direct fallout, from another Leafs disappointing failed playoffs a few months ago forcing change,compounded by a poor USA signing Mrazek and erasing another GM mistake.

Leaf Fans that follow the entry draft closely, see a young offensive stud like forward Jiří Kulich of Czechia gets drafted by Buffalo at #28 a few spots after Leafs original pick.. Kulich goes on to be a stud at the recent WJC posting 7 games 2-6-8 points, including scoring 1 goal and 2 assists named star of the game as his vast underdog team upsets the highly favouored USA team in the quarterfinals and sends Matt Knies and his teammates packing from the tourney.

So when Leaf fans ask what does Leafs playoff failure (lost in round #1) or bad UFA signings (Mrazek) costing them their 1st & a mere 13 draft spots, or how mockingly did Minton do in the WJC (he didn't play), while other players drafted between Leafs original 1st excelled in the tournament, its all connected ,and all roads lead back to the Leafs GM. :wg:
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A big leap. What players between 25 and 38 played in the tournament? You mentioned Kulich.
 
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A big leap. What players between 25 and 38 played in the tournament? You mentioned Kulich.
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Dumping of the Mrazek contract and the drafting of Fraser Minten will be forever linked because the Leafs used the pick they obtained in this trade to draft him.

All the players drafted between #25 and #38 will always be opportunity lost by Toronto to undo a UFA signing mistake and self inflicted wound by the Leafs GM, of taking a better and/or higher ranked player so a guy like Kulich is just one of those 13 players. Brad Lambert drafted 30th playing for Finland with Leafs prospects Roni Hirvonen and Topi Niemelä in the gold medal game.

Time will tell how many of those players including dman Sam Rinzel who was selected with Leafs original pick in the 1st round will do in comparison to Minten in the NHL and years to come.
 
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